4746 A Pickpockets History of Argentine Tango
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:18:18 -0800
From: "Igor Polk" <ipolk@virtuar.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] A Pickpockets History of Argentine Tango
It is a good article, with feeling, and good understanding of history
( not without historical questions though, as I can see ).
People lived like that everywhere, Trini, in 19 century and beginning of
20th one !
...
I even put a link to the article on my tango-links page.
But after some thinking, I have removed the link.
The article is made in such a negative light, I do not want my students to
see the tango in.
Sorry, that is the way media works..
I believe there is much more positive can be said and should be said about
the wonderful dance and even its history. Also, I would restrain myself from
viewing history through the lenses of any poetry, like Tango lyrics. Any art
is fiction. It just follows the rules of a genre. This is it.
Igor Polk.
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:48:19 -0800 (PST)
From: "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)" <patangos@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] A Pickpockets History of Argentine Tango
--- Igor Polk <ipolk@virtuar.com> wrote:
Also, I would
> restrain myself from
> viewing history through the lenses of any poetry, like
> Tango lyrics. Any art
> is fiction. It just follows the rules of a genre. This is
> it.
Lyrics and poetry can still reflect the social
consciousness of the times. Think of the folk songs of the
60's which protested the Vietnam war or those sugary songs
>from the 50's when people were prospering after the end of
WWII.
Fiction, movies, and novels also reflect what people are
thinking and feeling, as well as social norms. They are
much better in conveying pop culture and social history
better than traditional history books. I once did a paper
in graduate school using comic books to show the changing
role of women in society over the years. There's a term
for that type of analysis, but I can't recall what it is.
Trini de Pittsburgh
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:32:23 -0800
From: "Igor Polk" <ipolk@virtuar.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] A Pickpockets History of Argentine Tango
Trini, there are, of course, merits in what you have said.
Art as everything else can be used to investigate historical truth, but that
is indirect and requires a great skill, knowledge, and carefulness. Never
any art should be taken as a historical fact. There are many important
things to consider.
Otherwise everyone could be sure that Egyptians Pharaohs where 3 times
taller than other people,
And sugary songs and musicals of US 30s reflected the same level of
prosperity and happiness as you described was in 50s.
I agree with you also that traditional history books are no better than
novels.
Igor.
>>
Lyrics and poetry can still reflect the social
consciousness of the times. Think of the folk songs of the
60's which protested the Vietnam war or those sugary songs
>from the 50's when people were prospering after the end of
WWII.
Fiction, movies, and novels also reflect what people are
thinking and feeling, as well as social norms. They are
much better in conveying pop culture and social history
better than traditional history books. I once did a paper
in graduate school using comic books to show the changing
role of women in society over the years. There's a term
for that type of analysis, but I can't recall what it is.
Trini de Pittsburgh
