3112  Another female view of closed eyes

Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:40:30 -0600
From: Melanie Eskoff <melanieeskoff@AUSTIN.RR.COM>
Subject: Another female view of closed eyes

The comment about "pretty faces" had nothing to do with the interior experience of the follower, but was simply another attempt to put down =
non close embrace dancing. When I close my eyes it can mean many things. Could be, I'm comfortable with my partner and trust him. Could =
be, I'm not comfortable with him and find his lead unclear. Maybe, because I'm pretty sure that nothing much is going to happen. =
Hopefully, because something new and exciting is happening in this particular leaders close embrace and I don't want to miss it! Or, =
because this particular song positively transports me! I shut them when I "trust" the navigation of the room that night, otherwise I keep them =
open. When I dance in a very open embrace, my face doesn't necessarily become any more "tight and straight" than it would in any other embrace =
if I were focused and dancing challenging options that I'd never experienced. Don't let a serious focused expression belie the thrill of =
the ride and a "pretty" face could simply mean that the followers feet were fatigued and she was grateful for a simple nonchallenging dance. A =
furrowed brow could be the way that particular follower listens and a sweet smile could reflect her feelings about the leader as a man in whom =
she's personally interested and have absolutely nothing to do with his vertical dance.

I have be subscribing for a couple of weeks. All this carping is really too much. Generalizations and opinions offered not as insight, but to =
wound and denigrate are never appreciated and seldom offer much truth. Astrid, please flirt with Derik using personal email.

Sergio & Burak, thanks very much for your recent interesting and generous comments on tango styles.

ME
melanieeskoff@austin.rr.com

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:21:18 -0800
From: Derik Rawson <rawsonweb@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Another female view of closed eyes

Dear Melanie: I agree with you about Sergios comments
about the various styles of tango. His posting was
great. I also really like your comments about how you
are feeling when you dance. Looking for to meeting you
and dancing a tango soon. You sound like a fun person
with a great spirit. Derik
--- TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
<melanieeskoff@AUSTIN.RR.COM> wrote:

> The comment about "pretty faces" had nothing to do

with the interior

> experience of the follower, but was simply another

attempt to put down

> non close embrace dancing. When I close my eyes it

can mean many

> things. Could be, I'm comfortable with my partner

and trust him. Could

> be, I'm not comfortable with him and find his lead

unclear. Maybe,

> because I'm pretty sure that nothing much is going

to happen.

> Hopefully, because something new and exciting is

happening in this

> particular leaders close embrace and I don't want to

miss it! Or,

> because this particular song positively transports

me! I shut them when

> I "trust" the navigation of the room that night,

otherwise I keep them

> open. When I dance in a very open embrace, my face

doesn't necessarily

> become any more "tight and straight" than it would

in any other embrace

> if I were focused and dancing challenging options

that I'd never

> experienced. Don't let a serious focused expression

belie the thrill of

> the ride and a "pretty" face could simply mean

that the followers feet

> were fatigued and she was grateful for a simple

nonchallenging dance. A

> furrowed brow could be the way that particular

follower listens and a

> sweet smile could reflect her feelings about the

leader as a man in whom

> she's personally interested and have absolutely

nothing to do with his

> vertical dance.
>
> I have be subscribing for a couple of weeks. All

this carping is really

> too much. Generalizations and opinions offered not

as insight, but to

> wound and denigrate are never appreciated and seldom

offer much truth.

> Astrid, please flirt with Derik using personal

email.

>
> Sergio & Burak, thanks very much for your recent

interesting and

> generous comments on tango styles.
>
> ME
> melanieeskoff@austin.rr.com

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:50:36 +0000
From: herve michel <herve_michel1@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Another female view of closed eyes

I think with a lot of dances it's about trust and about 'surrendering.'

One is never sure but if one does not trust....

the dancer and the dance can become one. I's a little bit like 'go' if one
plays constantly and long enough he 'game' plays you.

ditto in relationships and in tango. Synchronize..take a chance...have
faith...but there must also be a threshold of 'understanding'

Herve


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>Dear Melanie: I agree with you about Sergios comments
>about the various styles of tango. His posting was
>great. I also really like your comments about how you
>are feeling when you dance. Looking for to meeting you
>and dancing a tango soon. You sound like a fun person
>with a great spirit. Derik
>--- TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
><melanieeskoff@AUSTIN.RR.COM> wrote:
> > The comment about "pretty faces" had nothing to do
>with the interior
> > experience of the follower, but was simply another
>attempt to put down
> > non close embrace dancing. When I close my eyes it
>can mean many
> > things. Could be, I'm comfortable with my partner
>and trust him. Could
> > be, I'm not comfortable with him and find his lead
>unclear. Maybe,
> > because I'm pretty sure that nothing much is going
>to happen.
> > Hopefully, because something new and exciting is
>happening in this
> > particular leaders close embrace and I don't want to
>miss it! Or,
> > because this particular song positively transports
>me! I shut them when
> > I "trust" the navigation of the room that night,
>otherwise I keep them
> > open. When I dance in a very open embrace, my face
>doesn't necessarily
> > become any more "tight and straight" than it would
>in any other embrace
> > if I were focused and dancing challenging options
>that I'd never
> > experienced. Don't let a serious focused expression
>belie the thrill of
> > the ride and a "pretty" face could simply mean
>that the followers feet
> > were fatigued and she was grateful for a simple
>nonchallenging dance. A
> > furrowed brow could be the way that particular
>follower listens and a
> > sweet smile could reflect her feelings about the
>leader as a man in whom
> > she's personally interested and have absolutely
>nothing to do with his
> > vertical dance.
> >
> > I have be subscribing for a couple of weeks. All
>this carping is really
> > too much. Generalizations and opinions offered not
>as insight, but to
> > wound and denigrate are never appreciated and seldom
>offer much truth.
> > Astrid, please flirt with Derik using personal
>email.
> >
> > Sergio & Burak, thanks very much for your recent
>interesting and
> > generous comments on tango styles.
> >
> > ME
> > melanieeskoff@austin.rr.com
>
>