3806 Cabeceo formula for success, corrected!
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:27:47 +0000
From: Lucia <curvasreales@YAHOO.COM.AR>
Subject: Cabeceo formula for success, corrected!
I apologize, I was still sleepy when wrote the
previous formula.
The correct formula for "calculating" the cabeceo
"success rate" should be:
[1 - refusal/(refusal + acceptance)] x 100%,
which gives 100% if no dance has been refused, 0% if
all dances have been refused aand 50% if 5 have been
accepted and 5 refused.
Lucia
A few recent postings re cabeceo seem to express
posters' gratification at their success of inviting,
or being invited to a dance using eye contact.
That's fine, and we are happy at their success but the
true role of the cabeceo, by common aggreement on the
list, is to avoid humiliation for a man publicly
refused, or for a woman to avoid "mercy dancing" with
a man she would rather not, out of her kindness to
avoid him embarassment.
Therefore the success of cabeceo for a man, in the
right environment, may be calculated as a %ratio of (1
- refusal/acceptance) X 100. This figure may also
indicate the measure of the man as a Man and/or as a
Dancer, but this is another story.
A more complex formula could be used by polling the
women and arrive at a general figure reflecting men's
seductiveness at the milonga as judged by the women,
but enough statistics for milongas ;->
Lucia
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:14:46 -0700
From: "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)" <patangos@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Cabeceo formula for success, corrected!
Hola Lucia,
If men's egos could handle this sort of calculation,
there wouldn't be a need for the cabeceo. It would be
easier to just walk up and get rejected. Nonetheless,
Trini has a sadistic love of statistical analysis, so
I'm going to be subjected to your formula. So I have a
question. If I try to catch a woman's eye when a nice
Biagi tanda starts, but she stares at my friend
Rhythmic Rob, that would be a failure, no? But later,
when a Calo' tanda starts, I find her eyes boring a
hole through my head. Does this cancel out the
previous failure? Or do I have to count one success
and one failure? How about if I ignore her for Calo'?
Do I still get to count it as a success, since she
would have danced with me?
Sean
P.S. For those who dont get my sense of humor, just
ignore this post. You wont get the point if you cant
find the humor. If you are tempted to make a serious
response, dont do it. Instead, turn off your
computer, and go dance yourself into unconsciousness.
--- Lucia <curvasreales@YAHOO.COM.AR> wrote:
> The correct formula for "calculating" the cabeceo
> "success rate" should be:
>
> [1 - refusal/(refusal + acceptance)] x 100%
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:52:37 +0000
From: Lucia <curvasreales@YAHOO.COM.AR>
Subject: Re: Cabeceo formula for success, corrected!
Hi Sean,
--- Trini y Sean (PATangoS) <patangos@yahoo.com>
escribis:
> I'm going to be subjected to your formula.
-- Courage, no electric current!
> So I have a question. If I try to catch a woman's
eye
-- This is the point of the game! you HAVE to try and
catch her eye! If you didn't succeed you lost! If she
responded and aggrees to dance, you win, you lucky
fellow!
> Or do I have to count one success and one failure?
--That's it!
> How about if I ignore her for Calo'? Do I still get
>to count it as a success, since she would have danced
>with me?
-- You didn't try, so you wouldn't know. It doesn't
count.
Sean
-- I subscribe to your PS, Sean. It's only a joke..
Lucia
>P.S. For those who dont get my sense of humor, just
>ignore this post. You wont get the point if you
cant
> find the humor. If you are tempted to make a serious
> response, dont do it. Instead, turn off your
>computer, and go dance yourself into unconsciousness.
--- Lucia <curvasreales@YAHOO.COM.AR> wrote:
> The correct formula for "calculating" the
cabeceo
> "success rate" should be:
>
> [1 - refusal/(refusal + acceptance)] x 100%
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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:43:30 +0900
From: astrid <astrid@RUBY.PLALA.OR.JP>
Subject: Re: Cabeceo formula for success, corrected!
> Hola Lucia,
>
> If men's egos could handle this sort of calculation,
> there wouldn't be a need for the cabeceo.
...If I try to catch a woman's eye when a nice
> Biagi tanda starts, but she stares at my friend
> Rhythmic Rob, that would be a failure, no? But later,
> when a Calo' tanda starts, I find her eyes boring a
> hole through my head. Does this cancel out the
> previous failure? Or do I have to count one success
> and one failure? How about if I ignore her for Calo'?
> Do I still get to count it as a success, since she
> would have danced with me?
