6174  Article on Argentina


Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:28:58 -0500
From: skindance <skindance@juno.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] Article on Argentina
To: tango-l@mit.edu

Some of you may find this thia 11/23/08 Wash. Times Commentary
interesting. It is at:

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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:42:33 -0600
From: Barbara Garvey <barbara@tangobar-productions.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Article on Argentina
To: skindance <skindance@juno.com>
Cc: tango-l@mit.edu

Except for references to more recent governments, this article could
have been written in the 1980s. When we were there in 2006
the potholes and sidewalks had noticeably improved compared to the '90s.
So, they've deteriorated.again? And the villas miserias
were much in evidence in the '80s and '90s. I think they were hidden
from view on the highway from the airport sometime in the '90s
but doubt they ever disappeared. We have a close friend (non-tango) who
is a teacher and specialist in agricultural economy who
has had a very difficult time financially during most of time we've
known him (since 1990)

The article is deja vu all over again. Any comments from Tango-Listers
living for many years in
the Capital?

skindance wrote:

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>interesting. It is at:
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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:01:56 EST
From: MACFroggy@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Article on Argentina
To: barbara@tangobar-productions.com, tango-l@mit.edu

Hi Barbara,
Since you asked, here's what I posted on my blog:

I don't agree with all of Lesser's points of view, about how Argentina
(Buenos Aires) is so different from the U.S.

For example, Argentinians are ethnically similar, but tend to live in
"ethnic" barrios where they speak their original languages at home. Excuse me? What
about the Little Italys, Mexican and Cuban barrios, Little Tokyos, China Towns,
the black ghettos that still exist today, Armenian, Jewish neighborhoods
(such as Fairfax in L.A.) etc. that are found in most large U.S. cities?

His points about the increase of crime and the disappearance of the middle
class could be about any big city. He talks about two economies--one for the
rich and one for the poor. This is new?
About how school teachers and other professionals in Argentina have to work
more than one job. Hello? This has been true in the States for quite a while
now for corporations and institutions to avoid paying benefits and a standard
wage. Everyone is an "independent contractor."

But Lesser is so right about the corruption of Argentine governments, and
perhaps that's the reason for all its problems in 2008. No, the people don't plan
ahead, no, they really don't care to work very much or hard, no, they have no
hope for the future. But is it their fault?

I do agree with Lesser's conclusions. And some of his points are very
thought-provoking. It's well worth a read.


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