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6130  the "3 3 2" rhythm (1)
Aren't most of of Piazzolla's compositions in this "3 3 2" rhythm? BA-da-da-BA-da-da-BA-da BA-da-da-BA-da-da-BA-da etc. --Ira Ithaca, NY

5582  3,3,3 Dance from the Pivot (1)
3,3,3 ? Dance from the Pivot How do I get away from patterns long patterns? How do I give my patterns more life? How do I improve the feel in my dance? How do I play with musicality? The answer to all...

6044  3. Eduardo Saucedo (Mario) (1)
Mario, Thanks for looking. The really cool thing is that they're improvising. Performing without a net! I agree, what's not to like? They have TaiChiDancers seal of approval too!

6079  30 second chit-chat an Argentine custom (2)
Most people go to the milonga to dance, to immerse themselves in the world of the milonga. Every code has a reason to exist. The 30 seconds between tangos are used as described by Ilene and Nancy...

6078  30 seconds of chit-chat an Argentine custom (3)
It was said: "What I've read about the chit chat in BsAs and it's origins, was that was the only chance for a young suitor to talk to the girl with whom he was dancing with, because it would not have...

6080  30 seconds of chit chat, was labor day complaint (2)
Jack Dylan asked about the reason for the 30 seconds that seems idle "chit chat" after the music starts. Here's is one possible explanation that comes to my mind, I am sure there are others. It goes...

6077  30 seconds of chit-chat (was Labor Day (5)
Festival: a complaint) Jack wrote: "I also dislike this 30 seconds of chit-chat on the dance floor. Just what is its purpose?" I heard somewhere that in the early days of tango, the time before the...

5949  The 8-, 6-, 4-, 2-, and 1-step basics (1)
-- 8CB as a kata The problem with the 8-count basic is how it is often learned - as a unit that you dance at a party. It is more like a martial arts kata - a figure with movements that you practice...

5947  8 Count basic (2)
I have never been led in the 8 count basic on a milonga floor in Buenos Aires. Only once, 5 years ago at Lo de Celia, when one of the dancers from Forever Tango wanted to make fun of how tango is...

5568  8-count (ho-hum) basic (1)
The argument about the value of the 8-count basic step is pretty amusing and comes up perennially on the list, but I think many (especially relative beginners) are missing the point. Tango is an improvisational...

5887  Abel Bedrune (1)
Does anyone know about the composer and orchestra leader, Abel Bedrune (1904-67)? What was his music like? etc? Any recordings? cheers, Charles ************** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get...

5927  Academia and Tango (1)
..no wonder it's so freak'en difficult! ....Moving towards a new paradign in multi-task management. ...ok, that was my Tango-L sniper shot...it had some humor and very little bite not like...

5670  Advertising - NYTimes.com: Argentine Nights (2)
Man! Is it just me or is that the best picture you've ever seen for advertising tango? Damn! I wanna learn! I think communities should look into getting the rights to using it and think of a great caption...

5876  Alberto Dassieu (4)
Anytme that I can find a new video on this guy, I'm going to post it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id_IOnarj0M Lots and lots of pauses in this slooo tango..would it be ok to dance like this...

6045  albuquerque transportation (1)
I'm arriving at the albuquerque airport for the festival at 1 pm friday august 29th and would like to share a ride/taxi to the hotel if anyone is interested. Please email me off line at sarahpie@earthlink.net...

6140  Am I still subscribed? (2)
Sherwin Berger Sherwin Berger

5579  Amanda Lucero -- milonguera (1)
Part of a two-hour interview with Amanda Lucero on November 7, 2002: There are good ones and bad ones in every profession in the world. There are many tango teachers, but very few milongueros. There...

5803  An innovative Milonga (5)
The Milonga is my favorite song - dance. I watch videos of them as often as possible. Since, I also dance it well (haven't yet, seen anyone dance a better Milonga in person) I'm claiming non-newbie... > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wcKFnUI-YU&feature=related

6059  an interesting video (4)
What makes this clip very interesting for you, "m i l e s?" ' Dubravko asks. It must be the girl's legs, if you fix your eyes in hyer shoes you enter "Tango ozone". Sergio Get thousands of games on your...

5848  another origin of the Milonga - Brasil (2)
This is my translation of a section from an article by Juan Carlos Caceres. Source:Nana Garc?a Santa Cruz de Tenerife http://www.diariodeavisos.com/diariodeavisos/content/290430/ Diluted Origens With...

5590  Any Chrom players on the list? (3)
I am like a small kid on christmas morning! My brand new Suzuki SCX-64 Chromatic Harmonica arrived today and this evening will be the inaugural breath of the beginning of my journey into playing and...

5965  Apilado, Practica X , Generation Y and Mario (2)
I guess we all have to answer the question of 'why I dance' for ourselves. My thing is the connection, the music and yes, having a beautiful chick hanging onto my neck. OK..so, maybe the Universe...

82  Archives for Tango-L (13)
Hi. I have recently subscribed to Tango-L, and enjoy the many messages I have already received. Thank you! I run a Ballroom studio in Hobart, Tasmania (Australia), and have taught a sort of Argentine... Add to Address Book

2166  Tango-L Archives (8)
OK, good. How do we access 2002? ... and other tango-l archives?

5720  Are they having as much fun dancing this as I am (4)
watching???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KJN1UKfMgI O.K. this is my last post of the day...but once again Javier Rodriguez & Andrea Miss? ....is this improvised? Will they dance it...

5818  Are they really Tango Gods?.. or could it be me? (7)
"I know many women who have found that special feeling in tango when dancing in the milongas with Argentine men. It?s a feeling of security and being protected while losing oneself in the music. We...

5627  Argentine Tango Dancer Census (11)
My favorite subject! A buddy and I (will mostly "I") used to talk about this a lot. If you narrow the search to people who are passionate about it, perhaps obsessed by it, dance (or take classes) every...

5993  The Argentine Tango society (2)
Huck, here you have the press release of that event. http://express-press-release.net/41/I%20TANGO%20-%20Argentine%20T
ango%20Performance.php
The local Argentine Tango Society organized the event...

6086  That arm thing (1)
Hi all, Trini, here. Since no woman has yet responded on this subject, I'll give my two cents worth. Personally, I dislike having my arm being bounced up and down in milongas or tango. It's tiring,...

5834  arrastre (musical) (5)
Well... this is fantastic. The "arrastre test" seems like kind of an idiosyncratic prerequisite for being a tango teacher, but I am glad to learn about different ways that people use the word arrastre,...

5932  Article on Camicando 2008 (1)
"Paradiso" website in Toronto has just published my report on the 2008 CaMiCando (Canyengue, Milonga and Candombe) Festival in Buenos Aires: http://torontoargentinetango.blogspot.com/ The festival...

5883  Article on TangoZen in Pagina/12 in BA, Sunday, May (1)
11th Friends, A little more than a month has passed since I moved to Buenos Aires. As you can imagine, Buenos Aires is quite a dynamic city, where many things, especially totally unexpected, can happen....

4040  Astrid-married in the milonga (3)
It is their pareja. (A pareja is the person they are involved with whether it be a wife or girlfriend.) As I wrote previous, it would not matter if it were the milonga or on the street. You don't approach...

5634  AT Dancer Census (1)
D. David Thorn wrote: "So how do we do this?" IMHO, the?way for any dancer to improve their community is to strive to be the best dancer that they can be. The journey is different for each person. Support...

5692  ..at last, a slow tango that I can understand ! (3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErmwG5IIe6k Flako Danny Garcia and Maria (la unica) doing a slow tango that makes sense! No boleos, no bariras, no ganchos, no stepping over anything, no dragging

5816  At one with the earth.. (2)
Two by Alberto Dassieu ..the Vals was posted before but this is better quality video. I just love the way this guy dances! Someone pointed out his 'soft knees' and I just love the way he seems...

6110  AT in Puerto Rico ? (1)
Puerto Rican friends in New York City have become tangueros. They are going back to Puerto Rico for several months and would like to find Argentine Tango venues for classes, pr?cticas, and milongas.

5738  Atlanta Saturday Evening (1)
Hi, A few more images for you folks that want to be here.... http://www.flickr.com/photos/tangobliss/sets/72157604414061375/ Miles. PS: Video of Atlanta will be posted shortly on YouTube.

5740  Atlanta Tango Festival Video (12)
Hi, Here's the end result of *MY* Atlanta Tango Festival experience... There's something in there for everyone, I think. http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p6E01128CEEB12E Miles. > http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p6E01128CEEB12E

5737  Atlanta Tango Festival (1) (1)
Hi, Here's today's images from the 2008 Atlanta Tango Festival. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tangobliss/sets/72157604402010422/ More to come and videos up on YouTube soon. Miles.

6061  August-Authentic Argentine Tango Series (1)
> www.tangoacademypasadena.com

5726  That awfully insulting metaphor (9)
Floyd Baker wrote: Actually, there are quite a few violin maestros who get very annoyed by the Stradivarius legend. In truth, there are violins being made today that are just as good as a Strad, and...

5687  Bad Dog (2)
I received many private replies to my post about "Invisibility". Thanks, everyone, who took the time to write. You had some worthwhile feedback about why men might avoid a woman that they had danced...

5612  bad Nuevo and the future (2)
biomechanic possibilities. Sorry, but salon tango or any other tango has also been motivated by biomechanic possibilities. I don't think that the music inspired any guy to say "Gee, I really feel like

5608  bad nuevo tango (14)
David Thorn wrote in reply to Chris: <<? But it is entirely another thing to state baldly that Nuevo is per se bad dancing.? Don't you think that the ground rules of the milonga, the floor conditions,...

5610  bad, wrong, Nuevo (26)
Hi List, Heather, Nina: So...the real tango music popped out of an egg in some perfect final form...and was accompanied by the birth of the real tango dance in some perfect final form; no evolution,...

4893  Bahia Blanca (5)
Hi, Does anyone know of a resource ONLINE that sells the Di Sarli's Bahia Blanca. Specifically I'm looking for a downloadable version (preferably legal thank you very much) similar to that of what's...

5581  ?Bailonga! Nuevo Tango (1)
You may already be aware of this but I thought I would post it. "The stream is organized into a three hour virtual milonga, with a heavy emphasis on Nuevo and Alternative Tango music." http://www.demetriusgonzalez.com/tango/bailonga.html

6105  The balancing act (1)
Some of the recent discussion has in some ways suggested that men ought to pander to women. Puh-lease... I?m going on record of saying that it is okay for men to be "demanding" of women in the same...

5856  Ballroom steps in tango (8)
I looked at Mario's link to youtube of Sylvania dancing milonga with another woman. At about the 55 seconds mark, I saw a particularly good combination. She stepped foward on her left, side right, close...

