3928  sex ratios

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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:58:52 -0700
From: Marisa Holmes <mariholmes@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: sex ratios

> Many of the women who do attend advanced classes

are

> there as leaders (many who are there make their
> living teaching). What is going on here?

Uhhhh - some of us like to lead?

Marisa



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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:16:22 -0700
From: Yale Tango Club <yaletangoclub@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: sex ratios

Hahaha, good one.

Lately here we've been having more guys than girls in the beginners class. By as many as 8 more. Maybe you think this is awesome but it stresses me out to no end. I am constantly worried they'll be weirded out by having to practice with another guy and we'll lose them. Fortunately at the practica afterwards the excess of girls is restored and I go around saying You See! I told you we had more girls (and let me introduce you to this one, she's a bit shy but really nice and she'll just love practicing with a talented guy like you)!

In the past I noticed that an excess of guys is not a stable situation. They scope out the competition, change their shoes and go home. Having more girls (maybe 55/45) is stable. They chat about shoes and hang around until it's their turn.
That's the way it is here.

About men and how it's always their fault. I am a girl. I used to have that preconception, until I started to lead and I noticed how some girls really suck at following but it's not visually obvious, only when you dance with them. So when I thrash bad dancers it is understood I am an equal opportunity thrasher. Anyway I lean on them as much as on the guys when it comes to taking classes.

Another thing, if a girl is cute it hardly matters how horrendous a dancer she may be. Guys have to be pretty darn gorgeous for a girl to dance with them because of his looks and in spite of his dancing.

Tine






Marisa Holmes <mariholmes@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Many of the women who do attend advanced classes

are

> there as leaders (many who are there make their
> living teaching). What is going on here?

Uhhhh - some of us like to lead?

Marisa



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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:53:31 -0500
From: "Christopher L. Everett" <ceverett@CEVERETT.COM>
Subject: Re: sex ratios

Yale Tango Club wrote:

>About men and how it's always their fault. I am a girl. I used to have that preconception, until I started to lead and I noticed how some girls really suck at following but it's not visually obvious, only when you dance with them.
>

There's also the situation where a guy can be perfectly fine with some
women, but not others, and the ones they are not perfectly fine with,
are perfectly fine with other men.

This still happens.

>So when I thrash bad dancers it is understood I am an equal opportunity thrasher. Anyway I lean on them as much as on the guys when it comes to taking classes.
>
>

You, and every other teacher worth their pay.

>Another thing, if a girl is cute it hardly matters how horrendous a dancer she may be.
>

The flip side of that is when you ask the not-so-cute girl whose been
sitting down for the last hour and discover she connects better than
anyone else you've danced with up to then.

>Guys have to be pretty darn gorgeous for a girl to dance with them because of his looks and in spite of his dancing.
>
>

As far men go, only the "pretty darn gorgeous guys" have a problem with
this. After all, as Rob Hauk says, "Tango is the ultimate revenge of the
nerds."

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Christopher L. Everett

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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:08:25 -0700
From: Michael at Tango Bellingham <michaele@TANGOBELLINGHAM.COM>
Subject: Re: sex ratios

Yale Tango Club wrote:

> Another thing, if a girl is cute it hardly matters how horrendous a
> dancer she may be. Guys have to be pretty darn gorgeous for a girl to
> dance with them because of his looks and in spite of his dancing.
>
> Tine
>


Uh, no, not for me at least. I don't care how cute she is, if she can't
dance - no go, at least at the milonga. Practica ok, maybe, if she
doesn't hurt my back. To paraphrase an old country-and-western song,
life's too short and milongas are too few to dance with women who can't
dance.

What I want to know is why women dance with guys who can't dance?
There's been plenty of times where I'll be sitting at the table with a
bunch of women, one will come back from being slung around the floor by
some nitwit, complaining loudly about his lack of skill, offensive body
odor, being hit on, whatever. When I politely inquire as to why she and
her "sisters" continue to dance with the lout, the answer is usually
that they'd rather dance with an idiot than not dance at all. Go figure.

Michael
Tango Bellingham




Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:48:11 -1200
From: Michael Ditkoff <tangomaniac@CAVTEL.NET>
Subject: Re: sex ratios

> Yale Tango Club wrote:
> > Another thing, if a girl is cute it hardly matters how
> > horrendous a dancer she may be. Guys have to be pretty
> > darn gorgeous for a girl to dance with them because of
> his looks and in spite of his dancing. >
> > Tine

Everbody is looking for something different on the dance
floor. Some hope to bring a relationship off the floor.
Others want to dance with a "cute girl" who doesn't dance
well because it makes them feel good. It's a self-esteem
boost.

For some people, quality of dancing is not as important as
who they are dancing with. Some people only dance with
teachers because they fell it is beneath themselves to dance
with the "hoi polloi."

Everybody has to make their own decision if "bad" tango is
better than "no" tango. All that glitters is NOT gold.

Michael
Washington, DC
Looks like I'm going to NY in three weeks.


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