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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:01:12 -0800
From: Patricio Touceda <tangueros2001@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: The guy with two women

Hi Philiph:
The video you are talking about is part of the movie
TANGO by Carlos Saura.
The dancers are
Carlos Rivarola, Cecilia Narova and Mia Meastro.
Very nice scene of the movie.

You can rent the video, there are a lot more tangos on it.
Bye!!!

Patricio Touceda
www.tangonetwork.com




Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 14:23:01 -0800
From: Philip Seyer <philipseyer@ILOVEMUSIC.COM>
Subject: Re: The guy with two women

Thanks everyone for help on the scene from Tango by Carlos Saura.
I discovered that the music is written by Lao Schifrin (born in Argentina in
1932). Lao studied at the Paris Conservatory and was influenced by jazz.
Perhaps that helps to explain the extensive use of syncopation in his tango
music. Mr. Schifrin settled in Hollywood in 1964. The movie Tango came out
in 1998.


Phil Seyer
https://www.argentine-tango.com

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Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 7:01 PM
Subject: [TANGO-L] The guy with two women


> Hi Philiph:
> The video you are talking about is part of the movie
> TANGO by Carlos Saura.
> The dancers are
> Carlos Rivarola, Cecilia Narova and Mia Meastro.
> Very nice scene of the movie.
>
> You can rent the video, there are a lot more tangos on it.
> Bye!!!
>
> Patricio Touceda
> www.tangonetwork.com





Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:10:10 -0800
From: Patricio Touceda <tangueros2001@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: The guy with two women

Yes. Everything you said about the musician is truth.
But to make easier for you to find info about him,
id like to tell you that his name is LALO and not Lao.
Just a simple correction.
I has been writing music for many movies, not only tango.

BYE!!

Patricio

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Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] The guy with two women


> Thanks everyone for help on the scene from Tango by Carlos Saura.
> I discovered that the music is written by Lao Schifrin (born in Argentina

in

> 1932). Lao studied at the Paris Conservatory and was influenced by jazz.
> Perhaps that helps to explain the extensive use of syncopation in his

tango

> music. Mr. Schifrin settled in Hollywood in 1964. The movie Tango came

out

> in 1998.
>
>
> Phil Seyer
> https://www.argentine-tango.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patricio Touceda" <tangueros2001@HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: <TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 7:01 PM
> Subject: [TANGO-L] The guy with two women
>
>
> > Hi Philiph:
> > The video you are talking about is part of the movie
> > TANGO by Carlos Saura.
> > The dancers are
> > Carlos Rivarola, Cecilia Narova and Mia Meastro.
> > Very nice scene of the movie.
> >
> > You can rent the video, there are a lot more tangos on it.
> > Bye!!!
> >
> > Patricio Touceda
> > www.tangonetwork.com
>
>





Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:40:56 -0500
From: Antonio Cervila Junior <junior@CERVILA.COM>
Subject: Re: The guy with two women

> Talking about syncopation, do you know the music of Mission Impossible???
> That's Lalo Shifrin.
> He is a great composer.
> Carlos Saura's film is very good. The photography by Victorio Storaro is

the

> best, but the killer at the end, sucks.
> The film was nominee for best foreign picture for the Academy Awards in
> 1998. When "Life is Beautiful" won.
>
>
>
> Junior
> www.latindancecarnival.com
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip Seyer" <philipseyer@ILOVEMUSIC.COM>
> To: <TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] The guy with two women
>
>
> > Thanks everyone for help on the scene from Tango by Carlos Saura.
> > I discovered that the music is written by Lao Schifrin (born in

Argentina

> in
> > 1932). Lao studied at the Paris Conservatory and was influenced by jazz.
> > Perhaps that helps to explain the extensive use of syncopation in his
> tango
> > music. Mr. Schifrin settled in Hollywood in 1964. The movie Tango came
> out
> > in 1998.
> >
> >
> > Phil Seyer
> > https://www.argentine-tango.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patricio Touceda" <tangueros2001@HOTMAIL.COM>
> > To: <TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 7:01 PM
> > Subject: [TANGO-L] The guy with two women
> >
> >
> > > Hi Philiph:
> > > The video you are talking about is part of the movie
> > > TANGO by Carlos Saura.
> > > The dancers are
> > > Carlos Rivarola, Cecilia Narova and Mia Meastro.
> > > Very nice scene of the movie.
> > >
> > > You can rent the video, there are a lot more tangos on it.
> > > Bye!!!
> > >
> > > Patricio Touceda
> > > www.tangonetwork.com
> >
> >
> >
>




Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 00:45:38 +0900
From: astrid <astrid@RUBY.PLALA.OR.JP>
Subject: Re: The guy with two women

Yes. Only, Schifrin's first name is not Lao, it is Lalo.

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From: "Philip Seyer" Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] The guy with two women


> Thanks everyone for help on the scene from Tango by Carlos Saura.
> I discovered that the music is written by Lao Schifrin (born in Argentina

in

> 1932). Lao studied at the Paris Conservatory and was influenced by jazz.
> Perhaps that helps to explain the extensive use of syncopation in his

tango

> music. Mr. Schifrin settled in Hollywood in 1964. The movie Tango came

out

> in 1998.
>




Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:43:58 -0800
From: David Hodgson <DHodgson@TANGO777.COM>
Subject: Re: The guy with two women

"but the killer at the end, sucks."

