2166 Tango-L Archives
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:01:47 -0800
From: Philip Seyer <philipseyer@ILOVEMUSIC.COM>
Subject: Tango-L Archives
OK, good. How do we access 2002?
... and other tango-l archives?
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:19:11 -0300
From: Tango-L and Tango-A Administrator <tango-L-owner@MIT.EDU>
Subject: [Tango-L] Tango-L Archives and Lucy Lynch's whereabouts?
To: tango-L@MIT.EDU
A user reported that the Tango-L archives maintained by Lucy Lynch at
the University of Oregon
(http://pythia.uoregon.edu/~llynch/Tango-L/index.html) no longer work. I
tried to email her but the email address on the home page of that
archive (llynch@darkwing.uoregon.edu) gets returned as "User Unknown" as
well.
There is an archive at http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/tango-l/ which
does work, but that is just since May 2006 and Lucy's went back further.
It would be good to be able to restore them, or at least have access to
them to host them elsewhere, so if anyone knows how I might get hold of
Lucy, please do send her contact information to me at
tango-L-owner@mit.edu, and/or forward this message to her.
Thanks,
Shahrukh
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:15:02 -0400
From: Martin Waxman <martin@waxman.net>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Tango-L Archives and Lucy Lynch's whereabouts?
To: Tango-L and Tango-A Administrator <tango-L-owner@mit.edu>,
tango-L@mit.edu
??? Works for me.
I connected immediately to the Tango-L archives.
No problem.
Marty
At 11:19 AM 7/30/2008, Tango-L and Tango-A Administrator wrote:
>A user reported that the Tango-L archives maintained by Lucy Lynch at
>the University of Oregon
>(http://pythia.uoregon.edu/~llynch/Tango-L/index.html) no longer work. I
>tried to email her but the email address on the home page of that
>archive (llynch@darkwing.uoregon.edu) gets returned as "User Unknown" as
>well.
>
>There is an archive at http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/tango-l/ which
>does work, but that is just since May 2006 and Lucy's went back further.
>It would be good to be able to restore them, or at least have access to
>them to host them elsewhere, so if anyone knows how I might get hold of
>Lucy, please do send her contact information to me at
>tango-L-owner@mit.edu, and/or forward this message to her.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Shahrukh
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:45:03 -0400
From: Martin Waxman <martin@waxman.net>
Subject: [Tango-L] Tango-L Archives and Lucy Lynch's whereabouts?
To: meaning of life <kushi_bushi@hotmail.com>, tango-L@mit.edu
Years 2000 - 2002 to the present return a server error.
1994 to 2000 seem to be OK.
I contacted the U of Oregon about it -- could be a server problem or
an archive backup problem.
And, yes, my email to Lucy was returned. But I think that was
because of the extra space before the @ sign.
I emailed her again, leaving out the space.
I let you know what happens.
Marty
At 07:30 PM 7/30/2008, you wrote:
>martin,
>
>after you get to the main screen, see if you can go into the current
>archives. i got to the main screen just fine, but then got a data
>set error when i tried to look at the archives.
>
>dan
>
>The Tangonista
>Sponsered by P.E.T.A. (People Expressing Tango Attitude)
>NOTICE - no cats were injured in the making of our music
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Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:15:52 -0400
From: Martin Waxman <martin@waxman.net>
Subject: [Tango-L] Update on saving the Tango-L archives
To: tango-l <tango-l@mit.edu>
Below is my current correspondence with U of Oregon.
We might be able to save the archives.
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:29:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: NANCY <ningle_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Update on saving the Tango-L archives
To: tango-l <tango-l@mit.edu>, Martin Waxman <martin@waxman.net>
Martin,
I contacted Lucy directly ( with a little Google search) and she is on it. I don't think she realized we had lost the Server space with her departure from U. of Oregon. She will let us know when the Archives are restored. I copied this info to Shahrukh, the list Owner, so I think we should let the principles handle it from here on out unless we need to find another home for the Archives.