42  Ballroom tango (31)
I went to see a friend of mine compete in a ballroom event. During the event there was also a demonstration of Argentine tango. I've seen some other presentations of Argentine tango choreographed by...

5633  Ballroom vs Tango: Cross feet (7)
Carol wrote: you're right, I don't know of any ballroom dance that has that. ballroom doesn't allow cross-foot dancing (can someone with ballroom experience verify that?); Using Carol's definition of...

2109  The Basic (31)
Hola Oleh, Thank you for your posting. I totally agree with the "2 count basic" concept. Walking, the essence of tango, is the basic step. Every dancer I know of in 11 years experience who has been... Raul Bravo is now in his 70s, I think, strong as an ox and still teaching exactly the...

5830  Beautifuller and Beautifuller (1)
OMG, How did I miss this one????? Go ahead and laugh but I actually cried while watching this play thru. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP6CtHLZ9p8

5574  Tango-L Beginners & Teachers (2)
IMO, if, over time, a beginner doesn't develop a love and feel for classic argentine tango music and in addition can't find the beat, no matter how many months of classes he/she attends or how many...

5569  Beginners and milongas (25)
After such a response to my "breaking the paso basico" post I wanted to ask something else. Simply; are beginner dancers not actually welcome at Milongas? Is there some unspoken rule that a beginner...

5578  beginners |musica? (2)
i am writing in response to: i have never been a fan of the old time tangos despite my favorite being 'poema'. the cranky twangy music has never moved me, nor the big orchestras. i am a fan of pugliese...

5991  belated apology to the list (1)
Some time ago I transgressed. I received an email from the moderator requiring me to apologize to the list, and not transgress again. I said I would not post on the list again until I did so. I am...

6101  Best time to visit Buenos Aires (3)
I've decided to spend a month (or I hope two) in Buenos Aires. When is the best time of year to go? Just judging from weather.com it seems that mid-summer, January and February, is the worst time,...

5648  The Best in Today's Blogs (2)
This dude is posting some goooooood Tango lore the past several days.. it's his last week in BsAs and he is making the best of it. http://nyctango.blogspot.com/ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo...

5759  Bibi Wong, Surplus Tanguera Myth (5)
Bibi wrote: " not aware of a tango community that tangueros out-number tangueras. Educate me if I am wrong." I am beginning to suspect this oft repeated refrain is a female ruse to keep other women... I was delighted to be educated by a few good people from Tango-L on the places...

6060  bitter sweet experience (1)
I just came back from a workshop in the Midwest. The instructors line up was very good; the themes for the workshop were all very useful and carefully put together; the hosts were incredibly hospitable...

5810  body, hand leads (3)
Why should the lady 'ignore' the man's weight changes or, more importantly, how should she know when to ignore them and when to follow them? I've always believed that the man should change weight...

5811  body leads (1)
Hi larry, long time not seeing you here :-) Are you still wearing your cream color jacket? Larry wrote: It is said that the woman owns the rhythm and the man owns the changing of it - as well changing...

5736  Bogus Tango Internet Store? (2)
The Tango Shop (www.thetangoshop.com)... I placed an order for 3 DVDs last Nov 15. Despite repeated requests for progress information, I am still awaiting a single response. I'm thinking they are...

6025  Boleos - back and front (5)
Many people think boleo is a kick of the leg, when in fact the kick is a decoration of the boleo. The basic boleo is (usually) a spiral at the waist, that results in the supporting leg pivoting...

5560  Breaking the 'paso basico.' (53)
Mash, To break a habit is not difficult - just stop doing it and stop whining. Problem solved. There's nothing wrong with the 8-step basic. But if you've been doing it over and over until it became...

5558  Breaking the "paso basico." (12)
I am getting frustrated with myself at the moment as I have discovered my first nasty Tango habit. I have found that when I am nervous my mind blanks itself of any variation in steps and defaults...

5603  Bridge to the Tango (4)
I'd like to hear from someone who has experience with the "Bridge to the Tango" CDs/DVDs.? What are the five tapes you would recommend most for an intermediate/advanced dancer? And, what are the five...

5998  The Brothers Macana (2)
Macana is lunfardo for those of you who do not speak it means: lie, mistake, error. Sooooo for those of you trying to bolster your argument of gender bender dancing using the Brothers Macana, now...

5630  BsAs glow (1)
On the BA glow subject. I've been fortunate to have had a pre-production or more accurately, a draft preview of a new Tango film soon to be released, by Carla Thackrah. It's preview title is "The Tango...

5946  Buenos Aires-Performance-Eduardo Saucedo and Marisa (2)
Quiroga-Confiteria Ideal Come and see them off before they leave for North America, Performance - Wednesday, June 18th EDUARDO SAUCEDO and MARISA QUIROGA their dancing is artful and elegant, innovative...

5586  Buenos Aires tango magazine DIOSTANGO on the web (1)
Diostango is available to read at www.diostango.com.ar with articles, photos, and guide to the milongas.

3474  Buffalo Tango (5)
Hello from a Tango Wasteland... Or maybe we can say it used to be that way? :-/ Last night we held our first Milonga. Complete with wine, pop, cheese & crackers, chips, etc. Several people showed...

5704  On Buffalo (1)
Since there have been some comments about the Buffalo tango scene, I thought I'd offer my perspective as an outside observer. I just got back from teaching there and met quite a few of the tango community....

5802  Buffalo's Ladies Only lesson report. (14)
Our 'Ladies Only' lesson last Friday went very well. Six followers came and one brought a partner. Experience ranged from zero to two having a lot of tango wear on their soles already. But experience

5854  Building communities (1)
We here in Portland have always felt blessed to have such a congenial tango community. Even though it has now grown so much that we do sometimes have conflicts, that is, more than one event on...

5812  Business practices (was Speak up if you are (1)
uncomfortable - policies) non-profits. Officers are often elected as a legal requirement to share a balance of power. That is how things are often done in the States. said, that phenomenon is largely...

5926  The cabeceo and its use ( Was Vol ## ???) (1)
In a few practicas, that is true and in Nino Bien on one night only. You may think you are seeing Argentines asking women at their table, but what they are doing is greeting the women they already...

1548  Cabin fever and cigarette smoke (3)
I have been in Argentina several times. I was able to make good friends at the milongas. I came alone. I am 33 years old. I danced milonguero downtown and salon style in Villa Urquiza. I sat very...

5761  Cadencia - Ney + Jennifer (1)
Here is a videoof Ney Melo dancing an example of good Cadencia This video is a favorite of a friend in Portland, Kimo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT6GFCiuvuM between 0000-00-00 and 9999-99-99...

6067  Cadencia y ritmo (3)
Cadence and rhythm in Spanish is a reference to the harmony between the sounds and the movements of the dancer. Cadencia : En danza, armonizaci?n de los sonidos y los movimientos del bailar?n: la...

5654  Calling our tango 'Argentine' tango (1)
I understand this point of view. I teach 'tango' and I sometimes get students in Tango 1 expecting ballroom tango. However, nearly everyone understands we teach the tango that is danced in Argentina....

98  Calo/Beron: Milonga Que Peina Canas (19)
Can anyone tell me of a CD that contains the Miguel Calo/Raul Beron recording of Milonga Que Peina Canas? With best regards, Steve (de Tejas) {" Can anyone tell me of a CD that contains the Miguel Calo/Raul...

5985  Capturing the dance (1)
Since we live in a time when absolutely everything ends up on youtube and we're hyper-fascinated with the outside visuals of the dance I thought it'd be nice to share this. Atleast this one comes...

5855  Cautions About Lifts (1)
In the show-tango "crime" post I described one lift (the first) in almost enough detail for tango dancers to do it. I left out one detail that I may have wrongly assumed everyone would know. "Lift"...

5646  Census - Don't forget Philadelphia. (3)
Phila. and suburbs and Southern New Jersey...I'm guessing 200 Tangojunkies in this rather large geographic area. I can attend 15 Milongas/Practicas a month, conveniently, by simply using local public...

5645  Census - Don't forget Chicago... (3)
where there are maybe 200 tango dancers of assorted skills and experience and from one to 4 places to dance any night of the week and I'm guessing say at least 50 Tango junkies who go dancing more...

5978  Central Park High Heel Marathon (1)
I hope to hear that our tanguera friends in NYC were winners in the High-Heel Marathon going on in Central Park this AM. Who else could do it? We can dance for hours in high heels, why not run?...

5832  Certification vs. Qualifications (5)
People, "Teacher certification" is one of the things that teachers sell to other people who want to teach. Like any other degree or certificate (PhDs included), it only denotes that you've paid for...

5563  The Challange in Teaching Newbies [Was Breaking the (3)
'paso basico'] Tom Stermitz wrote: The challenge in teaching newcomers/beginners is in providing some semblance of success in dancing tango while providing a foundation for future learning. The 8CB...

5960  Change of direction III - The cross who invented it (1)
? Somebody asked not too long ago, who had invented the cross. is done in a straight line. (Remember that in a left turn the woman crosses front or back with her left leg and opens with her right...

5956  Changes of direction - my take. (1)
'Changes of direction' - my understanding. This is something that is led and involves both partners. You both travel in one direction then reverse the direction of travel of both partners. Usually this...

5961  Changes of direction - otra vez (2)
Oops...sorry, I forgot that I had uploaded one of videos to YouTube...of Gustavo y Giselle... The first half is caminadas...the second half is cambios de direccion... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgnjOZxVsCw

5966  Changes of direction. (1)
Yes Chris I'm you are right. The term 'change of direction' is just a term that has been applied to moves involving a change of direction (Funny that), not one particular step. The example I described...

5958  Changes of direction II (1)
Changes of direction are not easy to understand. Change of direction from a back cross: A woman starts a back ocho, (let's say that she crosses her left leg back), when the left leg of the woman is...

5955  "changes of direction" (22)
Can someone explain to me what a tango scientist means by "change of direction"? As here, for example: Level 3+ (elementary and better) means -you are confident with the basic steps (side, backwards... Chris' comments don't really seem to tell the story correctly....

5988  Chicago: October 3-5, 2008 Alex Krebs Workshops (1)
SAVE THE DATE! CHICAGO: Alex Krebs Workshops Oct 3-5, 2008 Details coming soon! Hosted by Agape & Somer www.tangoreaction.com

6009  Chris - decent Nuevo leads (2)
Here's a video of a well known Bay Area couple who dance and teach Nuevo as well as classical tango. Le gusta? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7250cB392g

5652  CITA 2003 DVD (1)
My dvd of the 2003 CITA shows is corrupted/scratched. Does anyone have one they would like to sell? They only go back to 2004 on the website. Let me know...thanks!

