4005  The Argentines, the inventors of "No.."

Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 14:07:47 +0000
From: Lucia <curvasreales@YAHOO.COM.AR>
Subject: Re: The Argentines, the inventors of "No.."

Unless you get a SM kick out of it, why dance with
someone who makes you hate his/her behaviour? Or even
worse on top of it, have a "superior" white European
woman teach manners to stranger Japanese men on the
dance floor.....

Lucia

--- Roger <rde@QDOS.NET.AU> escribis:

> astrid wrote:
> >
> > Buenos Aires people don't wear sunglasses. This is
> not suited to tango." He
> > was very surprised and wanted to know why.
> "Because like this you can't do
>
> I hate dancing with someone wearing glasses. It
> feels like a sharp
> instrument poised ready to poke my eye out. (OK so
> not everyone wears
> Dame Edna glasses - but my trepidation exists
> regardless of the style of
> frame).
>
> cheers
> rde
>

Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:44:29 -0800
From: "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)" <patangos@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: The Argentines, the inventors of "No.."

There is a difference in asking a person to change
their behavior (and their accepting the change) and
imposing a change on their behavior. Sorta' like the
issue of teaching on the dance floor.

For example, at a milonga a couple of months ago, I
was aghast that several of my beginning students, in
their excitement to learn, had coaxed several
experienced dancers into teaching them on the dance
floor. It was teaching at an unacceptable level for
me, and the experienced dancers really should have
known better. After some re-education went out to
everyone, the problem stopped. Those who had the
problem accepted the change.

At a milonga a few weeks ago, a friend of mine
recounted how one guy tried to teach her on the dance
floor (the guy couldn't lead the step correctly and
she knew it). She left him when the song ended. This
is an example of him trying to impose a behavior on
her - which she didn't get an SM kick out of, I am
pretty sure.

Bottom line is that tango includes choices, and there
is nothing wrong with asking for a change in behavior.
That is how we all learn tango, anyway. But if the
requested change doesn't occur, then it is up to the
requestee to decide whether to continue dancing with
that person or not.

Trini de Pittsburgh

--- Lucia <curvasreales@YAHOO.COM.AR> wrote:

> Unless you get a SM kick out of it, why dance with
> someone who makes you hate his/her behaviour? Or
> even
> worse on top of it, have a "superior" white European
> woman teach manners to stranger Japanese men on the
> dance floor.....
>
> Lucia

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Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:37:45 -0600
From: Lois Donnay <donnay@DONNAY.NET>
Subject: Re: The Argentines, the inventors of "No.."

Interesting - the only person in Buenos Aires who tried to teach me on the
floor was a man from Taiwan. Of course, he was a terrible tango dancer (not
too bad at ballroom, though). Of course, he kept asking me to dance.

Lois Donnay
Minneapolis, MN

>
> Bottom line is that tango includes choices, and there
> is nothing wrong with asking for a change in behavior.
> That is how we all learn tango, anyway. But if the
> requested change doesn't occur, then it is up to the
> requestee to decide whether to continue dancing with
> that person or not.
>
> Trini de Pittsburgh
>
> --- Lucia <curvasreales@YAHOO.COM.AR> wrote:
>
> > Unless you get a SM kick out of it, why dance with
> > someone who makes you hate his/her behaviour? Or
> > even
> > worse on top of it, have a "superior" white European
> > woman teach manners to stranger Japanese men on the
> > dance floor.....
> >
> > Lucia
>

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Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:57:46 -0800
From: Pink Panther <bailartangos@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: The Argentines, the inventors of "No.."

Lois pulls out of the ether:
> Interesting - the only person in Buenos Aires who tried to teach me on the

>floor was a man from Taiwan. Of course, he was a terrible tango dancer (not
>too bad at ballroom, though). Of course, he kept asking me to dance.

.

>Lois Donnay
>Minneapolis, MN

..
You're a divine dancer, Lois, which goes to prove an axiomatic law of the
universe: unsolicited chatty "teachers" are crappy, clueless dufus'...
.
On a side note, I think Astrid is really intelligent & articulate, funny 2.
I would imagine sunglasses would get in the way, if you're dancing with
your partner's head gently next to yours.
.
I still like seeing the 2 people chatting on a cell-phone, while dancing
close-embrace, having separate conversation, yikes!
.
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