4271  Argentine tango is a matter of experience, not

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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 19:12:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Derik Rawson <rawsonweb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Argentine tango is a matter of experience, not
Technical vs Sensual - Where are the Engineers from?
Cc: tl2@chrisjj.com

Dear Chris:

--- "Chris, UK" <tl2@chrisjj.com> wrote:

"If almost any ***** in Bs As could dance tango, how
difficult can it be?"

I agree with you. The above statement is exactly
right.

Argentine Tango is not difficult at all, but few
people in the USA have been dancing tango since they
were 6 years old. Many Argentines have been dancing
for twenty years to sixty years or more, speak
Argentine Spanish, and have lived in the culture for
most of their lives. These people really "know"
Argentine tango. US Americans, raised in Argentina
since they were 6 years old, also know tango, so one
does not have to be Argentine to know the dance. One
does however need experiece.

US Americans who visit Argentina for a few months a
year and call themselves teachers, have a lot to
learn. Tango is not difficult at all, but is does
require a wealth of experience. Here in the USA, we
ain't got it, no matter how much we visit the country!

This is why I suggest people on this list become
"learners" and "promoters of teachers" more than
"teachers" themselves. We should all perhaps
concentrate our energies on having lots of "neutral"
open milongas and practicas to get more general
dancing experience, and we should stop competing with
the Argentines as teachers. We should concentrate more
on listening to them and learning from them, and
getting them to come live here and show us the dance.
My opinion.

Derik (a native born US American who wants to learn..)
d.rawson@rawsonweb.com


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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 22:20:31 EDT
From: Mallpasso@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Argentine tango is a matter of experience, not
Technical vs Sen...
Cc: tl2@chrisjj.com

Wrong, Derik:

The vast majority of Argentines don't tango and couldn't care less about
tango.

El Bandido de Tango



In a message dated 5/11/2006 19:15:25 Pacific Daylight Time,
rawsonweb@yahoo.com writes:
Dear Chris:

--- "Chris, UK" <tl2@chrisjj.com> wrote:

"If almost any ***** in Bs As could dance tango, how
difficult can it be?"

I agree with you. The above statement is exactly
right.

Argentine Tango is not difficult at all, but few
people in the USA have been dancing tango since they
were 6 years old. Many Argentines have been dancing
for twenty years to sixty years or more, speak
Argentine Spanish, and have lived in the culture for
most of their lives. These people really "know"
Argentine tango. US Americans, raised in Argentina
since they were 6 years old, also know tango, so one
does not have to be Argentine to know the dance. One
does however need experiece.

US Americans who visit Argentina for a few months a
year and call themselves teachers, have a lot to
learn. Tango is not difficult at all, but is does
require a wealth of experience. Here in the USA, we
ain't got it, no matter how much we visit the country!

This is why I suggest people on this list become
"learners" and "promoters of teachers" more than
"teachers" themselves. We should all perhaps
concentrate our energies on having lots of "neutral"
open milongas and practicas to get more general
dancing experience, and we should stop competing with
the Argentines as teachers. We should concentrate more
on listening to them and learning from them, and
getting them to come live here and show us the dance.
My opinion.

Derik (a native born US American who wants to learn..)
d.rawson@rawsonweb.com


Derik Rawson
d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
https://www.rawsonweb.com
713-522-0888 USA Landline Direct to Portable Cell Phone
281-754-4315 USA Landline Voice/Fax
d.rawson@cal.berkeley.edu
d.rawson@haas.alum.berkeley.edu
rawsonweb@yahoo.com
Europe/Asia
rawsonweb@compuserve.com
Paris, France









Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 21:04:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Derik Rawson <rawsonweb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Argentine tango is a matter of experience, not
Technical vs Sen...
Cc: tl2@chrisjj.com

Dear El Bandido de Tango:

True, but what does that have to do with it? The
experienced Argentines are still far more experienced.
That is the point. Can we please stay on the subject
instead of trying to deflect attention elsewhere.
Thank you.

