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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:45:43 -0700
From: Yale Tango Club <yaletangoclub@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: bye for now

Dear friends

I regret I have to drop off the tango-L radar for now. I'm finding it impossible to receive the emails and not get caught up in all sorts of exchanges that take up way too much time that I don't really have. It's just too tempting, I can't ignore your posts, whether I agree with them or not!
But most things worth discussing have come up at least once in the year since I joined, and I don't want to repeat myself. Besides there is another smaller friendlier forum I have to spend time on.

Thanks it was lovely hanging with you! And thanks a lot for all your nice emails.
Have a nice day
Tine
www.tangomuse.com


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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:13:53 +0100
From: Thorsten Z?rner <thorstenzoerner@gmx.de>
Subject: [Tango-L] Bye for now.
To: tango-l@mit.edu

Dear list,

this is Thorsten, tango teacher and DJ from Duesseldorf, Germany,
signing off Tango-L today.
Thank you very much for all your great contributions and links and
ideas.

It has been simmering and I am now sufficiently fed up with the way how
some members of this list prefer to interact disrespectfully with each
other.

It totally contradicts with what I find the most important concept in
tango: respect.

Cheers,
Thorsten.








Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:23:42 -0200
From: Tango-L and Tango-A Administrator <tango-L-owner@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Bye for now
To: tango-l@MIT.EDU

Future posts by "Noughts" and "Vince" are temporarily being reviewed to
ensure that they are rules-compliant. This is usually done for posts
that violate the "no flaming" rules (most other rules violations get a
warning, or are often ignored if they are minor and/or not repeated).

I hope, however, that they do continue to post, as much of the content
was otherwise informative and interesting.

As far as another reader's comment:

> It has been simmering and I am now sufficiently fed up with the way how
> some members of this list prefer to interact disrespectfully with each
> other.

Point well taken, but allow me to suggest a more constructive response
(than complaining to the list, or at least in ADDITION to complaining to
the list): Post something to the list YOURSELF that is the kind of post
you would like to see, written in the way you would like to see it
written. No better way to make the point than by example, and the list
then benefits by a well-written contribution as well.

And anyone who is reluctant to post for fear of being attacked: well,
indeed your IDEA or OPINION may very well be "attacked" (disagreed with,
perhaps strongly, though one hopes respectfully), but any PERSONAL
attack, although I cannot guarantee will never happen, will certainly be
short-lived, at least on Tango-L, and should therefore become rare.

Tango-L and Tango-A administrator
tango-L-owner@mit.edu





Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:30:51 +0100
From: Andy Ungureanu <abungureanu@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Bye for now
Cc: tango-l@mit.edu



Am 10.02.2009 21:23 schrieb Tango-L and Tango-A Administrator :

> Point well taken, but allow me to suggest a more constructive response
> (than complaining to the list, or at least in ADDITION to complaining to
> the list): Post something to the list YOURSELF that is the kind of post
> you would like to see, written in the way you would like to see it
> written. No better way to make the point than by example, and the list
> then benefits by a well-written contribution as well.
>
>

Actually, the first posting by "Noughts" was the kind of contribution I
want to see. For someone being attacked in public, he was remarkably
nice and quiet. Than he was driven in a discussion of the type "I am
right and you are wrong" and finally ended on review.
The lesson learned: Don't post anything that might be a matter of
controversy. The rest is unfortunately not worth of being posted at all :-(
Andy





From: tango-l-bounces@MIT.EDU [mailto:tango-l-bounces@MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Tango-L and Tango-A Administrator
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:24 PM
To: tango-l@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Bye for now

Future posts by "Noughts" and "Vince" are temporarily being reviewed to ensure that they are rules-compliant. This is usually done for posts that violate the "no flaming" rules (most other rules violations get a warning, or are often ignored if they are minor and/or not repeated).

I hope, however, that they do continue to post, as much of the content was otherwise informative and interesting.

As far as another reader's comment:

> It has been simmering and I am now sufficiently fed up with the way
> how some members of this list prefer to interact disrespectfully with
> each other.

Point well taken, but allow me to suggest a more constructive response (than complaining to the list, or at least in ADDITION to complaining to the list): Post something to the list YOURSELF that is the kind of post you would like to see, written in the way you would like to see it written. No better way to make the point than by example, and the list then benefits by a well-written contribution as well.

And anyone who is reluctant to post for fear of being attacked: well, indeed your IDEA or OPINION may very well be "attacked" (disagreed with, perhaps strongly, though one hopes respectfully), but any PERSONAL attack, although I cannot guarantee will never happen, will certainly be short-lived, at least on Tango-L, and should therefore become rare.

Tango-L and Tango-A administrator
tango-L-owner@mit.edu








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