4753 ATM problems
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:58:10 -0300
From: Deby Novitz <dnovitz@lavidacondeby.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] ATM problems
To: tango-l@mit.edu
For those of you who wrote the list to tell those of us who live here
what your experiences were last year, two years ago, three weeks ago,
please. This situation began to happen this past week. People with
Visa debit cards were having the problem of not being able to withdraw
money from many banks here in the Capital Federal. They were denied
funds or were given only 100 pesos. The days did not matter as now even
during the week, people are still having problems. No one knows why,
there is only speculation.
This has nothing to do with the amount of funds in the ATM machines.
People denied funds on their Visa debit cards were given funds on a
Master Card debit card.
I have a Master Card debit card and there has not been the same
problem. This seems to be true of others who are using Master Card
debit cards as well. Today I had no problems using this card. If you
have a Citibank account and you use their ATMs you will also not have a
problem.
The charges from the ATM are determined by your bank, not the banks
here. I pay $1 per transaction on my paypal account and nothing for my
Citibank ATM. At this point if you are coming to Buenos Aires and your
ATM card is a Visa debit card you could potentially have problems.
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:37:34 EST
From: JOANNEPROCHASKA@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] ATM problems
To: dnovitz@lavidacondeby.com, tango-l@mit.edu
Thank you for the current report. Tim and I are going soon, and will take
this under advisement.
Joanne de Alegria
(Joanne Pogros, Cleveland, Ohio)
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:05:40 -0300
From: "Brian Dunn" <brian@danceoftheheart.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] ATM problems in BsAs - Cirrus network seems OK
To: <JOANNEPROCHASKA@aol.com>
Cc: TANGO-L <tango-l@mit.edu>
Dear list,
In Buenos Aires, Deb and I use ATMs a lot in the Palermo area. Last night I
made my usual request of 590 pesos using my VISA debit card on the Cirrus
network. (I request 590 instead of a more round number like 600 to get
smaller change than I'd otherwise get).
There were no problems.
Brian Dunn
Dance of the Heart
Boulder, Colorado USA
www.danceoftheheart.com
"Building a Better World, One Tango at a Time"
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Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:38 PM
To: dnovitz@lavidacondeby.com; tango-l@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] ATM problems
Thank you for the current report. Tim and I are going soon, and will take
this under advisement.
Joanne de Alegria
(Joanne Pogros, Cleveland, Ohio)
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:25:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Rick Jones <rwjones52@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] ATM problems in BsAs - Cirrus network seems OK
To: TANGO-L <tango-l@mit.edu>
>>From what I can tell from reading the Yahoo! and other (essentially) expat bulletin boards about the problem:
1. It was limited to Visa cards (both credit and debit) that used the Plus network and the BANELCO backbone in Buenos Aires. It appears people with Master Card and/or Cirrus network who used the LINK backbone reported limited or no problems.
2. I have been told that the BANELCO people are saying that a new Plus rule was misinterpretted, and is being fixed. However, foreigners will be limited to $300 pesos per transaction, and a maximum of 3 transactions a day. This is second-hand information, and it could be inaccurate, or it could change tomorrow.
Bottom line: you're not in Kansas anymore. If you are planning on coming here, it might be prudent to consider not putting all of your financial eggs in one basket, and to consider having a contingency plan for cash.
Rick Jones
Brian Dunn <brian@danceoftheheart.com> wrote:
Dear list,
In Buenos Aires, Deb and I use ATMs a lot in the Palermo area. Last night I
made my usual request of 590 pesos using my VISA debit card on the Cirrus
network. (I request 590 instead of a more round number like 600 to get
smaller change than I'd otherwise get).
There were no problems.
Brian Dunn
Dance of the Heart
Boulder, Colorado USA
www.danceoftheheart.com
"Building a Better World, One Tango at a Time"
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:38 PM
To: dnovitz@lavidacondeby.com; tango-l@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] ATM problems
Thank you for the current report. Tim and I are going soon, and will take
this under advisement.
Joanne de Alegria
(Joanne Pogros, Cleveland, Ohio)
AOL
now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL
at
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:18:44 +0100
From: " Christian L?then " <christian.luethen@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] ATM problems in BsAs - Cirrus network seems OK
To: tango-L@MIT.EDU
On 23 Feb 2007 at 18:25, Rick Jones wrote:
> However, foreigners will be limited to $300 pesos per transaction, and a maximum of 3 transactions a day.
this is ridicoulous! argentine economy is getting better and appearantly
the old argentine arrogance towards tourists comes out again!
instead of 1000 pesos a day it's 3x 300 now ... not making it any safer
for the tourists (actually unsafer, as they need to provide their PIN code
three times!) ....
... just to get more of their transaction fees!!!
Tourists used to be treated like that before 'the crash', and now this
starts again ...
... don't they realize that there are also very nice other travel
destinations on the world where you get less annoyed?!
Pity, Bs.As, pity!
Hope they turn into normal again soon.
Christian