>
Dear Sean,
I would say, it usually works this way:
You try to catch her eye when Biagi starts, but she is looking at your
rhythmical friend.= 1 minuspoint for you
After a few Biagi songs with Rob, she is back at her table, and now she is
looking at you, but you have ordered yourself a beer, and are darkly puffing
away at your cigarette with your back to her at the bar now= one minuspoint
for you
She goes off dancing with someone else,but for Calo, she is back staring at
you. You use your chance to take revenge, and shun her invitation- 1
pluspoint for you
She goes off dancing again...
Then she comes back. Meanwhile your sensitive ego has recovered, and you
smile at her from afar. But by now, you have made her wait one time too
many, and she pretends not to see your smile- 1 minuspoint for you.
Tonight's score: minus 2 (regarding this lady)
Try again next week. Tango is just like real life, except that you always
get another chance
Astrid
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:05:33 -0500
From: Michael Figart II <michaelfigart@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Cabeceo formula for success, corrected!
Dear Sean,
I would say, it usually works this way:
You try to catch her eye when Biagi starts, but she is looking at your
rhythmical friend because she wants to save the best for later.= plus 1
for you.
At the start of a Calo tanda, she has eyes locked on you, but you
decline, showing her that you don't care for Calo, and that your terms
are important to you.= plus 1 for you.
She goes off dancing with someone else, but doesn't enjoy it; she
realizes that she appreciates true artistry, and is dying for the touch
of your gaze.= plus 1 for you.
A fantastic tanda of Biagi begins as you position yourself
strategically. You catch her eye, with a halo of backlighting and a
distinguished air that makes her heart beat faster.= plus 1 for you.
Halfway through the tanda she has no longer has any awareness of time
and place, lost in your embrace.= plus 1 for you.
At the end of the tanda, she is reduced to an uncontrollable, yet
maniacally joyful fit of giggling as she collapses at your feet.= plus 1
for you.
Tonight's score: plus 6 for you, but don't worry; it'll be better next
week! There's always another chance!
Michael from Houston
Sean wrote>>>>>>>>> Hola Lucia,
> If men's egos could handle this sort of calculation,
> there wouldn't be a need for the cabeceo.
...If I try to catch a woman's eye when a nice
> Biagi tanda starts, but she stares at my friend
> Rhythmic Rob, that would be a failure, no? But later,
> when a Calo' tanda starts, I find her eyes boring a
> hole through my head. Does this cancel out the
> previous failure? Or do I have to count one success
> and one failure? How about if I ignore her for Calo'?
> Do I still get to count it as a success, since she
> would have danced with me?
>
Astrid wrote>>>>>>>>Dear Sean,
I would say, it usually works this way:
You try to catch her eye when Biagi starts, but she is looking at your
rhythmical friend.= 1 minuspoint for you
After a few Biagi songs with Rob, she is back at her table, and now she
is
looking at you, but you have ordered yourself a beer, and are darkly
puffing
away at your cigarette with your back to her at the bar now= one
minuspoint
for you
She goes off dancing with someone else,but for Calo, she is back staring
at
you. You use your chance to take revenge, and shun her invitation- 1
pluspoint for you
She goes off dancing again...
Then she comes back. Meanwhile your sensitive ego has recovered, and you
smile at her from afar. But by now, you have made her wait one time too
many, and she pretends not to see your smile- 1 minuspoint for you.
Tonight's score: minus 2 (regarding this lady)
Try again next week. Tango is just like real life, except that you
always
get another chance
Astrid
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:44:07 -0500
From: Michael Ditkoff <tangomaniac@CAVTEL.NET>
Subject: Re: Cabeceo formula for success, corrected!
Sean:
Do what I do to improve the success rate in the cabeceo
formula. I bring a high powered flash light with low width
so I can concentrate the beam on the woman I want to dance.
I just have to be careful not to blind her. Of course, I
have a Plan B. I bring a flare gun and shoot a flare above
myself. When all the women in the room look at the flare, I
have about 10 seconds to make contact with all them without
concern they are looking at somebody else. It's a great way
to get attention!!
Michael
Washington, DC
I get very creative at milongas on Independence Day
> >
> Sean wrote>>>>>>>>> Hola Lucia,
> > If men's egos could handle this sort of calculation,
> > there wouldn't be a need for the cabeceo.
> ..If I try to catch a woman's eye when a nice
> > Biagi tanda starts, but she stares at my friend
> > Rhythmic Rob, that would be a failure, no?