5785  Clarin Tango Video (1)
The world of technology, I used the email link they provide and it did not work. This one does: http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/04/15/conexiones/inicio_tango.h
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6065  Class announcements do not go here (1)
Announcements of classes, festivals, and such do not go in this forum. Use TANGO-A for that. You will get much more attention there. TANGO-L is for discussions. Save on Trade Schools - Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iigk8q9BExO082gX
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5971  Closing remarks on the Apilado, marketing thread (1)
Sergio and Chris Thank you for the genuine effort to keep the discussion coherent, civilized, and even toned. I was compelled to write the initial posting after disheartening experiences on past...

5747  Coaching the Lead (4)
Yesterday, I had my first real breakthru in Tango. I took a private class from a very advanced dancer/follow. She helped me with my posture and balance, continuously stopping and reminding me when...

1491  Codes (45)
Bibi Wong wrote: There is a very funny book by Sonia Abadi, "El bazar de los abrazos". Unfortunately, as far as I know, only in spanish and german for the moment: http://www.terapiatanguera.com.ar/Comentario%20de%20libros/el_baz
ar_de_los_abrazos.htm
developed I know other the if are some the reason

5673  Codigos from a woman's POV (1)
But how many of those social dances place the woman's body in such direct contact with the man and in how many of them do the dances last for the length of a tanda ( 10-14 minutes)? I really like that...

5906  comic pearls and golden silence (1)
"A pearl before the swine" was the name of a recent thread. I must admit I have never heard of any tango songs talking about casting pearls before the swine (and I sure do know many songs), but the...

5921  Coming to LA? (1)
If you come to LA feel free to contact me for advice about where to go dancing. But first check out a couple of useful websites. The first is mine, the second by Vladimir Estrin. Each has its advantages....

5825  Community building/ Tango in restaurants & bars (2)
Don't give up on these places yet, Charles. About a year ago I was contacted by a local Latin restaurant, a really nice, popular place, asking me to do a tango night. The night they chose was Thursday. You...

5849  community - need insight (2)
hey everyone, i need your insight. i have a regional calendar on my website to provide all the opportunities to dance in our community, it covers one and half hours of driving in any direction. ...

5750  Competition and fair play (1)
wrote: Your MySpace page indicates otherwise. You offer tango lessons there. http://www.myspace.com/luv2dancetango Also curious to know if you are a part of the group which has taken over the Turnverin....

1079  Confiteria Ideal in BsAs (4)
Confiteria Ideal has a milonga practically every day of the week, and is popular among portenos and tourists alike. It was a location for movies of Alan Parker ("Evita") and Carlos Saura ("Tango"). When we were in...

5664  the Contra Body movements on YouTube (2)
This is 28 short videos by Carlos Escuena showing the sophisticated/subtle moves of the contra body during the Lead. This is the only ones treating this subject that I've been able to find......

6115  Coolish Tango Movie... (2)
Hi, Coolish tango movie by Dan Peters in SF, starring Trio Garufa. Whom if you've never heard before I think you folks may like... Give it a listen...takes a bit to get rolling, but worth it. There's...

6024  Copa Airlines (1)
Hola! I've recently discovered a much lower cost airline that flies from the U.S. (Miami, L.A., N.Y., Orlando and D.C.) to/from Buenos Aires (via Panama City). Their fares are half (at Economy level,...

5770  Cortinas or not? (1)
"Actually, I believe the root cause is a DJ who plays music which people don't want to dance to. The cortina has nothing to do with that." Unlike most blokes in my Tango community, I prefer to only...

6133  Counting steps and beats when dancing Tango. Was: (2)
How to dance the "3 3 2" form Not really. At least for leaders, it is like learning how to create the bottle of champagne by discussing methods of growing & harvesting grapes, pressing the wine and...

6134  Counting steps or beats while dancing tango (3)
,,,"But counting can be a useful tool while learning, and I'm sure, long ago, most of the old milongueros spent at least some time counting beats and counting steps." IMO counting steps or beats is totally...

6023  Criticizing other style dancers (1)
Lois asks: "So, if that is true that only Close Embrace people criticize, why is it that Traditional tango, Nuevo, canyengue people don't criticize people who dance in close? Are they just so much...

5731  The cross -- another view (2)
Argentine Tango is a partner dance -- it's the woman's dance too. There are those on the list who insist that every follower's movement in Argentine Tango is led by the leader, including the cross.

5725  The Cross - final note (1)
Last night I went to dance to L'Alliance Francaise, here in Mar del Plata. Most of the dancers there were trained by Nicolas and Anastasia, social and stage dancers. (they have a web page, if you wish...

5730  The Cross: Much ado about nothing (1)
First, the cross, like any other tango step, should be led. Tango wouldn't be an improvised dance if women did steps without being led. Oh, yes, women do steps without leading. Like boleos. A woman...

5690  The cross, that's getting ever older (was The (1)
subject that never dies.) Charles wrote: "As Keith pointed out, the origin of the cross is another story. That came along later in tango history, maybe in the fifties, but the fundamentals of the tango...

5861  crossed footed walk on follow's left w cross + (1)
sacada I find this a very interesting video by Oscar and Maryann Casas. They are pushing the cross and the cross footed walk to the extreme. They are forcing crosses and sacadas on the follower's...

358  Cultural Influence on Styles of Tango (27)
Some have noticed a divergence between the way Argentine tango is danced in many North American cities and the way it is danced in Argentina. Some have attributed the difference to the prevalence of...

6124  Dallas Milongas? (1)
I can find a list of the Dallas milongas.? But, can anyone tell me which ones are heavily attended by the better dancers? Thanks

5707  Dance and the Brain (1)
DANCE AND THE BRAIN http://www.dana.org/news/publications/detail.aspx?id744 "A critical outcome of our research is that learning by observing leads to action resonance and prediction that is the...

5680  Dance Etiquette Update (1)
There is a dance etiquette update at: www.inscenes.com Click on the Tango bar on the left. Then click on the Etiquette link at the bottom.

5641  dance ezine (2)
Dear All, New ezine on dance now available (free). Quite a bit on Tango in there. Check out the URL in the sig file. Cheers, Tony -- www.oakebooks.com/ezines/index.php Martial Arts : Health : Dance

6113  To Dance -- or Not to Dance: That is the Question (5)
Based on a lot of messages on this topic, about only dancing with good dancers and should a lead be refused, I've combined my answer into one message. 1) I understand what Ilene wrote. I remember meeting...

5619  Dancing after accident (3)
Dear list, last week I had an accident. It happened in the early morning after a most wonderful memorable night of dancing. The next morning I almost hit a speedy car that suddenly crossed my pedestrian...

3143  Dancing with Beginners (2)
Marty Waxman said: " it's better if beginners have more experienced dancers as partners. " I feel it behooves all experienced dancers to invest back into the tango community by dancing with beginners...

5599  dancing fusion (2)
Now, since lately bellydance looks like it may become more popular than tango, and there are not enough men in our milongas anyway, this is what us girls may end up doing.... pretty hot actually. ;... Astrid, I started taking bellydancing classes about a year ago. It's a great compliment to tango since it depends on and develops core strength. And it's fun! One of my favorite dancers is Zoe Jakes.

6062  Dancing Gender in Milongas of Buenos Aires (2)
Dear Tango-L members, i would like to share with you my research paper. The drafted and re-drafted article turned into this paper that i am sure i will re-draft again and again..... so feedbacks are...

544  Dancing to the Music (11)
Some people have developed rules for dancing to the music. These rules include such things as no ganchos or mordidas with vals; no planeos with old tangos; longer, gliding steps for Pugliese; shorter,...

6091  Dancing with Oscar Mandagaron (4)
Oscar Mandagaran & Georgina Vargas have been giving workshops here in the Bay Area for the last few months. Last saturday night they performed and hosted a milonga. Georgina also sang and her...

5758  Dancing outside crossed footed on follow's left (2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH5T3POVjQY Here are Gustavo and Maria doing a beautiful tango to some beautiful music. I am noticing that whenever a performance (by many couples) contains the...

5997  Dancing socially to Piazzolla (17)
melvillefox@aol.com wrote: I'm always amused when people make definitive statements on mailing lists. They are nearly invariably incorrect. Especially in cases like this. All we need is one person...

5878  Dassieu, Dancing in the Middle, Nuevo Tango, (3)
Naveira, etc. Mario wrote: > it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id_IOnarj0M Hooboy. Mario, did you ever consider creating a blog about the videos you like? Or maybe just a playlist in youtube? That's...

5691  Deadline for Seduced by Tango??? (2)
Does anyone know what the deadline is for entries to Seduced by Tango? The website doesn't provide a clue . . .

5844  Dear keith, (1)
Hi Keith, I like your comment on the Milonga...I feel likewise about the song/dance..I'd go further and even say that anyone who cannot dance the Milonga (song), really cannot dance.. I see...

1607  A delicate matter about a dear friend (3)
Dear Alberto: While over six weeks have passed since I read your Tango L posting, "A delicate matter about a dear friend," I did want, however belatedly (with apologies), to acknowledge the heartfelt...

192  Denver Labor Day Weekend & Crowded Dance Floors (12)
Denver Labor Day Weekend & Crowded Dance Floors Thanks to everyone who came and who put effort into the Labor Day weekend. The final count was 160 visitors, plus a few. I only danced with visitors,...

5584  Did I miss something nice? (2)
What would you add to this list of moves to use in close embrace and close quarters? thanks Walking Walk to the cross Changing of walks inside/outside Side step, syncopated step ...

5763  A different entrada at a Buenos Aires milonga (1)
While most milonga entradas are increasing in Buenos Aires, there is one organizer who is doing something different. Celia Blanco, owner of Lo de Celia, has set aside one Wednesday per month for food...

6005  Different feeling in tango (6)
Jack says: "Don't we talk a lot about the feeling of tango. I know it's very important to me [understatement!] and the feeling I have when I watch a man and a woman is completely different to when...

5621  Digital Video Cameras (3)
I am seeking advice on the correct digital video camera to purchase for videoing my dance sessions. I want a video camera that is: - lower cost - easy to setup (attach a tripod, etc) - works well with...

6016  Dividing Tango (7)
It seems convenient to me to divide Tango into two basic types based on the intent and focus of the partners: 1) Social Tango. In social tango the dancers dance FOR each other. It doesn't really matter...