Nancy
--- On Fri, 8/1/08, Martin Waxman <martin@waxman.net> wrote:
> From: Martin Waxman <martin@waxman.net>
> Subject: [Tango-L] Update on saving the Tango-L archives
> To: "tango-l" <tango-l@mit.edu>
> Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 4:15 PM
> Below is my current correspondence with U of Oregon.
> We might be able to save the archives.
>
> =========================================
> From: "Jon K. Miyake" <miyake@uoregon.edu>
> To: Martin Waxman <martin@waxman.net>,
> sghuter@uoregon.edu
> Subject: Re: Tango-L Archive
>
> I (Marty)wrote:
> Jon,
> Does a backup of the Tango-L archive exist on
> backup tapes or servers?
> If so, perhaps it can be transferred to another
> host that Tango group can set up.
> I would hate to lose all that history.
> Thanks for any help or info you can provide.
>
> Jon replied:
> If necessary it can probably be archived as a
> tar or zip file and made available.
>
> But as I am not the administrator for the
> system nor familiar with how the archive is
> being made available this is only technical
> speculation on my part.
>
> My colleague, who is responsible for the system
> hosting pythia.uoregon.edu, has Lucy Lynch's current
> contact information.
> I forwarded your initial request to him to pass
> along to Lucy. He has been cc'd on this e-mail as
> well.
> =====================================
> From: Steven Huter <sghuter@uoregon.edu>
> To: "Jon K. Miyake" <miyake@uoregon.edu>
> Subject: Re: Tango-L Archive
>
> hello martin
>
> lucy is now aware of this, and we're working with her
> on it. some
> recent upgrades to limestone may have caused this hiccup,
> so we'll
> take care of it with lucy. she is out of the country at
> IETF right
> now, so it may take a day or two.
>
> steve
>
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Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:23:05 -0300
From: Tango-L and Tango-A Administrator <tango-L-owner@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Tango-L Archives and Lucy Lynch's whereabouts?
To: tango-L@MIT.EDU
Thanks for the initiatives. I do have Lucy's contacts (thanks to Nancy
Ingle), and the archives are back online. I am following up to make sure
it is preserved. If necessary it can be moved to the server on which the
Tango-L information page (www.tango-L.com) is hosted, but it is not just
a question of moving files but also of installing the scripts that
implement the gateway, so stay tuned.
Shahrukh
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:16:06 -0300
From: Tango-L and Tango-A Administrator <tango-L-owner@MIT.EDU>
Subject: [Tango-L] ADMIN: Update on Tango-L archives
To: tango-L@MIT.EDU
Some news on the Tango-L archives (as you recall it went down a couple
of weeks ago, but came back up a few days later, but the incident raised
questions as to its long-term viability in its current location).
1. The bad news is that Lucy Lynch, who used to maintain the archives at
her University of Oregon account, is no longer with the University, and
while her account will remain active for some time longer, she will have
less control over it as time goes on, and it cannot be relied upon as a
permanent repository.
2. The good news is that it is being transferred, and to the Tango-L
website at that (at www.tango-L.com/archive/Tango-L). Currently the year
2003 archives are installed for testing (you can check it out there,
although the search function is not yet implemented locally). Probably
the rest of them will be installed in about a week, depending on time
availability.
3. The even better news is that I recently moved the Tango-L website to
a new Unix-based server (partially for this reason and partially owing
to poor support from the prior hosting company) and it appears that the
archive software can be installed to this new server, where it will work
essentially as it does now on the uoregon site. Stay tuned for more on this!
4. A longer-term project is to include all the old postings from 1995 to
the archive as well and in the same searchable format--I have these all
in my personal archives but they need to be converted into a format
suitable for web presentation and search--and it looks like this should
be possible as well.
5. Note that since May 2006, a parallel set of archives (different
software and user interface) are also being maintained by the mailman
software at mit.edu, so there is some redundancy in the system.
The Tango-A posts will also be archived in a similar way, but that's a
lower-priority project since Tango-A posts are more transitory in nature
and of more limited historical value once the event in question has
passed. However, once I've worked out the system for the Tango-L
archives, the Tango-A ones should be straightforward.
Shahrukh Merchant
Tango-L and Tango-A administrator
tango-L-owner@mit.edu
