1549  Flights of fancy

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:44:27 EDT
From: Charles Roques <Crrtango@AOL.COM>
Subject: Flights of fancy

re Rick's "notes..."

I would prefer, as would others evidently, that Rick stick to reporting his
actual tango experiences or the like rather than his past or present flights of
literary fancy. For people who haven't been there, it is very misleading and
not always funny to those of us who have been there. I am also of one mind
with MIchael Walker about appropriating famous names just for the humor of it. In
fact one of the unscrupulous aspects of "El Pibe" (among several) is his
"borrowing" of the reference to Pepito Avellaneda. He is not particularly
appreciated in Bs As. for having done so, especially by people who knew Pepito. Not to
mention he is nowhere near the dancer that Pepito was.

La mas guacha said: <<I want to see some action in "Notes from Buenos Aires
12" Quit whining about yourself and give us some good dirt on El Pibe which you
alluded to earlier
but did not deliver.>>

As to Rick supplying us with more dirt about him, I don't think he should
contribute unless he knows him better or has solid information which I doubt he
has. Some of us do actually know El Pibe, and the dirt. I know him not only
from personal experience from his two visits to New York (the first studio where
he gave workshops in NYC was where I also taught at the time) but I also saw
him and spoke to him a number of times in Buenos Aires when I was there. But
there are also others who for some reason managed to avoid seeing that side of
him, so unless you know what you are talking about, I think it would be better
to avoid this subject. There are enough unsavory elements to it without
hearsay being added to it. One will find out soon enough that the tango world is
very small, at least the connection between New York and Buenos Aires.

as Rick himself said "What does all this have to do with tango in BsAs?
Nothing. "

Exactly, so spare us. Your reportage was interesting and informative up until
the last few posts. In fact I would advise most readers to ignore those. They
are not only incorrect but highly subjective as well. I for one had some very
good corn empanadas, no meat, with a light delicate crust, broiled fish
dinners with light cream sauce, good pastas, and even some good Indian food while
there. Not to mention pastries and chocolates. Much of what Rick says about the
smoking, etiquette, etc, is true but it is hard to distinguish from the
fictional "firuletes" he throws in.

Cheers,
Charles

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:01:34 -0300
From: la guacha <lamasguacha@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Flights of fancy

>re Rick's "notes..."
>
>I would prefer, as would others evidently, that Rick stick to reporting his
>actual tango experiences or the like rather than his past or present
>flights of
>literary fancy. For people who haven't been there, it is very misleading
>and
>not always funny to those of us who have been there. I am also of one mind
>with MIchael Walker about appropriating famous names just for the humor of
>it. In
>fact one of the unscrupulous aspects of "El Pibe" (among several) is his
>"borrowing" of the reference to Pepito Avellaneda. He is not particularly
>appreciated in Bs As. for having done so, especially by people who knew
>Pepito. Not to
>mention he is nowhere near the dancer that Pepito was.

Thank you Charles for the good dirt!

>As to Rick supplying us with more dirt about him, I don't think he should
>contribute unless he knows him better or has solid information which I
>doubt he
>has. Some of us do actually know El Pibe, and the dirt. I know him not only
>from personal experience from his two visits to New York (the first studio
>where
>he gave workshops in NYC was where I also taught at the time) but I also
>saw
>him and spoke to him a number of times in Buenos Aires when I was there.
>But
>there are also others who for some reason managed to avoid seeing that
>side of
>him, so unless you know what you are talking about, I think it would be
>better
>to avoid this subject. There are enough unsavory elements to it without
>hearsay being added to it. One will find out soon enough that the tango
>world is
>very small, at least the connection between New York and Buenos Aires.
>
>as Rick himself said "What does all this have to do with tango in BsAs?
>Nothing. "

and thank you for keeping me in check.

>
>Exactly, so spare us. Your reportage was interesting and informative up
>until
>the last few posts. In fact I would advise most readers to ignore those.
>They
>are not only incorrect but highly subjective as well. I for one had some
>very
>good corn empanadas, no meat, with a light delicate crust, broiled fish
>dinners with light cream sauce, good pastas, and even some good Indian food
>while
>there. Not to mention pastries and chocolates. Much of what Rick says about
>the
>smoking, etiquette, etc, is true but it is hard to distinguish from the
>fictional "firuletes" he throws in.

La guacha can easily get carried away and ofcourse her last posting was
meant tongue in cheek.
What she meant more truly to say was give us some fine reporting or some
exceptional fiction. Anything but the subjective and self indulgent
babblings of the last few postings.