6049  DJing article (1)
Hi all. I was away for a couple of days, so again, I'm late with my reply. Thanks for your nice comments on my DJ-article: I posted a slighly revised version on our site: http://www.tangodesalon.de/documents/HeroesoftheSilverDisc.pdf

5719  Do I have to invent every step of the dance,even her's ??? (1)
At the end of a not-so-flowing dance, I blurted out to my partner; " There were some rough spots in that one, wasn't there?" Well, on youtube it worked. I was hoping that she would just make something...

5717  Do I have to invent every step of the dance, even (14)
her's ??? Yep, last night's dancing wasn't good..but I'm trying to look at it positively. Perhaps, being able to zero in on what's wrong is an advance forward in my dancing. Here is the second 'problem'...

5952  Don't pick on XXXXX (2)
Don't pick on whoever-it-is for his posts and their number. If they get really excessive the moderator will step in. Meanness like this is why some people never contribute to TANGO-L. And drives...

5842  Double decker buses? (3)
When looking at Tango, one must take into consideration not only the culture but the effects on that culture that modern technology is having...today in BsAs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uXzBthVF3I

5779  dressing well? (1)
Joe, Yes, indeed, one might need a cold shower or two after that. I would love to see that, instead of the amoeba tango so prevalent everywhere now. Dressing well in tango is not about the clothes....

5794  Duh! (5)
Pretty boring stuff..Tango L Is this what it's like when the 'experts' drive the newbies out? There's only a couple of posters who are unafraid of criticism and everyone else is a critic. ...real...

6056  dull, dull, dull (12)
After a short burst of high creativity, it looks like Tango-L has fallen back into dullsville. OK..here's something to perk up the napes of the Tango-L sharpshooters. I'm working on a thesis that...

5642  Ecstasis and Control (24)
I had an interesting experience tonite...I got roped into going to a school benefit that also provided live music...sausa, ballads, mariachi... Now, I try to stay away from other than tango music...

5868  Eduardo Perez (4)
This guy dances a spiffy Milonga..I'd love to see his slow tango..even his Vals.. but alas cannot find any...Does anyone know anything about him? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpHxlMTRmAM

6040  Eduardo Saucedo & Marisa Quiroga (1)
I just posted a new video of Eduardo & Marisa dancing milonga on You tube. I'd like to hear any any comments you might have. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqNdLnepqLg Thanks, TaiChiDancer

5951  Eduardo Saucedo and Marisa Quiroga 2009-10 (1)
HOLA HELLO HEJ EVERYBODY We are going on the road with Eduardo, and at the same time co-ordinate his travel schedule for 2009 and 2010, if you want EDUARDO SAUCEDO and MARISA QUIROGA to visit...

2811  El Baile del Cielo - Copenhagen October 30-31 (2)
We hereby invite you to join us in Copenhagen! In one weekend you can meet - a world famous Argentine tango orchestra from Finland - four teachers from Italy, Germany, and Netherlands - two TJs from the...

6096  "El hombre marca y la mujer sigue" (2)
Dear tango-L list readers/writers: responding to: "Didn't we have a woman post her PHD thesis here last month. In which she tells us how the old world mentality of male/female role playing (in the dance...

6135  El Maestro 2 (1)
Sorry for the previous double post..but this one is not to be missed...another video of the essence of what we all are chasing..el duende..and is definately not a 'ghost' but rather the spirit of...

5776  Elegant Moving and Quality Dancing (1)
I've been thinking about some common elements in several different threads recently on Tango-L. These include New "nuevo tango" Sacrifices Tradition and Grace, the Atlanta Tango Festival Video, and...

5754  elements of an elegant tango (1)
What are the elements of an elegant tango in close embrace Tango dance? my 2 cents: - Maintaining good posture throughout the dance. - Avoid zigzagging and the use of shoddy feet. - Demonstrate precision,...

294  Embellishments (13)
Dear Tango friends; I've been dancing at the Milongas in BA several times and believe me there is not much space for fancy embellishments and the good milongueras that dance apilado, they don't... Huck if a person (man or woman) is paying... be class. I agree with the above statement. The paying customer should get what he or she is paying for. The (responsible) organizer always tries (emphasys on "tries") to assure gender balance, but it... Martin says: "Please...

5585  eng.tango.info - work pages now with links to (1)
videos http://eng.tango.info - work pages now have links to video listings and show the number of videos - if existent in tango.info http://eng.tango.info/work:poema - 13 http://eng.tango.info/work:indio_manso...

5972  Estilo Villa Urquiza (13)
What is Villa Urquiza? See http://nastynest.blogspot.com/2007/11/villa-urquiza-tango-style.h
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The Villa urquiza Style, uses an elastic embrace. Usually close, but it may have variable light if...

5724  estilos de abrazas (1)
Robin asks; how about the placement of the women's arms and head? Hi Robin, and all, I've watched this trend with interest the last couple of years, and asked around about it. I've been told that it's...

5858  Events and Classes (1)
Everyone organizing events and classes - I'm gearing up for issue 2 of Smooth Moves - free, quarterly PDF ezine on dance. Please get in touch if you'd like your class / event to be listed on the website...

5852  Excellence (1)
Jake wrote: There are those in the world who think that relaxing with friends over a couple of beers is the greatest of pleasures, and there are those who think that sitting down with the latest issue...

5860  Facebook Tangos - Stone Soup 08 (1)
Hi, For those of you not in the know, facebook has become a wonderful social tool for connecting, and is fast becoming a great way for all of your tango friends to hook up. As it relates to Stone...

5895  ..A fast Tango calls for fast dancing (2)
A very fast tango, almost Milonga speed.. (hey, I'm new at this..so, correct me if I'm wrong) Here the lead seems preoccupied with doing the 'steps' right The spirit of the music is sacrificed..

6074  Feedback Requested on Free Tango Classes & Milongas (2)
We have a student tango group at our university. This is the third year we are giving classes. The first year we gave classes and held milongas the events were free, because we wanted to attract people....

5884  Female Roommate needed (1)
Hello List: A female roommate is needed for a participant to share a nice room at the Deauville Beach Resort for the Tango Fantasy Festival on Miami Beach, May 22 through May 26. Please contact me...

6109  Festivalito con Amigos - Photos & Videos (1)
Dear friends! We want to thank all Tangueros and Tangueras who visited our "Festivalito con Amigos" in Saarbr?cken last weekend. More than 200 guest from all over the world (USA, Netherlands, France,...

5928  festivals.tango.info/2008 - 82 festivals (2)
Hi all, until now there are 82 festivals at http://festivals.tango.info/2008 See the next upcoming at http://festivals.tango.info/ register a festival http://data.tango.info/index.php?register=festival

5907  Finding tango in out-of-the-way places (2)
Finding tango in small towns is hard. There are several ways to go about it, aside from TANGO-L and such which usually don't work too well. One way is bring up Google.com, select Maps, and enter "city"...

5668  Finnish Tandas (6)
Thank you for the information on the origin of tandas! ?? If you're not interested in tango "arcana" you can skip to the next email. ?I'm providing the information only because some of the people on... Personally, I've found Barbra's sig to...

5676  the first interview for Tango Seduction (4)
The interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKA6e1h6hwE The dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTM2DcX5fqY -- Oleh Kovalchuke Argentine Tango : Connection, Balance, Rhythm http://www.tangospring.com/

5625  Floor Finishes (1)
Here is the products that were used by Premier Hardwood Floors, Inc. (440)933-5080 on our maple hardwood dance floor in 2004. The first coat was an oil-based polyurethane. I do not know the name of...

5616  floor finishings (5)
I have recently installed a new wood floor in my living room. I then called a professional to sand it and finish it, specifying that I would be using it for dancing and that I wanted a very hard...

5665  florence and rome milongas? (1)
I have a friend visiting Italy - mainly Florence and Rome - for about a week in the first half of April. Can anyone make any suggestions for milongas? links? etc....

5675  followers expressiveness (13)
as most people on this list know, i lead and i follow. i have been told that one of my best qualities as a dancer is my ability to express myself musically. to quote someone... "you dance the... Hi Jackie, That's something we've been trying to encourage...

5807  Following is active & mulitLEVEL leads (3)
Floyd Baker (Buffalo's Ladies Only lesson report) wrote of exercises to improve following. I want to second and emphasize a point he makes - following is as active a process as leading. In a couple...

5727  foot in mouth disease (4)
dubravko wrote: <<<<Yes, indeed. Your post was a real shocker. But, why would you?stop posting? I?personally welcome your probing questions, your enthusiasm, and yes, you Actually maybe...

5602  Fox-Trot and Tango (2)
"Mario, you dance great I love to dance with you....BUT, you are not doing TangoYou are doing the FOXTROT...." ...ugh," Mario this is a common problem with those that come into Argentine Tango from...

5601  Foxtrot to Tango, how do I do it? (23)
OK, tonite at an art opening..my favorite dancer the one who dances like a feather and follows each step I take...said to me; "Mario, you dance great I love to dance with you....BUT, you are not...

5974  Free download (1)
I'm sharing a great song that is neat to hear without all the noise and scratches it has come down to us with. http://ToTANGO.net/ttindex.html

5916  Free subscriptions to B.A. Tango available in PDF (1)
format I have been a reader of B.A. Tango--Buenos Aires Tango by Tito Palumbo since 1996. I subscribed to his magazine for $40US a year so that I could receive the bi-weekly editions in Illinois. ...

4133  Front Ochos (23)
I have tried to figure out how ballroom tango came out of the tango from Argentina. They are so different! One place they can be similar is in the front ocho done badly. In ballroom they are called...

6082  Fun with a Milonga-Candombera (3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKfu2wOG154 Jean-Pierre Sighe TANGO MAGDALENA, LLC 580 Grand Ave, Suite # 305 Oakland, CA 94610 Contact: 510-836 0812 Website : http://www.tangomagdalena.com

5919  Fwd: Move Over Flaco Danny. (1)
Ok, thanks to all that responded to me in private and thanks to the ones that posted the responces. I understand your point Mario, thanks for making it "clear"......... Good tangos to all. Abrazo. Luna...

5669  Fwd: NYTimes.com: Argentine Nights (2)
TRAVEL | March 16, 2008 Argentine Nights <http://travel.nytimes.com/2008/03/16/travel/16buenos.html?e By DENNY LEE Drawn by low prices and Paris-like elegance, expat artists, designers and musicians...

5942  Fwd: Pettiness that needs to be broken (1)
reply-type=response Thank you Alexis. So Brick posts my article and says;. "I thought I'd share it with the list, especially those who object to followers being compared to non-human things." ...What...

