3511 Conflict, or just navigation
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:42:27 -0400
From: Tanguero Chino <tanguerochino@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject: Conflict, or just navigation
Sergio Vandekier <sergiovandekier990@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>I think the same as Oleh and El Turco that there is no conflict what
>so ever [between tango styles].
The first Toronto International Tango Festival has just finished with 4 days of milongas and classes.
As in most milongas, navigation is generally more of a problem earlier during the evening. As the beginners leave or stop dancing, the navigation problem generally get better.
I do not attribute the problem with navigation to any particular style. True, fantasia and nuevo styles have more potential to be problems, but they don't have to be. At the end of the evening when the floor thins out, I've seen close embrace dancers going around the outside and fantasia and nuevo dancers on the inside, and no one getting into someone else's way.
Most of the "problems" I have come from people who don't know or ignore the general rules of navigation. The most common problem I encountered are the following:
- Beginners who cannot navigate and don't know what to do when there is no space in front of them.
- More experienced dancers racing around the dance floor and passing anyone moving slower than them, usually on the right side.
- Dancers stopping and doing figures in the outer lanes
- Dancers moving from lane to lane and not following line of dance. (Unfortunately, two of the local teachers were the worst offenders in this regard, including one that bumped into me and various others on the floor.)
I guess that covers just about anyone who does not navigate well ;-)
Teachers in all communities should emphasize navigation rules, and especially so in the classes during festivals when the milongas will have bigger than usual attendance.
The only thing that I can see a milonga host can do to lessen navigation problems is NOT to make the dance floor too big. I believe a smaller dance floor contains the energy, and encourages better navigational behavior. Confronting bad navigators should not be done, unless the person becames dangerous.
May we all flow to the music at the same pace.
TC
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Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:15:11 -0400
From: Richard deSousa <mallpasso@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Conflict, or just navigation
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Sent: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:42:27 -0400
Subject: [TANGO-L] Conflict, or just navigation
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>Most of the "problems" I have come from people who don't know or
ignore the
>general rules of navigation. The most common problem I encountered
are the
>following:
>- Beginners who cannot navigate and don't know what to do when there
is no space
>in front of them.
>- More experienced dancers racing around the dance floor and passing
anyone
>moving slower than them, usually on the right side.
>- Dancers stopping and doing figures in the outer lanes
>- Dancers moving from lane to lane and not following line of dance.
>(Unfortunately, two of the local teachers were the worst offenders in
this
>regard, including one that bumped into me and various others on the
floor.)
>I guess that covers just about anyone who does not navigate well ;-)
My two cents worth:
In my experiences, since I dance nearly exclusively in the outer lane,
the most prevalent violations are experienced leaders who invade the
outer lane (i.e., cutting in and out from the center). This drives me
absolutely crazy!! There are too few instructors who teach navigation
skills so perhaps this should be priority!!
El Bandito de Tango
>May we all flow to the music at the same pace.
>TC
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