Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:54:34 +1000
From: David Brewer <spiraldb@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>
Subject: Archives for Tango-L
Hi. I have recently subscribed to Tango-L, and enjoy the many messages I
have already received. Thank you! I run a Ballroom studio in Hobart,
Tasmania (Australia), and have taught a sort of Argentine Tango for two
years. It is mainly Argentine with some Ballroom tango thrown in - would
probably horrify some people, but I always try to keep the suspense and
the partner connection; there is none of the 'playing to the crowd'
stuff.
Is it possible to see older discussion threads so that I can familiarize
myself with the history of present threads? I would also like to see
older subjects to avoid raising questions that have been asked before -
and to learn, of course.
I tried the URL http://sunsite.ubc.ca/TangoBC/Tango-L/ from Info about
the Tango Mailing List but it appears to no longer active.
Cheers,
David
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:09:52 EST
From: Timothy Pogros <TimmyTango@AOL.COM>
Subject: archives
Can some please help me
I need to find a story I wrote that would be in the archives
How do I get to the Archives?
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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:33:50 -0700
From: Barbara Garvey <barbara@TANGOBAR-PRODUCTIONS.COM>
Subject: Re: TANGO-L
I found this in a book I'm reading; it reminded me of many TANGO-L
discussions (I've changed the quote slightly as to tense and pronouns, thus
paraphrasing the paraphrase):
"To paraphrase Mark Twain regarding a literary puzzle, it seems our studies
have already thrown considerable darkness on the subject, and if our
research continues, we will soon know nothing about the matter at all."
;-)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 11:46:23 -0700
From: Rick FromPortland <pruneshrub04@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: TANGO-L
I'm so glad Barbara laid the groundwork for Mark Twain quotes & Tango-L ;o)
"Huckleberry Finn" is one of my favorite novels, right there with Joseph Heller's "Catch 22".
* Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.
* Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.
* Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
* Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.
* Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
* I can live for two months on a good compliment
* I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.
* I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying that I approved of it.
* I was gratified to be able to answer promptly. I said I don't know.
* It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
R
PS: I'm pleased, sort of ;o), to affirm that luda's right; intimacy is not for the faint of heart ;o)
PPS: I love astrid's postings, intelligent & her own take on things...
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: TANGO-L
> Give me a break!
>
> I don't read TANGO-L to hear you whining about a disaster in the USA and I
> don't pray because I don't believe in God. And, if I did pray, it would
> for the innocents in Iraq that your country are slaughtering on a daily
> basis. You make me sick!
>
> Keith
>
>
>
>
>
>
First teacher response received below, though not quite the type I was
hoping for ;)
Chris
Subject: Tango-L
Subject: Tango-L
Chris
Subject: Tango-L
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:21:15 -0500 (EST)
From: "Keith Elshaw" <keith@totango.net>
Subject: [Tango-L] Tango-L
To: tango-l@mit.edu
I'm sorry (that's a Canadian for you, eh?), I wish to say:
Tango-L was once such a great, great thing. There are many people who met
somewhere and became life-long friends (even if they have never met in
person also) through it.
About 8 years ago, one chap was very rude and disruptive for his own
inscrutable reasons, and he was taken off the list; after which a cordial
atmosphere resumed for a while. But he started a bad thing.
The list was moderated; then it was un-moderated again as it was just too
much work for the volunteers. I think that era sort of wore a lot of them
out.
Through it all, the presence behind the scenes in the person of the
orginator, Shahruk Merchant in Boston, has been, I would say, the most
wise and generous person. Always I wish to express thanks to him for what
he has done.
Because I was in tango before there was this forum. And I appreciate the
friendships it brought me and the sense of community it brought to the
tango world for so many when it was established.
Yes, there are the cycles which became tiresome to many listeros. The same
questions would come up again and again, because new people are always
coming to tango, and they find the forum, and ask once again to discuss
issues already dealt with - BUT NOT BY THEM.
Why has this forum attracted so many nit-pickers who delight in showing
how superior they wish to be seen by jumping all over innocent posters?
I don't know.
But by about 4 years ago, these folks had about killed the whole thing.
I grant that after a long time it is natural for people to kind of drift
away. There is always a kind of attrition.
But what Tango-L has experienced wasn't natural - it was forced by
inconsiderate actives.