5939  Fwd: Women as wild horses that need to be broken? (3)
I got this commentary in a weekly newsletter from our local Tango School here in San Diego (the one that has a teachers training program.) I found it somewhat amusing, so I thought I'd share it with

5962  fwiw my 2 cents (4)
Julio Balmaceda & Corina de la Rosa He comes from a long tradition of Tango and a very famous father who was a renowned teacher of Tango. ..for me, this couple really says it all when they...

5806  FYI More Economic Problems for Argentina (1)
See Argentine Bonds Tumble After Economy Minister Lousteau Resigns http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid 601086&sid=aqev_rwKv58Q&refer=ne ws

5871  Gabriella Elias (1)
INSTRUCTOR REVIEW Gabriel Elias (edugabitango@hotmail.com) 4574-1593 website www.advance.comar/usuarios/edugabi I took a gamble on this class and just showed up for it. I knew nothing about Gabriel...

6116  Gavito's lead (2)
On 29 Sep Alexis Cousein wrote: I agree. Gavito also said "I lead and I follow." In one of his teaching tapes with Marcela Duran, he showed a figure and said, "Now, if the woman isn't sensitive enough...

5418  Gender Imbalance (61)
I don't know of a solution to the problem of women sitting out for most of the night. I am aware of it and try to accomodate. But, I think leaders are selecting with such criteria as: Followers with/to... As far as the gender sorting goes, here is a quote from...

473  Gender Roles in Tango (15)
My wife and I recently gave a lecture and set of demos on tango in a university ethnomusicology class. One of the students, who decided thereafter to write her term paper on gender roles in tango, asked... Leonardo... I'm sorry but that is similar to saying...

5628  Get real - If it looks total different and and (10)
sounds totally different- it is totally different! A recent post: "American ballroom was created by Irene and Vern Castle as they returned by boat from Europe where they 'discovered' Argentine Tango...... Well Jay, we seem to have travelled the complete circle and arrived back at the...

5631  Get Real! (5)
Differences between Ballroom Tango and Argentine Tango. I will mention just a few of them: 1- Ballroom Tango was derived from Argentine Tango. A.T. is different from all the ballroom dances in many...

5841  Getting educated (11)
With all of the talk about qualifications for teachers, it dawns on me that I don't have a functional definition of what it means to be well-rounded and educated in tango. At this point my education...

5753  Good advice from Milena Plebs (1)
Trusting and giving oneself by Milena Plebs Upon finding ourselves in the embrace of tango we engage our body, we involve ourselves at a physical level and we are vulnerable. There is an intense exchange...

5805  Good morning, Vals (2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMyyqFEZcGQ Liliana Godoy y Abel dance a milonguero Vals. What better way to start the day than an upbeat dance. Hmmm, I just got this message: I was having a great...

6006  Gratuitous insults and "social" tango (6)
I know that there is a smiley face at the end of this statement, but this nevertheless seems to me a rather gratuitously insulting remark, creating more heat than light, and perhaps reflecting significant

5944  Gustavo Naveira Interview, Part 3 (2)
Dear tango aficionados, Part 3 of an extended interview with Gustavo Naveira is available on our website at http://www.danceoftheheart.com/naveirainterview.htm The interview is ongoing - if you have...

4043  Gustavo Santaolalla and Cafe de los Maestros (5)
Gustavo Santaolalla is one very successful Argentine musician, composer and producer. Recently, he won the Hollywood Foreign Press award for the music he wrote for the movie Brokeback Mountain. And...

5658  gustavo's walk-space in close embrace. (1)
Look at :27-:50 in the clip you attached. He does walk directly in front of her feet, ie his right in front of her left, when he walks straight ahead in parallel system. Of course, when he switches...

5744  Harsh & comments (1)
Hi guys; Forgive me for being self-conscious; seeing people talking about "Keith" making harsh comments, I just wish to make sure you know it's not "This" Keith. You know what I mean. BTW, I was just...

5976  Headphone Tango - the "new dance form" coming to a (1)
terrorist attack site near you. Video: http://current.com/items/89039727_tangocommute A display of unity and compassion on the third anniversary of the July 7th London Bombings. and Are you and...

5697  Heal or toe (ball first) (2)
Hi, as we were referred two, i'd like to contribute our opinion. We dance both versions, depending on the music and mood: Heel first - to rhythmic, older music. Here we focus on the casual, more rustic...

5694  Heel First? (14)
there are rooted in the ground. The feet have roots in the ground. When you take that step forward, backward or side your toe is never lifted off the ground. So take a deep breath, open...

5696  heel / Toe (3)
I know How I walk. I didn't view any youtubes Being in tango since 96 This question always came up and I always got both answeres. So what I do is. Long, show steps it's heel and then the toe Short,...

5571  Help Newbies Dance in Tight Spaces (2)
Help Newbies Dance in Tight Spaces When I was a beginner, my first milonga was on a very small, very crowded floor. No room to move. DisasterVille! Later, as a more advanced dancer, I had a few interesting...

5573  Tango-L Helping Newbies Dance in Tight Spaces (5)
- Why not show them something they all already know how to do? Remember your first dancing? What did you do? Well, you put your arms around the girl's waist and she put her arms around your shoulders...

5992  Hermanos Macana (5)
http://vidslib.com/index.php?view625948 The link works. It is interesting that in that video the brothers start dancing to a trditional tango but about 3:00 minutes they continue dancing to the Peronist...

6047  "hinge embrace" (1)
Mario says "There is a 'hinge' embrace ...so, this must go way back..this guy's been dancingfrom before they dropped the atomic bomb." Mario this is the embrace used today by most of us, it is the...

5655  History of Tango -- Old dances Part III -- Mamita (1)
(Concepcion Amaya) http://www.eltangauta.com/nota.asp?id1 written by Hector Benedetti for El Tangauta with English translation

5638  History of Tango -- Old dance places Part II -- (1)
Maria la Vasca Article by Hector Benedetti in El Tangauta http://www.eltangauta.com/nota.asp?id7&idedicion=0 More about tango in brothels by Christine Denniston: http://www.history-of-tango.com/tango-origins.html

6011  Homer Ladas (1)
I just wanted to comment that Homer is one of those unique dancers who is innovative, yet, when in his presence, he dances so well that I was able to just watch and learn. That isn't always the case...

5943  Homesick for Buenos Aires? (3)
Can you be homesick for a city you only visited a couple of weeks several years ago? It seems you can. I got tears in my eyes as I watched this video, and it seemed as if my heart hurt in my chest.

2825  Hope (8)
I am quite surprised that Manuel Patinno finds Herve' incoherent, as it seems that he does. Herve' obviously writes in a hurry, letting a few non-native inaccuracies, and lots of typos, stand -- I believe...

6129  How to dance the "3 3 2" form (6)
Hi you, Without going into musical notation to show the rhythm, the easiest way to describe it is to count out loud from 1 to 8, but emphasising or clapping the numbers underlined: One 2 3 Four Five 6...

5996  How do yoou know it is tango (4)
Somebody sent a private E-mail with the following message: (re. to my prior note) "How do you know they are dancing tango". "I wonder how good any of them can lead in a social setting anyone My answer:

5570  How do you get nice, neat blocks of print in your (1)
Tango L posts??? I cannot figure out how to post here without a runnon line going and going to the right. please help, I see some nice square blocks of posts..how do they do it?? This is such...

5995  How do you know they are dancing tango? (1)
How do you know that Miguel and Augusto are dancing tango? Jack asks Melvillefox in reference to: http://vidslib.com/index.php?view625948 They are dancing stage tango, no doubt about it. They...

6093  How to initiate the lean (1)
I have always found that the way to initiate the lean is similar to the way in which the man can stop a lady who has turned into an automatic ocho machine - by lifting her ever so slightly. That does...

6089  How to initiate lean (9)
Igor, I'm prepared to believe that it's possible to lead the lady into a Carpa or to Apilado without using suspension and that's one reason why I posted. But, as I need to make a backward step to initiate...

5822  how to lead (was 'weight (1)
change') format=flowed Oleh Kovalchuke wrote: not a lead at all. *Your* weight shifting isn't. Nobody is claiming that you necessarily lead a weight shift of the follower through your own weight shift, except...

2583  How many Tango-L posters does it take to change a light bulb? (8)
As enjoyed at another site: No flames please, it's humor; and relevant in so far as it it seems to reflect(in an, admittedly, somewhat teasing way) a not insignificant amount of the activity I have observed...

5824  how many tangos (used for dancing)? (2)
I did a little thought experiment. It is not about how many tangos have been recorded, but rather how many tangos (milongas & valses) are used at milongas in Buenos Aires. A typical milonga in Buenos...

5817  how many tangos? (4)
I have been talking to someone at recent milonga, and someone has asked me, if I get tired of dancing to the same old tangos. My answer was no: the mood, the partner change the emotional meaning of...

5823  how much weight? (2)
Hi, there's been a whole lotta talk about all these weight changes. They are not black and white. It seems as though many, many people in the US, teachers and dancers, have ascribed to the belief that...

5722  I applaud you, Mario (1)
Was: Too many videos spoil the dance. Mario, I've told you this privately. I guess it might be appropriate to say this publically. I applaud you for driving this group by giving them some very interesting...

5990  I could'a done Robert Di Nero "Ya wanna follow?" (1)
Hey, I could'a done my Robert DiNero but hey, I would only use that on a guy (or a politicaly correct woman like Nikki) http://mx.youtube.com/user/nacotete

5986  I m looking for Noemi Yodice (4)
Hi, mi name is Marina, from Buenos Aires. I m looking for Noemi Yodice. I lost her email address many years ago, can t found her again. Please, help me to found Noemi again. Thanks a lot & sorry...

5705  I'm starting to see the pauses (6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSCyTJxTlOU I'm starting to see the pauses...before it was all just a whirl. I'm progressing. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster...

5729  "that insulting metaphor" (1)
they could be called "pall bearers" or "frankensteins" in etc. but does name calling solve any problems? when criticizing it's better to be constructive. it's important to be careful when comparing...

5686  Interesting Practcie Tool (2)
I will go to great lengths to improve my dancing. To improve my molinetes, I've practiced with a circular garbage can. To improve my frame I practiced with a broom handle on my shoulders behind my...

5678  Invisibility (1)
The dancing was beautiful and I seemed to disappear. But I guess I never reappeared after that. I was invisible. Why do men seem to approve of you, but then never come back? The eyes dart away, they...

1332  Ireland (6)
We will be in Ireland from July 7-21, and in Dublin July 7-9. Does anyone know of any milongas during this time? Many thanks, Jeff Blustein

6127  Is the Milonga going Military? (6)
Melina and Detleff doing their interpretation of a Milonga This has got to be the most different looking Milonga that I've yet seen on YouTube Wow, super control and discipline...