Derik
d.rawson@rawsonweb.com

--- Mallpasso@aol.com wrote:

> Wrong, Derik:
>
> The vast majority of Argentines don't tango and
> couldn't care less about
> tango.
>
> El Bandido de Tango
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/11/2006 19:15:25 Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> rawsonweb@yahoo.com writes:
> Dear Chris:
>
> --- "Chris, UK" <tl2@chrisjj.com> wrote:
>
> "If almost any ***** in Bs As could dance tango, how
> difficult can it be?"
>
> I agree with you. The above statement is exactly
> right.
>
> Argentine Tango is not difficult at all, but few
> people in the USA have been dancing tango since they
> were 6 years old. Many Argentines have been dancing
> for twenty years to sixty years or more, speak
> Argentine Spanish, and have lived in the culture for
> most of their lives. These people really "know"
> Argentine tango. US Americans, raised in Argentina
> since they were 6 years old, also know tango, so one
> does not have to be Argentine to know the dance.
> One
> does however need experiece.
>
> US Americans who visit Argentina for a few months a
> year and call themselves teachers, have a lot to
> learn. Tango is not difficult at all, but is does
> require a wealth of experience. Here in the USA, we
> ain't got it, no matter how much we visit the
> country!
>
> This is why I suggest people on this list become
> "learners" and "promoters of teachers" more than
> "teachers" themselves. We should all perhaps
> concentrate our energies on having lots of "neutral"
> open milongas and practicas to get more general
> dancing experience, and we should stop competing
> with
> the Argentines as teachers. We should concentrate
> more
> on listening to them and learning from them, and
> getting them to come live here and show us the
> dance.
> My opinion.
>
> Derik (a native born US American who wants to
> learn..)
> d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
>
>
> Derik Rawson
> d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
> https://www.rawsonweb.com
> 713-522-0888 USA Landline Direct to Portable Cell
> Phone
> 281-754-4315 USA Landline Voice/Fax
> d.rawson@cal.berkeley.edu
> d.rawson@haas.alum.berkeley.edu
> rawsonweb@yahoo.com
> Europe/Asia
> rawsonweb@compuserve.com
> Paris, France
>
>
>
>
> protection around
>
>







Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 00:22:41 EDT
From: Mallpasso@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Argentine tango is a matter of experience, not
Technical vs Sen...
Cc: tl2@chrisjj.com

Your original posts said:

"Many Argentines have been dancing for twenty years to sixty years or more..."

I responded that a vast majority of Argentines don't dance tango so your
"Many Argentines..." statement is incorrect.

El Bandido de Tango



In a message dated 5/11/2006 21:04:49 Pacific Daylight Time,
rawsonweb@yahoo.com writes:
Dear El Bandido de Tango:

True, but what does that have to do with it? The
experienced Argentines are still far more experienced.
That is the point. Can we please stay on the subject
instead of trying to deflect attention elsewhere.
Thank you.

Derik
d.rawson@rawsonweb.com

--- Mallpasso@aol.com wrote:

> Wrong, Derik:
>
> The vast majority of Argentines don't tango and
> couldn't care less about
> tango.
>
> El Bandido de Tango
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/11/2006 19:15:25 Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> rawsonweb@yahoo.com writes:
> Dear Chris:
>
> --- "Chris, UK" <tl2@chrisjj.com> wrote:
>
> "If almost any ***** in Bs As could dance tango, how
> difficult can it be?"
>
> I agree with you. The above statement is exactly
> right.
>
> Argentine Tango is not difficult at all, but few
> people in the USA have been dancing tango since they
> were 6 years old. Many Argentines have been dancing
> for twenty years to sixty years or more, speak
> Argentine Spanish, and have lived in the culture for
> most of their lives. These people really "know"
> Argentine tango. US Americans, raised in Argentina
> since they were 6 years old, also know tango, so one
> does not have to be Argentine to know the dance.
> One
> does however need experiece.
>
> US Americans who visit Argentina for a few months a
> year and call themselves teachers, have a lot to
> learn. Tango is not difficult at all, but is does
> require a wealth of experience. Here in the USA, we
> ain't got it, no matter how much we visit the
> country!
>
> This is why I suggest people on this list become
> "learners" and "promoters of teachers" more than
> "teachers" themselves. We should all perhaps
> concentrate our energies on having lots of "neutral"
> open milongas and practicas to get more general
> dancing experience, and we should stop competing
> with
> the Argentines as teachers. We should concentrate
> more
> on listening to them and learning from them, and
> getting them to come live here and show us the
> dance.
> My opinion.
>
> Derik (a native born US American who wants to
> learn..)
> d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
>
>
> Derik Rawson
> d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
> https://www.rawsonweb.com
> 713-522-0888 USA Landline Direct to Portable Cell
> Phone
> 281-754-4315 USA Landline Voice/Fax
> d.rawson@cal.berkeley.edu
> d.rawson@haas.alum.berkeley.edu
> rawsonweb@yahoo.com
> Europe/Asia
> rawsonweb@compuserve.com
> Paris, France
>
>
>
>
> protection around
>
>





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