2238 Oh No! the dreaded BO
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:19:55 +1300
From: "bob.ramsey-turner" <bob.ramsey-turner@QUICKSILVER.NET.NZ>
Subject: Oh No! the dreaded BO
Top of the summer here in Auckland New Zealand. The dreaded Body Odour has shown up recently. Has anyone got a prepared, politically =
sensitive, script that can be passed out at classes?
Thanks for your help
Bob
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:26:35 -0800
From: Ilona Koren-Deutsch <ilonakd@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Oh No! the dreaded BO
There's a pretty good one here:
https://www.tangochicago.com/pages_html/etiquitte1.htm
Also this paragraph appears (without credit) on
several websites. No idea who wrote it:
Last but not least: Argentine Tango is an intimate and
elegant dance. For a pleasant experience, good hygiene
is essential; bathe before lessons or dancing and use
deodorant. Use breath fresheners frequently. No or
minimal talking while dancing; focus on dancing and
floor traffic. Hold off on the aftershave and perfume.
Some people are sensitive to them. If you perspire,
use a towel or handkerchief often. People as a rule
don't like dance partners that are walking wet towels
(in the literal sense.) So men, if you perspire
heavily, use a towel, take a break and cool down,
bring an extra shirt, and change into it at halftime.
This is social dance, go to the track if you want an
aerobic workout. If you wear glasses, consider contact
lenses or removing your glasses while dancing unless
you can't see where you're dancing. Getting whacked in
the head with someone glasses as they turn their head
is not pleasant.
One last thing, PLEASE, no jeans, sweat shirts, tennis
shoes, or other similar causal attire when you take
lessons or go to a dance. Tango is an elegant dance,
dress up.
-Ilona
--- "bob.ramsey-turner"
<bob.ramsey-turner@QUICKSILVER.NET.NZ> wrote:
> Top of the summer here in Auckland New Zealand. The
> dreaded Body Odour has shown up recently. Has
> anyone got a prepared, politically sensitive, script
> that can be passed out at classes?
> Thanks for your help
>
> Bob
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:21:59 -0600
From: Bibi Wong <bibibwong@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Oh No! the dreaded BO
Ilona, Bob and members
I think Bob was looking for a way to TELL the partner directly about the BO
problem. The article will not do any good if the person does not read it,
or read and disregard it thinking that is not his/her problem.
I never expressed that before (may be because I chose to avoid that person
instead), but for garlic breath, I had a few times saying, "wow, you must
have eaten a nice meal earlier, wish I know where you had your dinner, where
do you have it? "..."I love garlic myself too, I will try that restaurant/
dish sometimes, but you know, I don't want to torture my partner with my
garlic breath. May be you want to try my trick of <xyz> next time you have
a lot of garlic before dancing tango..."
So can that sentence be twisted to fit BO?
Word of caution: I am NOT known for diplomacy in the dance community :-)
Bibi
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:41:20 -0800
From: Elemer Dubrovay <dubrovay@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Oh No! the dreaded BO
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:19:55 +1300 "bob.ramsey-turner"
<bob.ramsey-turner@QUICKSILVER.NET.NZ> writes:
> Top of the summer here in Auckland New Zealand. The dreaded Body
> Odour has shown up recently. Has anyone got a prepared, politically
> sensitive, script that can be passed out at classes?
> Thanks for your help
>
> Bob
I found this one. Elemer in Redmond.
By Susana Miller.
The presence of a person entails the perception of looks, touch and
smell. Attraction or rejection depend mainly on smell, since the
perception of beauty can flee as quickly as it appeared if anything goes
awry with the olfactory sense. If someone has a delightful smell, it
gives him or her a less strident magnetism than looks, but one that is
still very intense.
When we go dancing we must pay attention to this. It is very unpleasant
to be near an unclean body or smelly garments. The safest thing to do
after a working day--and to show some respect for your neighbors--is:
1. Take a good shower, which is little trouble. And wear clean clothes,
which is also not a bother.
2. Don't turn your nose up a using a deodorant. Some foreigners resist
the use of chemicals on their bodies, but-far from touching on an ecology
issue here-please be aware that we are not in the middle of the woods
frolicking nude, while the fresh air cleans us. We are in the middle of a
milonga, that is, a stifling jungle with little oxygen, lots of smoke and
too many people.
3. Shampoo your hair. Hair is live tissue and, as such, subject to
perspiration just as much as the body.
4. To the French, German and Dutch girls: s'il vous plait, bitte, please
shave your underarms. These hairy areas store personal odor, which can be
quite natural and attractive in the right place and the right moment, but
at the milonga it will only help to frighten people away.
5. Brush your teeth, and, if needed, try a mint or a chewing gum.
Sometimes the lack of personal cleanliness is a slap in the face for our
dance partner that leaves him or her speechless. Picking your nose is as
offensive as burping aloud, so please don't act dumb.
There are only a few requirements that essential to personal cleanliness
and they are far easier to learn than dancing. So, GO TAKE A BATH, and
then go straight to the milonga.
Art publish in "El Tangauta"
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:46:15 -0700
From: Tom Stermitz <Stermitz@TANGO.ORG>
Subject: Re: Oh No! the dreaded BO
>On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:19:55 +1300 "bob.ramsey-turner"
><bob.ramsey-turner@QUICKSILVER.NET.NZ> writes:
> Top of the summer here in Auckland New Zealand. The dreaded Body
> Odour has shown up recently. Has anyone got a prepared, politically
> sensitive, script that can be passed out at classes?
> Thanks for your help
>
> Bob
I lost a student once when I brought it up with him. He got fairly
defensive. My mistake was letting it go on too long. When I brought
the subject up a couple times to the whole class, he didn't believe
it applied to him. But, in the end, I was losing so many students due
to this single person, that it was tell him to change or shut down
the class. Maybe if I had been immediately proactive, he would have
changed early on, before the embarrassment or defensiveness built up
too much.
Of course, teachers face similar problems of students who are
offensive in other ways. Sometimes it is specific behavior like
aggressive attention to another student, but sometimes it isn't even
objectively offensive, they just feel creepy or talk too much or are
otherwise anti-social.
On the positive side.
Sometimes all it takes is one comment, such as "Remember, this is a
close dance. If you want her to dance close with you again, take care
of all these things: Bath, fresh shirt, etc..."
Watch the men who get it with a single comment. These are the same
guys who lead nicely, take care of the woman's balance, change shoes
mid-milonga to escort her to the car in the parking lot, and have
pride in improving the quality of their dancing.
--
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