5837  Is swing a traveling dance in Bs. As.? (1)
I had always thought that swing was a stationary dance but this video of swing at the Sunderland clearly shows a traveling dance <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4pvAvyvQQg>. Is this the general case...

6003  Is tango sexy? (2)
NOT sexy? I can dance with a lady who might be middle-aged and 20 pounds overweight. But if she really knows how to tango, man, when she's in my tange embrace, she's the sexiest woman alive! :-) Erh,...

5798  Kinisthetic sense - by Nina (1)
5. Tango alone cannot teach a person to move and to be connected with the body. Other things are needed. There is a reason why people come to tango. More often than not it is subconscious. But...

5780  Kinisthetic sense - reply to Ron (4)
Ron of Tango.Society wrote... True, but OTOH, the foundation of Alexander Technique is the observation that movement or posture that feels comfortable is often wrong from a structural standpoint, and... Each dancer needs to be comfortable...

5778  Kiss and Tango :: The Book (1)
I would be interested to hear people's thoughts on the book "Kiss and Tango" by Marina Palmer. That is, if you have already read it, or are in the process of reading it. Thanks! Alex

5835  Kung fu Milonga (1)
While everyone is still busy trying to make Tango more difficult than it ever needs to be, here is a Milonga Karate Kata as taught by Hugo Daniel. Picture five opponents attacking him from different

5827  la baldosa y corazon de papel..2 songs/dances (3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnXP45OLZbQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdbpjesqFpI Two interesting dances....la baldosa y corazon de papel the first is a demo in mostly close embrace ... At 09:27 PM 4/29/2008, Mario wrote: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnXP45OLZbQ

5714  La cruzada - the cross (1)
Some people here think that every step in tango is part of a molinete to the right or to the left, therefore the sequence of molinete steps is maintained by the woman, unless the man blocks or changes...

5984  La Valse Chaloup?e (6)
I think it's time for another reminder that there is nothing new about 'nuevo'. Neil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlgaqzOBBDo Wow - Great Tango!, Love it!! Did I see some 'Traspie' in there, maybe...

6070  Labor Day Festival:? a complaint (1)
I remember when I lived and danced in Los Angeles, one Argentine man there told me he used to hide out in the bathroom to get away from the aggressive women. And this was years and years ago. I can...

6069  Labor Day Festival: a complaint (17)
I'm not going to mince words here. There is something happening at festivals and maybe at milongas that is not pretty. Too many women are being way too aggressive in asking, no! in demanding dances...

5846  Ladies Leading (30)
The second Tuesday there starts here in L.A. a practica hosted by CasaDePractica.com for ladies who lead. I intend to go as a follower. When I first saw women leading (mostly) other women I was annoyed....

6007  The language of Tango (4)
Every dance is a language of the body. Some dances are very limited in how many "words" they have, ways to "pronounce" those words, and how they can be combined into "sentences" and "paragraphs"...

5964  LAS VEGAS FESTIVAL!! (1)
Magic,Lucky,Tango,Nights 7345 S.Durango Dr # B-107-278 Las Vegas Nv 89113 Contact 702-379-6057 Contact 702-372-9581 www.lasvegastangoweekend.com

5583  Last Tango in Portland (2)
Another great tango video put together by Miles...mil gracias amigo! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBSciVLprFs Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

5605  The Lavender Veil (1)
I inaugurated a new fiction serial about tango called "The Lavender Veil." You can download the PDF for free at my blog. http://lavenderveil.blogspot.com I hope you will take a look. I welcome your...

6095  Lead an invitation that can be ignored or fought (4)
"Of course, the indication is just that. Like every other lead in Tango, it is an invitation, not a command. The lady may ignore it if she wishes, or even fight it. One hopes that the latter will...

6117  The lead an invitation that may be ignored or (1)
faught. last note. As we say: "There is no worse blind that the one that refuses to see, or worse deaf than the one that refuses to hear". I have been very clear in my opinion with respect to leading...

6094  Lead an invitation that can be ignored or faught (22)
"Of course, the indication is just that. Like every other lead in Tango, it is an invitation, not a command. The lady may ignore it if she wishes, or even fight it. One hopes that the latter will... faught Jack Dylan wrote: Ignore and fight are the wonrg words.

1797  Lead and follow (54)
" Leaders who are taught the idea of I thank Carlos Rojas, Brian Dunn and Barbara Garvey for their explanation. They say: "we propose her a step, then she decides how and when the step is taken (just... You haven't seen some of these women dance.... Lois, Perhaps the answer lies in illustrating the followers technique... Even more specifically, it's the work that the woman...

5764  Leader's only class. (1)
There were five leaders. Four men and one woman... I taught open embrace minus the embrace. No hands tango. I taught to *expect* that the follower will be exactly where they're supposed to be...

6021  Leading with arm and hands (2)
Thank you for the many answers to the list and by private mail. Mostly to the ladies for giving their valuable opinion as being recipient of those leads. Most good dancers and tango teachers that...

6019  Leading with arms or hands (3)
I always wondered what is wrong with a well executed lead done utilizing or invoving as a complement other body parts than the torso. Do you have an opinion in this respect? Notice that I said "well...

5133  Leading Cross (17)
Hm.. Why dance not leading cross when it is so pleasant to lead it and to be lead to it!? One reason is probably those who do not lead cross just do not know how to do it. I remember - in 6 month of everyday...

5728  leading cruzada (3)
This idea of "led" versus "automatic" crossing is a problematic dichotomy that leads to a lot of misunderstaning in tango dancing, in my opinion. I have seen couples at classes and practicas debating...

4415  Leading with hands (38)
I have read from time to time the posttings on the list but I had never written till now. Jake is right. There are many ways to lead in tango depending on the level and style you are dancing. ...

6068  Learning vs. Practicing at Milongas (was: dull, (2)
dull, dull) Caroline says: No question, as others have pointed out, that the real learning happens in the Milonga, but you cannot do all your learning at Milongas without being a nuisance to your partner...

5789  Left or Right shoe first? (3)
Martin asks: I always put my left shoe on first, whether to dance tango or simply walk. I am right handed so I feel this balances me out. Thanks for bringing this important and often overlooked topic...

5615  Letting go of the left hand (3)
Just a quick one for the ladies. Do you approve or disapprove of when the leader lets go of your left hand while dancing? For those who are lefties I mean the non embracing hand (is there a technical...

6126  LINK FIX to Virtual Reality Goggles for Tango (1)
Training Go to http://devaldivia.com/ and NOT the http: //w ww.devaldivia . com address, for some reason the www address is not forwarding. b.

5739  Liz Haight y Masami workshop in Cleveland (2)
People in Cleveland shared a great experience this weekend when Liz Haight and Masami Hirokawa, from Santa Fe, NM came to Cleveland. Liz and Masami teach the Apilado style of tango and at the workshop...

5644  "Long After MIdnight at the Nino Bien.. (1)
a Yanqui's missteps in Argentina". By Brian Winter. "Part travel memoir, and part a love letter to a remarkable, troubled, and irresistible county and the dance that epitomizes it...........a step into...

983  looking for BsAs DJ Mario E. Orlando (2)
Hi, On several trips to BsAs, I enjoyed dancing to recorded music programs arranged by Mario E. Orlando. Mario at the time was the DJ at Confiteria Ideal's Friday afternoon milonga, as well as Thursdays...

5933  Looking for a Youtube clip of Milonga (2)
Sometime ago someone posted a youtube clip which included an older gentleman (white beard, rather bald), dancing Milonga with a younger women (black hair, black dress). I thought he was a good social...

5671  Los Mancifestas (1)
What can anyone tell me about the Orquesta "Los Mancifestas"? Thank you D. David Thorn Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail?-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx

5867  A lot can happen within a dance. (4)
A custom in BsAs...saying goodbye to a couple, everyone gets to dance with them and say goodbye..a peck on the cheek...touching ..and there is a neat attitude about the dance itself...see if you... OK..last...

5647  Lot's of footspace in close embrace (15)
I have been getting a gem or two of insite from personal messages with each video I post and ask about. It's working for me, thanks all. Here is Oscar Casas doing his Milonguero tango style. As...

5930  lyrics translation (2)
Hi, all-- I understand enough spanish to get the gist of these lyrics (beautiful!). Would someone please assist with a good translation? Thanks! Ira Ithaca, NY Dos corazones Waltz Music: Francisco Canaro

933  Maria Nieves (5)
Maria Nieves recently received the "artist of the year" award by A.C.E. (the association of entertainment critics) in Buenos Aires. She appeared for eleven months during 2002 with the show "Tanguera"...

5607  Mario goes to the milonga tonight. (1)
Mario goes to the milonga tonight and has some program in mind: my comments are intended to be helpful and are given with humility, knowing that there may be several answers to the same question.

5799  Mario, it gets better (5)
Mario, since you liked the Poema piece, may I offer my favoite version for your viewing pleasure? Musicality doesnt get any better than this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGZv6rSRvTo Hi Martin,

5905  mario, left hand, Yes, you can learn tango from (2)
youtube . . . Which, as it happened, is what the early Impressionists did on their visits to the Louvre.

5904  mario, left hand, Yes, you can learn tango from (1)
youtube Sometimes you "engage" the embrace in the frame and it is felt in the followers right hand, sometimes less. What others call "muscle tone." For example, in a rebote, you would "engage" not...

6128  Mario, Malina Detlef milonga clip (2)
Mario, I agree that appears to be a minimalist style; although he does get a little more animated toward the end. First, lets me say something nice about them- This is fine social dancing, esp...

5606  Mario, Mario, Mario (2)
Mario, Mario, Mario, Don't let anyone deter you from your quest. You have all these teachers, and others, (1) following YOU and (2) pleading with you to stop deviating from their norm. Way to go! This...

5555  For Mario (4)
Mario asks for a description of the first 13 steps or so in a Youtube video entitled "Noelia Hurtado & Pablo Rodriguez en Practica X." This is the first time I've analyzed a video. Time 22 sec. Steps...

5948  Mario's exercise for "slo" tango (1)
Mario, This practice exercise might help with your "slo" tango. Tango music is an eight count "phrase" right? Try using the entire eight count phrase to take only one forward step. Just a thought. Alex

5937  Marketing or hype? (13)
Dictionary: hype -- 1. Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion. 2. Exaggerated or extravagant claims made especially in advertising or promotional material. 3. An advertising or promotional ploy.

5994  Martha Graham meets Gustavo Naveira (2)
Check out sequence no. 1 and no. 2 http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=sylIGL-PcBI&feature=related There are Martha Graham workshops in Manhattan this coming week why not just go there and then just...

