4487  Ahhh Intellectual sophism revisted

Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:09:02 -0300
From: Deby Novitz <dnovitz@lavidacondeby.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] Ahhh Intellectual sophism revisted
To: tango-l@mit.edu

Gabriel,

I know as a blond I have serious problems before even touching the
keyboard, however being from San Diego, I know you understand that.
Please tell me where in my post I wrote that milonguero was a style of
dance? I defined it as someone who dances tango. I would also like to
know where you get your reference point on the word milonga being
universal to all of Latin America?

I realize that my ex who is from Cali Colombia probably doesn't make me
an expert, however if you know Calinenos, they insist that partying and
salsa are the best in that country. In all the years we were together,
I never once heard him, his family, or his friends, use the word
milonguero. I never heard it used in the U.S. and I never heard it used
in Colombia. I have never heard it used in Peru, or by my Peruvian
friends in the U.S. I have only heard it used by people who dance tango.

Anyone who knows me, knows that I would NEVER refer to myself as a
Portena. I am American. I was born in the U.S. and moved to Buenos
Aires. That does not make me a portena. My friends here joke sometimes
that I am a Cali-Porteno. Just as the word "milonguero" carries
connotations of someone who hangs out in tango dance halls, Portena/o
here means more than someone who lives in the city.

Webster's defines the word sophism as an argument apparently correct in
form but actually invalid; /especially/ *:* such an argument used to
deceive

Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:24:25 -0700
From: "El Mundo del Tango" <mail@elmundodeltango.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Ahhh Intellectual sophism revisted
To: "Deby Novitz" <dnovitz@lavidacondeby.com>, <tango-l@mit.edu>


----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:09 AM
Subject: [Tango-L] Ahhh Intellectual sophism revisted

> Gabriel,
>
><< I know as a blond I have serious problems before even touching the
> keyboard,>>

I had no idea you were a blond and I fail to see the relevance
<< however being from San Diego, I know you understand that.

???????

><< Please tell me where in my post I wrote that milonguero was a style of
> dance?>>

You did not. But it was the point of my original post quarreling with the
use of such word to label a dancing style. And you quarrel with my entire
explanation of it.

<<I defined it as someone who dances tango. I would also like to

> know where you get your reference point on the word milonga being
> universal to all of Latin America?
>
> I realize that my ex who is from Cali Colombia probably doesn't make me
> an expert, however if you know Calinenos, they insist that partying and
> salsa are the best in that country. In all the years we were together,
> I never once heard him, his family, or his friends, use the word
> milonguero. I never heard it used in the U.S. and I never heard it used
> in Colombia. I have never heard it used in Peru, or by my Peruvian
> friends in the U.S. I have only heard it used by people who dance
> tango.>>>

I already explained my "credentials"in reference to that matter

> Anyone who knows me, knows that I would NEVER refer to myself as a
> Portena. >>

I apologize. I did not mean it as an offense.

Gabriel

>
>

Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:45:49 -0700
From: Duende de Tango <duendedetango@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Ahhh Intellectual sophism revisted
To: tango-l@mit.edu

>Sophoristic - Lets get off the plebian diatribes

Dr Duende de Tango

>
>
>> Gabriel,
>>
>><< I know as a blond I have serious problems before even touching the
>> keyboard,>>
>
>I had no idea you were a blond and I fail to see the relevance
><< however being from San Diego, I know you understand that.
>
>???????
>
>><< Please tell me where in my post I wrote that milonguero was a style of
>> dance?>>
>
>You did not. But it was the point of my original post quarreling with the
>use of such word to label a dancing style. And you quarrel with my entire
>explanation of it.
>
> <<I defined it as someone who dances tango. I would also like to
>> know where you get your reference point on the word milonga being
>> universal to all of Latin America?
>>
>> I realize that my ex who is from Cali Colombia probably doesn't make me
>> an expert, however if you know Calinenos, they insist that partying and
>> salsa are the best in that country. In all the years we were together,
>> I never once heard him, his family, or his friends, use the word
>> milonguero. I never heard it used in the U.S. and I never heard it used
>> in Colombia. I have never heard it used in Peru, or by my Peruvian
>> friends in the U.S. I have only heard it used by people who dance
>> tango.>>>
>
>I already explained my "credentials"in reference to that matter
>
>> Anyone who knows me, knows that I would NEVER refer to myself as a
>> Portena. >>
>
>I apologize. I did not mean it as an offense.
>
>Gabriel
>
>>
>>
>

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