The next time a new person writes to ask for the 1,000th time on the list
about an ocho or whatever, why can't we all just smile and be glad there
is another new person come to the party instead of yelling at them that
that is a stupid question? Know what I mean?
Why do the actives have to be so pedantic and anal about obscure
intellectual pissing contests?
Do you really have to get into a pissing match with me now about what I'm
writing here? Is it really necessary?
We don't have to wonder why the handful of people who have killed this
list do what they do. It is obvious.
Sure, we can feel sorry for them and do every time they throw out their
thing to try to convince how big it is (seems like 90% are male) - but I
feel a whole lot sorrier that they can't get along in a community
situation that was and could be a great little thing - this Tango-l.
I call for a moratorium on making innocent posters feel bad - especially
new folks. And yelling like an idiot at other people you think didn't
express themselves as you would.
If we do this, it will come back to life. You watch.
The whole tango world is growing. This certainly should, too.
Angry Hogs - you'll find European tango with strict tempo much more to
your liking, methinks. Fits good with limited sensibilities. And slapping
people down for your own amusement exhibits such, surely.
I just care, so I wanted to express what I know a lot of people feel.
Keith
ToTANGO.net
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:48:46 -0500
From: Floyd Baker <febaker@buffalotango.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Tango-L
To: "Keith Elshaw" <keith@totango.net>
Cc: tango-l@mit.edu
Bravo...
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:21:15 -0500 (EST), you wrote:
>I'm sorry (that's a Canadian for you, eh?), I wish to say:
>
>Tango-L was once such a great, great thing. There are many people who met
>somewhere and became life-long friends (even if they have never met in
>person also) through it.
>
>About 8 years ago, one chap was very rude and disruptive for his own
>inscrutable reasons, and he was taken off the list; after which a cordial
>atmosphere resumed for a while. But he started a bad thing.
>
>The list was moderated; then it was un-moderated again as it was just too
>much work for the volunteers. I think that era sort of wore a lot of them
>out.
>
>Through it all, the presence behind the scenes in the person of the
>orginator, Shahruk Merchant in Boston, has been, I would say, the most
>wise and generous person. Always I wish to express thanks to him for what
>he has done.
>
>Because I was in tango before there was this forum. And I appreciate the
>friendships it brought me and the sense of community it brought to the
>tango world for so many when it was established.
>
>Yes, there are the cycles which became tiresome to many listeros. The same
>questions would come up again and again, because new people are always
>coming to tango, and they find the forum, and ask once again to discuss
>issues already dealt with - BUT NOT BY THEM.
>
>Why has this forum attracted so many nit-pickers who delight in showing
>how superior they wish to be seen by jumping all over innocent posters?
>
>I don't know.
>
>But by about 4 years ago, these folks had about killed the whole thing.
>
>I grant that after a long time it is natural for people to kind of drift
>away. There is always a kind of attrition.
>
>But what Tango-L has experienced wasn't natural - it was forced by
>inconsiderate actives.
>
>The next time a new person writes to ask for the 1,000th time on the list
>about an ocho or whatever, why can't we all just smile and be glad there
>is another new person come to the party instead of yelling at them that
>that is a stupid question? Know what I mean?
>
>Why do the actives have to be so pedantic and anal about obscure
>intellectual pissing contests?
>
>Do you really have to get into a pissing match with me now about what I'm
>writing here? Is it really necessary?
>
>We don't have to wonder why the handful of people who have killed this
>list do what they do. It is obvious.
>
>Sure, we can feel sorry for them and do every time they throw out their
>thing to try to convince how big it is (seems like 90% are male) - but I
>feel a whole lot sorrier that they can't get along in a community
>situation that was and could be a great little thing - this Tango-l.
>
>I call for a moratorium on making innocent posters feel bad - especially
>new folks. And yelling like an idiot at other people you think didn't
>express themselves as you would.
>
>If we do this, it will come back to life. You watch.
>
>The whole tango world is growing. This certainly should, too.
>
>Angry Hogs - you'll find European tango with strict tempo much more to
>your liking, methinks. Fits good with limited sensibilities. And slapping
>people down for your own amusement exhibits such, surely.
>
>
>
>I just care, so I wanted to express what I know a lot of people feel.
>
>Keith
>
>ToTANGO.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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