5788  The master dances another Vals for Youtubers (1)
Alberto Dassieu y Paulina Spinoso dancing the Vals Alberto is my favorite vals dancer...he is VERY grounded and earthy.. I get a good feeling just watching him dance...I sometimes feel like I...

5880  MAY MADNESS in Ann Arbor! (1)
PLease join the tango SPRING FUN in Ann Arbor featuring B.A. legends - Pedro "TETE" Rusconi, Silvia Ceriani, Nestor La Vitola and Enriqueta Kleinman. Don't miss this opportunity to be inspired and...

6041  Me on TV doing Tango (2)
I'm in a small vignette on web TV http://cbs3.com/brewer/argentine.tango.philadelphia.2.794729.html<
/a> I'm taking classes in Phila. with some great dancer/teachers That's me with the white shirt...

5769  Media lunas (edible) at 5:00 AM (2)
Greetings, Just got back from Buenos Aires and still going through withdrawal. Just a few observations because of length restrictions on the list. Some milongas are experiencing a change in the type...

6042  Melina?s_DJing_Primer (5)
Hey all, after I've been away for a couple of days, I was quite surprised by the personal attacks and complaints to my DJing article, that was posted by Andreas. Just to specify: - The article was...

6030  Melina?s DJing Primer (3)
Hello everybody, I just finished translating an article on DJing that seems to have become something of a standard treatise on the subject in Germany. It was published by Tangodanza magazine and written...

6034  Melina4s_DJing_Primer (1)
Andreas, you'd probably want to give Berlin a miss when I'm DJing at the major Friday and Saturday night milongas. If you really believe in stuff like "especially avoid playing a milonga tango right...

6038  Melina's DJing Primer (and Tango-L rules) (1)
Normally, moderator comments about postings are sent to the individual concerned, but this is a good example of a posting that managed with a single word to violate both the spirit and letter of two...

6036  Melinas DJing Primer (1)
*"The absolute high point with Pugliese tangos..."* -Laughable. Neil +++ To all: Please quote fairly! The original sentence is: "The absolute high point with Pugliese tangos, late Di Sarli (with vocals,...

6052  Melina's essay, "rudeness in Tango, " Tango-L (2)
postings format="flowed" Shahrukh, You are being very kind, just as you have been over so many years. You have witnessed tremendous (and fun!) flame wars, oh, like 11 years ago or so :) And you...

6051  Melina's essay, "rudeness in Tango," Tango-L (1)
postings Unfortunately, it became a "tradition" of sorts for flames and put-downs to start appearing on Tango-L a few years ago. Seemed harmless at first since they were usually accompanied by something...

5488  men who pull to their left (8)
Here is a video of ENRIQUETA KLEINMAN Y RUB?N HARYMBAT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfjsLjob0bM I take it that Ruben knows well what he is doing when he pulls out to his left so often......

5755  Mercy of men? (1)
I have never been at the mercy of any man, except maybe my father when I was not allowed to go out on a school night. How interesting to say this as a woman: When a dance relies on the male to lead...

6104  Message from Verena (1)
I received this message from Verena. She has been trying to post it to the list with no luck. "I didn't join this list for many years. Omar Vega's death made me return to it. To end all rumors before...

5874  Middle of the floor (6)
Before Nuevo ever came around, some knowledge-challenged people decided that was a good place to do their thing. If you don't know, that can seem reasonable. Of course, it's not that at all. People in...

5688  The midwest hosting milongueros (1)
Chicago and Ann Arbor are going to enjoy an authentic dose of tango from Buenos Aires this spring. Due to the efforts of Ray Barbosa in Chicago, festival participants will have the opportunity to learn...

5909  Milonga admissions in Buenos Aires (2)
Each year prior to the Campeonato Metropolitano de Baile de Tango, the city publishes the program for a month of qualifying rounds in the milongas which includes the cost of regular admission for each...

6084  Milonga candombera, canyenguera, etc (5)
MHO in this discussion is that one should not criticize in a negative form other people's dancing. At the most one could say I do not like the way he dances, or I like his dancing style ... If absolutely...

6083  Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc. (17)
Love the clip of Jean-Pierre and Bianca having fun at the docks just like old Argentina. There should be something regular done out there, like a milonga or something. I have a few videos out there...

5929  Milonga - inspiration for the weekend (20)
Igor Milongando...most instructors (usa) cannot dance the Milonga..this guy can. http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=t8wXbuJ0SYM alternative Milonga music ...but it works. http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk3nFezA-3k Put up or shut up Let's everyone who said that Igor's Milonga...

5953  milonga or practica in Vancouver (1)
I will be in Vancouver Canada on June 25-28th. Any milonga or practica around that time ? Dyane Be part of history. Take part in Australia's first e-mail archive with Email Australia. http://emailaustralia.ninemsn.com.au

6120  MILONGA... THE ORPHAN DANCE (1)
... "The umbilical cord cannot be severed without generating distortion and misunderstanding. The nurturing influence of Candombe must be revisited, re-actualized, to keep Tango evolving and generating...

5847  Milonga P.S. - Its evolution I (2)
Jake asks: "Not the so-called "urban milonga" Canaro introduced in 1932 with "Milonga sentimental." That's the milonga we dance to. Can anyone on this list /who has danced to the earlier kind/ (there...

6112  milonga in San Francisco (Oct 4th-5th) (3)
I will be in San Francisco (my first visit) on Saturday Oct 4th or Sunday Oct 5th and would like to go to a nice milonga. Any suggestions? Dyane It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au

5808  Milonga sequence (3)
Here is a clip from the Argentine film "La voz de mi ciudad" with Mariano Mores and orquesta playing Taquito Militar. There is a seven second dance sequence at 2:53 which is performed in such a different...

5931  Milonga - youtube link to Jorge Nel (4)
Sorry, forgot to include the link... http://youtube.com/watch?v=bZFvXgwXdos J TangoMoments.com Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join you on Windows Live? Messenger....

5925  Milongas of Buenos Aires - 2 (4)
Several people have emailed me asking for the names of the milongas I went to. It was several years ago; I don't remember. The curious might look at my writing web page for some specifics. It has...

6000  Milongas in Lisbon (1)
I'm going to visit Lisbon in second half of august. Could You recommend some milongas there? Maybe some interesting events? Unfortunately I don't speak Portuguese. -- ...

5760  Milongas in Madrid Spain (1)
Hi, I will be traveling to Madrid Spain the week of May 11th and would like some recommendations for Milongas. thanks Greg

6013  Milongas near Ocean City Maryland (1)
Does anyone know of any milongas near Ocean City Maryland? We will be there from August 1 - August 7. Thanks. Sue **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy...

6137  Milongueando 2009 (5)
Does anyone know anything about Milongueando 2009? It's quite expensive but is it worth attending since I could be in BsAs at that time? Their website says it's the 3rd International Encuentro of...

994  milonguero/apilado/confiteria/club style (5)
my partner jennifer has made us business cards that say tango milonguero at the top, so, for the time being, i'm going to keep calling what we do milonguero, at least until the cards run out. robin Thanks for getting this discussion going, Robin. "Pegajoso" means : sticky, contagious, clinging,

5954  MISC:Casa de Deby in Buenos Aires (1)
If you are coming to Buenos Aires for your first time or 51st, think about staying with me in Buenos Aires. I have a beautiful apartment on the 17th floor of a secure building in Palermo. I rent...

5771  Modern dance incorporates a few tango moves (4)
It's nice to see modern dance incorporate a few tango poses. They sure have come a long ways since ballet slippers..at least now, it's modern shoes and some more contemporary movements. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5zBmnShASA&feature=related

5957  Molinetes - the REAL tango basic (2)
Have you learned molinetes, also called giros? If so, you know what many Argentines consider the real tango basic. The linear pattern of the 8CB and its cousins are derided by some as tango for... larrynla@juno.com wrote: Given what "foreigners" can do to a ronda with just *one* back step and a forward moving...

5872  More Nuevo bashing. Why?? (10)
Mario wrote: I understand that nuevo tango is merely a "means of analysis that enables us to identify the movements and combinations of movements that are common in traditional tango, and to re-use...

5915  Move over Beethoven (1)
You're right Mel..you have a much better memory for details.

5890  Move over Flaco Danny.. (4)
OK, last one...another Milonga demo..well rehearsed, true but... watch Maria's dress and how it moves....there's so much creative stuff in this Milonga and it still holds up the standard of 'Beauty'...

5913  Mover over Beethoven? (1)
I think that's 'Roll over Beethoven'! - Chuck Berry. As in the old making way for the new ..... The times are a changing etc. But I could be wrong ............... Mel.

6054  Mundial porte?o de Tango 2008 (1)
There is a short video in Clarin newspaper today (clarin.com), in reference to the competition "Mundial Porte?o de tango". Graciela Gonzalez explains that the Style "Villa Urquiza" is the craze of...

816  Musicality (170)
David Gunther writes: "As someone who has been watching (okay, lurking on) this list for quite some time I've been reading some recent threads with dismay." Luda responded: "I've looked through some... Learn how to PARTY!!! The theme is Music & How to Use It. Two really... I was talking with one... I am writing this note for the benefit of... Sean Dockery wrote: "I found that singing/humming along... Hi everybody Thank you Ramiro, for opening such a delicious can of worms. I know of a dancer who defends his right to have a musicality that is like...

6122  Musings 2 (1)
Claudio Strang & Trinidad Solar.. Milonga http://youtube.com/watch?v=ftJ5WmKWb3g This is a very 'together' dance..I especially like the embrace of both members of the couple. It looks intimate...

748  musings about wonderful followers (3)
you know, i really think following is pretty amazing and underrated. first off us leaders are really only as good as the woman we are leading. if you have a wonderful dance it's because of her. it really...

6017  The Mystique of the Volcada (7)
"Enter the mysterious and exciting world of The Volcada. When properly executed this move inspires beauty. However, just like any other graceful move in Tango, the Volcada requires structure. Often

5594  NA-C: Gato & Andrea in Chicago (1)
So sorry - using a different computer & highlighted the inproper address. Will repost to Tango-A. Phoebe J. (PJ) Grant of WindyCityTango, Unlimited 312-60TANGO (312-608-2646) cell - text msgs OK

5593  NA-C: Gato Valdez and Andrea Monti arrive in (1)
Chicago next Friday, Feb. 29 for an intense weekend of workshops and performances Feb. 29, Mar. 1 and 2 ~ Tango Workshops and Performances with Gato Valdez and Andrea Monti from Buenos Aires return...

6033  NA-C Las Vegas Festival 08!!!!! (1)
Dear Tango Friends, We are looking forward to see all of you attend and share Magic Lucky Tango Nights Festival with us, we have an amazing schedule like never before at any tango festival. Considering...