Now that is funny!!!!!!!!!!!!
David~

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Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 3:41 AM
To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] The guy with two women


> Talking about syncopation, do you know the music of Mission Impossible???
> That's Lalo Shifrin.
> He is a great composer.
> Carlos Saura's film is very good. The photography by Victorio Storaro is

the

> best, but the killer at the end, sucks.
> The film was nominee for best foreign picture for the Academy Awards in
> 1998. When "Life is Beautiful" won.
>
>
>
> Junior
> www.latindancecarnival.com
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip Seyer" <philipseyer@ILOVEMUSIC.COM>
> To: <TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] The guy with two women
>
>
> > Thanks everyone for help on the scene from Tango by Carlos Saura.
> > I discovered that the music is written by Lao Schifrin (born in

Argentina

> in
> > 1932). Lao studied at the Paris Conservatory and was influenced by jazz.
> > Perhaps that helps to explain the extensive use of syncopation in his
> tango
> > music. Mr. Schifrin settled in Hollywood in 1964. The movie Tango came
> out
> > in 1998.
> >
> >
> > Phil Seyer
> > https://www.argentine-tango.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patricio Touceda" <tangueros2001@HOTMAIL.COM>
> > To: <TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 7:01 PM
> > Subject: [TANGO-L] The guy with two women
> >
> >
> > > Hi Philiph:
> > > The video you are talking about is part of the movie
> > > TANGO by Carlos Saura.
> > > The dancers are
> > > Carlos Rivarola, Cecilia Narova and Mia Meastro.
> > > Very nice scene of the movie.
> > >
> > > You can rent the video, there are a lot more tangos on it.
> > > Bye!!!
> > >
> > > Patricio Touceda
> > > www.tangonetwork.com
> >
> >
> >
>




Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 14:16:47 -0800
From: Patricio Touceda <tangueros2001@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: The guy with two women

Hello Mr. Junior:
Im sorry to tell you, but i dont agree with you.
Quite the oposite i think the killer at the end of the movie is great!
He brings understanding and real drama to the story. Plus he moves the knife
so graceful.
Its easy to see, he has to be an accomplished dancer to move his body and
"kill" so gracefuly.
And a good actor, look his eyes right before he pushes the knife into her
body. He has passion.
I dont think i saw that face b4. But im sure i will, in tango or non-tango
movies.

Have a nice day Mr Junior and the rest of the list.


Bye.






----- Original Message -----



Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] The guy with two women


> > Talking about syncopation, do you know the music of Mission

Impossible???

> > That's Lalo Shifrin.
> > He is a great composer.
> > Carlos Saura's film is very good. The photography by Victorio Storaro is
> the
> > best, but the killer at the end, sucks.
> > The film was nominee for best foreign picture for the Academy Awards in
> > 1998. When "Life is Beautiful" won.
> >
> >
> >
> > Junior
> > www.latindancecarnival.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Philip Seyer" <philipseyer@ILOVEMUSIC.COM>
> > To: <TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 5:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] The guy with two women
> >
> >
> > > Thanks everyone for help on the scene from Tango by Carlos Saura.
> > > I discovered that the music is written by Lao Schifrin (born in
> Argentina
> > in
> > > 1932). Lao studied at the Paris Conservatory and was influenced by

jazz.

> > > Perhaps that helps to explain the extensive use of syncopation in his
> > tango
> > > music. Mr. Schifrin settled in Hollywood in 1964. The movie Tango

came

> > out
> > > in 1998.
> > >
> > >
> > > Phil Seyer
> > > https://www.argentine-tango.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Patricio Touceda" <tangueros2001@HOTMAIL.COM>
> > > To: <TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 7:01 PM
> > > Subject: [TANGO-L] The guy with two women
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Philiph:
> > > > The video you are talking about is part of the movie
> > > > TANGO by Carlos Saura.
> > > > The dancers are
> > > > Carlos Rivarola, Cecilia Narova and Mia Meastro.
> > > > Very nice scene of the movie.
> > > >
> > > > You can rent the video, there are a lot more tangos on it.
> > > > Bye!!!
> > > >
> > > > Patricio Touceda
> > > > www.tangonetwork.com
> > >
> >
> > > send "subscribe Tango-A Firstname Lastname" to

LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.

> >
> > >
> > >
> >
>




Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:53:59 +0900
From: astrid <astrid@RUBY.PLALA.OR.JP>
Subject: Re: The guy with two women

Antonio Cervila Junior:

> > Carlos Saura's film is very good. The photography by Victorio Storaro is
> the
> > best, but the killer at the end, sucks.
> >

Patricio answered:
Hello Mr. Junior:
Im sorry to tell you, but i dont agree with you.
Quite the oposite i think the killer at the end of the movie is great!
He brings understanding and real drama to the story. Plus he moves the knife
so graceful.
Its easy to see, he has to be an accomplished dancer to move his body and
"kill" so gracefuly.
And a good actor, look his eyes right before he pushes the knife into her
body. He has passion.
I dont think i saw that face b4. But im sure i will, in tango or non-tango
movies.


Dear Junior,
since you are the one who played the killer in that movie, could you please
answer a puzzling question that me and my friends have been wondering about
ever since we saw that movie "Tango":
Does he kill her or does he not kill her?
(he moves the knife, gracefully or not, whatever, she falls, everyone
watching, incl. the director, screams in terror, and then she gets up again
and walks away. Another Saura work of blending reality and fiction, just
like in "Carmen")


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