1288 NUMBER OF LA CUMPARSITA VERSIONS
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:46:29 -0300
From: Ruben Carlos Terbalca <rubenmilonga@SINECTIS.COM.AR>
Subject: NUMBER OF LA CUMPARSITA VERSIONS
In 1998 existed around 1000 recorded versions of "La Cumparsita"
Today around 1300 versions .
I checked my assumption with the most important collectors and historians
in the world (in Buenos Aires).
By testimony documents was the tango premier in 1917 April 19.- Cafe "La
Giralda"-Montevideo -Uruguay (Firpo)
By other versions , the premier was in 1916 (could be the student carnival
march version)????
Any way, you can find the musical nucleous of "La Cumparsita " in other
previous (1912) tango of Firpo "La Gaucha Manuela" recorded for Juan Maglio
"Pacho". (In C.D.="EL BANDONEON DE PACHO" ---el bandoneon -SWITZERLAND)
Ruben Milonga
Buenos Aires
Former Teacher from the " Tango University of Buenos Aires" (1993-1996)
Milonguero. ( Dancing since 1956 )
Tango Historian
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 09:50:22 -0700
From: Tango Guy <tangomundo55@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: NUMBER OF LA CUMPARSITA VERSIONS
Thanks for the information Ruben. I didn't realize there are so many versions. Apparently "La Cumparsita" has become extra popular since 1998 with 300 more versions. It's a good finale for a milonga because it leaves dancers with a good feeling. There is something about "La Cumparsita" that says everything is OK. That the universe is in good order. Even the English meaning "The Little Carnival Procession" seems to convey this message. It is also very easy to dance to with no demands on the dancers. They can feel romantic and connected with their lover. No wonder it is so popular. I wonder what was in the souls of Rodriguez and Firpo when they created the song. It would be interesting to know.
Ruben Carlos Terbalca <rubenmilonga@SINECTIS.COM.AR> wrote:
In 1998 existed around 1000 recorded versions of "La Cumparsita"
Today around 1300 versions .
I checked my assumption with the most important collectors and historians
in the world (in Buenos Aires).
By testimony documents was the tango premier in 1917 April 19.- Cafe "La
Giralda"-Montevideo -Uruguay (Firpo)
By other versions , the premier was in 1916 (could be the student carnival
march version)????
Any way, you can find the musical nucleous of "La Cumparsita " in other
previous (1912) tango of Firpo "La Gaucha Manuela" recorded for Juan Maglio
"Pacho". (In C.D.="EL BANDONEON DE PACHO" ---el bandoneon -SWITZERLAND)
Ruben Milonga
Buenos Aires
Former Teacher from the " Tango University of Buenos Aires" (1993-1996)
Milonguero. ( Dancing since 1956 )
Tango Historian
----- Original Message -----
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 16:43:18 -0300
From: Ruben Carlos Terbalca <rubenmilonga@SINECTIS.COM.AR>
Subject: Re: "twin fingers" NUMBER OF LA CUMPARSITA VERSIONS
Thanks to your email I realized my mistake (twin fingers)
1998 was wrong .---The right date was.....till 1988 = 1000 recorded
versions.after 300 more.
excuse my mistake.
Ruben Milonga
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Sent: Saturday, 17 de May de 2003 1:50 p.m.
Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] NUMBER OF LA CUMPARSITA VERSIONS
> Thanks for the information Ruben. I didn't realize there are so many
versions. Apparently "La Cumparsita" has become extra popular since 1998
with 300 more versions. It's a good finale for a milonga because it leaves
dancers with a good feeling. There is something about "La Cumparsita" that
says everything is OK. That the universe is in good order. Even the English
meaning "The Little Carnival Procession" seems to convey this message. It is
also very easy to dance to with no demands on the dancers. They can feel
romantic and connected with their lover. No wonder it is so popular. I
wonder what was in the souls of Rodriguez and Firpo when they created the
song. It would be interesting to know.
>
> Ruben Carlos Terbalca <rubenmilonga@SINECTIS.COM.AR> wrote:
> In 1998 existed around 1000 recorded versions of "La Cumparsita"
> Today around 1300 versions .
> I checked my assumption with the most important collectors and historians
> in the world (in Buenos Aires).
>
> By testimony documents was the tango premier in 1917 April 19.- Cafe "La
> Giralda"-Montevideo -Uruguay (Firpo)
> By other versions , the premier was in 1916 (could be the student carnival
> march version)????