5007  NA-C,NA-W,NA-E, Las vegas Tango Festival. (2)
Dear Tango friends, Get ready for the luckiest, most magical of tango weekends in... Las Vegas September 20 - 23, 2007. This will be one of the best tango festivals ever for many reasons. First, the... ? Dear Tango friends, ? Get ready for the luckiest,...

6022  NA-C: Topics announced for classes on Sun., Aug. 3 (1)
with El Pulpo in Chicago Norberto "El Pulpo" Esbrez and Stephanie Lepeu will teach two 1.5 hour classes on Sunday, August 3 beginning at 1:00p at Cafe Duvall (2257 W 23rd Place, Chicago IL 60618)....

5609  NA, EU, SA, AZ: Space available for female(s) in (1)
large BsAs apt anytime in March 2008 Two tangueras recently dropped out of our previously arranged apartment rental for the ENTIRE month of March 2008 in Buenos Aires. I am looking for 1 or 3 women...

5982  NA-W Las vegas festival 08!!! (3)
Remember early bird July 31!!!!! Magic,Lucky,Tango,Nights 7345 S.Durango Dr # B-107-278 Las Vegas Nv 89113 Contact 702-379-6057 Contact 702-372-9581 www.lasvegastangoweekend.com

5826  NBC TODAY: Tango Clip (1)
Matt Lauer from "NBC Today" was in Buenos Aires, Argentina to kick off this year's "Where in the World is Matt" tour. This clip shows a little bit of a show demonstration at the Obelisco. Steve

4754  New Milonga in Buenos Aires (6)
Saludos! There's a new milonga in the center of town on Friday nights, and it looks like it's here to stay. There's been no good alternative to Gricel for many years (except for Canning in Palermo),...

5773  New 'nuevo tango' Sacrifices Tradition and (1)
Grace Pablo Inza was my very first dance teacher when he and Gladys Fernandez visted Hong Kong a number of times in 1995 and 1996. This was in Pablo's pre-Nuevo days when he was a very traditional...

5772  New "nuevo tango" Sacrifices Tradition and Grace (16)
Here's a great article by Terence Clarke on Tango Nuevo, with the popular DNI school in BsAs as an example of what he terms "Playground Tango": http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/04/15/125453.php

5851  New Tango Documentary - call for dancers (2)
Not sure if this has been posted to the list yet or not, so in case not..... Be a better friend, newshound, and ooops, I accidentally sent it without the link below. The documentary is about social...

3410  New videos (16)
Hello everybody, I just added a few new videos to our homepage, which show our style and approach to Tango de Saln. This includes a video of our performance at the Confiteria Ideal in Buenos Aires...

6136  New Years Eve in Buenos Aires (1)
I'm going to be in BA for the holidays. Does anyone know of any special tango events on New Years Eve? Robin Tara

5821  Nigerian scammers (1)
Heads up to anyone looking online for apartments in Buenos Aires. The Nigerian scammers have even invaded that area of online commerce. My wife is looking for one and a Craigslist ad she responded to...

5796  Nina - at the computer too long. (1)
Not poking fun ....... I think your post was great. I take comfort in the possibility of a 40 year old body possibly being more in tune than a 20 year old body, although I'm 50 (but started Tango at

5950  Nino Bien :: Wood Floors (1)
Anyone have any ideas on how I might go about finding out the wood species of the floors at Nino Bien? It would also be great if I could find out the oil they use, the buffing equipment/screens, and...

5592  No dancing before... (1)
"Defining the dance strictly by the music creates a very slippery slope. Tell me - what is tango? Is it only OT Victor and the Old Guard? Does it move forward in time to D'Arienzo (who still played...

5577  No dancing before the music (34)
With all due respect, I agree that one must understand the music and to feel it. It is what makes the difference between someone dancing, and someone running through a series of steps and patterns. Deby, I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone is different. So, a general statement that you would have to listen to the music for a year before dancing just isn't... they can dance Tango. And it seems... Tango. Anton: Defining the dance strictly by the music creates a very slippery slope. Tell me... Hola...

6014  No need to take sides (5)
David wrote: "The problem I have is with the bigoted and hateful views that I occasionallyfeel are expressed by one stylistic crowd or the other." I entirely agree with you that the...

6012  No need to tke sides (was nuevo dancing to the (2)
music) Brick wrote: "I don't really know why people find the need to take sides and rallyunder names like "Milongeuro style," "Salon Style" or "Nuevo style."I don't see that as doing anything but...

110  No Subject (104)
I must apologize to many of the participants on the Tango-L list, because I receive the list in the condensed format. The reason that I receive the list in the condensed format is because I also maintain... I"m NEW, used to be Tango Voz My new screen name is NEW You are welcome Maritza

3075  Not all milongas of Buenos Aires are closed (4)
Concerning recent Janis Kenyon posting, I have just talked with Confiteria Ideal (local number 5265 8069/8078), and they will open the evening milonga as usual, from 3.30 pm to 10 pm. Viejo Correo...

5708  Not leading vs.leading the cross (10)
I would like to know what is the benefit of leading vs. not leading the cross. My impression is that most people (both in Argentina and abroad) do not lead the cross. The woman automatically locks...

5751  Note to Kathryn Charles. (1)
Hello Kathryn; The Tango Festival is not mine, it is run by Tom Stermit?s who runs a fantastic tango festival in a great community. There are always a lot of great dancers and Leads that attend. Which...

1236  novedades del maestro de tango de ny (11)

5968  Nuevo, Apilado... and marketing. The bottom (1)
line is always $$$ There is always marketing. Someone with tango dance skills communicates that knowledge in teaching, and the student pays for the instruction. This is not crime, it is capitalism at...

5970  Nuevo, Apilado, marketing (15)
""Clarin, the major Buenos Aires daily paper, called her one of the four most important influences on contemporary tango..." I've heard this is a fabrication. Does anyone actually have a copy of any...

5967  Nuevo, Apilado... and marketing. The botom line is (5)
always $$$ Just out of curiosity... Was not Susana Miller one of the very first dancers to create the distinction between "tango" and "tango close embrace (apilado)"? Some say she did so out of...

5873  Nuevo Bashing - why? (7)
"Maybe my friends Fabian, Gustavo and Chicho and some others would like to show some leadership to their blithe disciples"? Explain about respectfully dancing in the ronda and keeping to your own space...

6008  Nuevo Figures (2)
David, You disagree but then immediately prove my point by describing 2 such Nuevo figures. A Salon or Milonguero dancer might have no such figures to describe. Even Ochos an Giros are just walking...

5934  Nuevo Hot (1)
Noelia and Pablo with shades of Chi Chi... This is sexy stuff even if it isn't my cup of tea http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=_O7OIFG9w1o

5743  Nuevo Milonguero (3)
It could be that some instructors, when visiting Buenos Aires, cannot resist the powerful magnet of Villa Malcolm and their dancing evolves out of inspiration. Or it could be that they are seeing their...

5881  Nuevo no longer evolutionary process? (1)
I seem to detect a shift of opinion by Nuevo exponents during the past few months. From a position of Nuevo being an evolutionary result, to it being a style of Tango. To me an entirely reasonable position....

5784  Nuevo Tango Bashing (2)
I am in my 60s and dance close embrace. When I go out to dance, I wear overpriced wool slacks and overpriced conservative dress shirts. I am not sure that I know what "cargo pants" are. Sometimes...

5774  "nuevo tango" -- Basic economics and exoticism (2)
I enjoyed reading the different positions offered in regards to tango styles. One missing point in this discussion is simple economics. Tango Nuevo proliferates because there is a demand for it!! matter...

5865  Nuevo Tango is not looking back (5)
We've heard it said that the Nuevo Tango is sucking in the youth and soon they will convert to Salon Tango once they get into the music of it. Well, don't hold your breath. We know that Nuevo Tango...

5777  Nuevo tango just another evolutionary wave (4)
I have absolutely no trouble watching, learning, or doing nuevo tango - and I'm an old geezer in his 60s. And I certainly don't shave my head or grow a goat's-beard beard or dress in cargo pants.

5782  Nuevo Tango in a nutshell (..If that's all there is (2)
to dance in..) Friday night Milonga in San Miguel de Allende has live music and a small dance floor. Last week, two new Nuevo couples came into town and visited the Milonga. They were pretty advanced...

5617  Nuevo y Viejo (6)
It seems to me that with the two different styles of Tango that post here, and each taking potshots at each other it will be very rare that someone takes a chance and posts an in-depth opinion...

5623  Number of people dancing tango? (1)
I have a friend who is doing a research paper and he asked me if I had any idea of the number of people that dance tango. Does anyone have any statistics on the number of people dancing tango either...

5672  NYT article... (2)
and they mentioned my blog. (As of this writing more than 3500 hits in 2.5 days!) I know it is difficult for many people who have never been here before, but tango is not a regular part of Argentine...

5800  Old dancer's never die (1)
OMG - Ludmila! This is one reason why old guys keep truck'en. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjNYna7GzUU ok ..this is my last post today..got to get ready for the Milonga tonight..how?..4 hours...

5565  Omar Vega's videos (11)
(http://tangohk.com/\) Nice site, Keith. You have a link, on there, to TheTangoCatalogue.com. Unfortunately, Daniel Trenner's efforts seem to have been lost. That site no longer offers the large Between 1996 and 2001, Daniel Trenner produced...

5640  One little impression from the milongas of Buenos (1)
Aire A woman in the milongas of Buenos Airestakes herself seriously.She carefully selects each item of clothing to create a specific effect. Her hair is sumptuous and flowing, and blonde. Her nails lacquered...

5589  One more video... (1)
Hi, There is one more video that was not posted along with the rest of the bunch and a few of you asked "What happened to the opening night stuff you shot Miles ???". As I did shoot a fair amount...

5710  one step at a time (2)
In case you missed it, here is Maria following and using the 'one step at a time' technique. ..can it get more beautiful, subtle and powerful than this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErmwG5IIe6k&feature=related

6090  one year birthday (1)
This coming week will mark one year in Tango obsession for me. So, I'm going to report my thinking at this stage..just for the hell of it. I've probably averaged 5 hours of milongas and/or classes...

5598  oops, jeez, sorry, but what else? (1)
I just had 2hrs worth of work destroyed by Yahoo. I hope you are monitoring this, Yahoo business people, cuz you're dead if you step anywhere in my sights.

6020  Open/crossed step uses? (7)
[the difference between an 'open' step and a 'crossed' step] but received no feedback. I hope you found my comments useful. They were useful. Thanks! Part of the difficulty understanding what open...