> Any way, you can find the musical nucleous of "La Cumparsita " in other
> previous (1912) tango of Firpo "La Gaucha Manuela" recorded for Juan
Maglio
> "Pacho". (In C.D.="EL BANDONEON DE PACHO" ---el bandoneon -SWITZERLAND)
>
> Ruben Milonga
> Buenos Aires
> Former Teacher from the " Tango University of Buenos Aires" (1993-1996)
> Milonguero. ( Dancing since 1956 )
> Tango Historian
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tango Guy"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, 12 de May de 2003 6:31 p.m.
> Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] The Festival links
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> > There are over 200 versions of La Cumparsita making it the most popular
> tango tune ever. It was originally written by Gerardo Hernan Matos
Rodriquez
> of Uraguay as a march tune for his school (I think about 1907 or so). Then
> Roberto Firpo recognizing its tango potential, arraigned it as a tango. I
> have never heard it as the original tune by Rodriquez. Has anyone else?
> FYITango Guy
> >
> > Christian_L|then wrote:On 12 May 2003 at
> 17:01, Keith Elshaw wrote:
> >
> > > Did you hear about the guy who collects every La Cumparsita ever
> > > recorded?
> >
> > no, tell us more, please!
> > how many different versions are there?
> >
> > christian
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> > christian@eTanguero.net
> > https://www.eTanguero.net/
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 16:44:48 -0300
From: Ruben Carlos Terbalca <rubenmilonga@SINECTIS.COM.AR>
Subject: Re: NUMBER OF LA CUMPARSITA VERSIONS
Thank you very much for your email.
In the first question some of the list members mentioned Matos Rodriguez,
and I didn't want to repeat, but thanks again for your helpful
clarification.
Please, check the premier date, because here we, the professional tango
research people have the documents and testimonies
It's a great privilege to me , just a milonguero dancer in Buenos Aires
since 1956 and a Tango Historian, that you share so much knowledge with me.
By the way, you surely noticed I did a wrong typing, it should be 1988
instead of 1998 .....
just
buenos aires
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Sent: Friday, 16 de May de 2003 1:31 a.m.
Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] NUMBER OF LA CUMPARSITA VERSIONS
> La Cumparsita was composed first as a March but was premiered as a
> Tango, as you said, by the Cuarteto of Roberto Firpo, at "La Giralda",
> Montevideo, Uruguay. That was in February 1917, during the Carnaval. Matos
> Rodriguez composed it first as a carnaval march, but knowing later
Firpo
> was coming to town, he arranged it as a Tango and ask Maestro Firpo to be
> the first to play it. The first one to recorded it, however, was the
> Uruguayan orchestra Alonso-Minnotto.
>
>
> El Mundo
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ruben Carlos Terbalca" <rubenmilonga@sinectis.com.ar>
> To: <TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:46 AM
> Subject: [TANGO-L] NUMBER OF LA CUMPARSITA VERSIONS
>
>
> > In 1998 existed around 1000 recorded versions of "La Cumparsita"
> > Today around 1300 versions .
> > I checked my assumption with the most important collectors and
historians
> > in the world (in Buenos Aires).
> >
> > By testimony documents was the tango premier in 1917 April 19.- Cafe
"La
> > Giralda"-Montevideo -Uruguay (Firpo)
> > By other versions , the premier was in 1916 (could be the student
carnival
> > march version)????
> > Any way, you can find the musical nucleous of "La Cumparsita " in other
> > previous (1912) tango of Firpo "La Gaucha Manuela" recorded for Juan
> Maglio
> > "Pacho". (In C.D.="EL BANDONEON DE PACHO" ---el
bandoneon -SWITZERLAND)
> >
> > Ruben Milonga
> > Buenos Aires
> > Former Teacher from the " Tango University of Buenos Aires" (1993-1996)
> > Milonguero. ( Dancing since 1956 )
> > Tango Historian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tango Guy" <tangomundo55@YAHOO.COM>
> > To: <TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> > Sent: Monday, 12 de May de 2003 6:31 p.m.
> > Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] The Festival links
> >
> >
> > > There are over 200 versions of La Cumparsita making it the most
popular
> > tango tune ever. It was originally written by Gerardo Hernan Matos
> Rodriquez
> > of Uraguay as a march tune for his school (I think about 1907 or so).
Then
> > Roberto Firpo recognizing its tango potential, arraigned it as a tango.
I
> > have never heard it as the original tune by Rodriquez. Has anyone else?
> > FYITango Guy
> > >
> > > Christian_L|then <christian.luethen@GMX.NET> wrote:On 12 May 2003 at
> > 17:01, Keith Elshaw wrote:
> > >
> > > > Did you hear about the guy who collects every La Cumparsita ever
> > > > recorded?
> > >
> > > no, tell us more, please!
> > > how many different versions are there?
> > >
> > > christian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > christian@eTanguero.net
> > > https://www.eTanguero.net/
> > >
> >
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
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