5405 dancing with a broom
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:06:59 +0900
From: "Astrid" <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp>
Subject: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom
To: <desdelasnubes@web.de>, <tango-l@mit.edu>
> In your inventory of poetic imagery you seem to have forgotten the broom:
yes, and dancing with a broom is the only thing that has actually been done
successfully, IMO, you can see the performance in one of the CITTA videos.
Two brooms actually, and they look more elegant in the hands of this
tanguero than quite a few women I have seen...They follow perfectly too.
Now, I do not recommend exchanging your "follow" for a couple of brooms but
if you used them to practise enough at home to reach the skill of this
master, it might improve things at the milongas considerably...; )
>
>> 3. You dance tango rather like a broom than a violin. (by Igor Polk)
>
>
> In case you're not familiar with the tradition of "bailar con la escoba"
>
> don't forget to read the manual before dancing with a broom:
>
> "Come, old broomstick, you are needed,
> Take these rags and wrap them round you!
> Long my orders you have heeded,
> By my wishes now I've bound you.
> Have two legs and stand,
> And a head for you.
> Run, and in your hand
> Hold a bucket too."
>
> (Sorcerer's apprentice. Goethe.
> https://www.fln.vcu.edu/goethe/zauber_e3.html
> [https://www.fln.vcu.edu/goethe/zauber_e3.html])
>
> with thanks to all poets for their valuable contributions and for widening
> our poetic horizon
>
> Annanymous broom
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:56:43 -0800 (PST)
From: NANCY <ningle_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom
To: Astrid <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp>
Cc: tango-l <tango-l@mit.edu>
And brooms are the perfect followers, aren't they?
They always do exactly what you tell them to do, they
never 'mess up' your timing or your step lengths or
your balance and they never do those annoying
embellishments that thwart your creativity. They also
show up when you want them and stay in the closet when
you don't feel like dancing with them and they never
have a bad day or the sniffles or get cranky and they
never correct you or complain or try to do something
on their own, for goddesse's sakes . And you don't
have to talk to them or invite them for coffee or
compliment on their attire or shoes or musicality or
technique. And they don't have those aggravating
FEELINGS!!!!
Hmm....they are just like those painter's brushes,
only larger. Of course, they don't have a nice case
like a violin.
--- Astrid <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp> wrote:
>
> > In your inventory of poetic imagery you seem to
> have forgotten the broom:
>
> yes, and dancing with a broom is the only thing that
> has actually been done
> successfully, IMO, you can see the performance in
> one of the CITTA videos.
> Two brooms actually, and they look more elegant in
> the hands of this
> tanguero than quite a few women I have seen...They
> follow perfectly too.
> Now, I do not recommend exchanging your "follow" for
> a couple of brooms but
> if you used them to practise enough at home to reach
> the skill of this
> master, it might improve things at the milongas
> considerably...; )
>
>
>
> >
> >> 3. You dance tango rather like a broom than a
> violin. (by Igor Polk)
> >
> >
> > In case you're not familiar with the tradition of
> "bailar con la escoba"
> >
> > don't forget to read the manual before dancing
> with a broom:
> >
> > "Come, old broomstick, you are needed,
> > Take these rags and wrap them round you!
> > Long my orders you have heeded,
> > By my wishes now I've bound you.
> > Have two legs and stand,
> > And a head for you.
> > Run, and in your hand
> > Hold a bucket too."
> >
> > (Sorcerer's apprentice. Goethe.
> > https://www.fln.vcu.edu/goethe/zauber_e3.html
> > [https://www.fln.vcu.edu/goethe/zauber_e3.html])
> >
> > with thanks to all poets for their valuable
> contributions and for widening
> > our poetic horizon
> >
> > Annanymous broom
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:20:39 +0900
From: "Astrid" <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom
To: "NANCY" <ningle_2000@yahoo.com>
Cc: tango-l <tango-l@mit.edu>
And you don't
> have to talk to them or invite them for coffee or
> compliment on their attire or shoes or musicality or
> technique. And they don't have those aggravating
> FEELINGS!!!!
sounds a lot more practical than a real woman... for SOME people, that is...
Maybe you could dress up the broom a little bit, sort of like a scarecrow to
make them look more human? They will never be as sexy as the real thing, but
hey, the advantages are considerable. ; )
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:27:14 +0000 (GMT)
From: Club~Tango*La Dolce Vita~ <dani@tango-la-dolce-vita.eu>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom
To: tango-l <tango-l@mit.edu>
Cc: Astrid <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp>, NANCY <ningle_2000@yahoo.com>
"dancing with a broom"...?
Well, why not? Hmmm...
Good enough for Fred Astaire (see "Royal Wedding", 1952), good enough for any of us!
Besides, there are added benefits:
Brooms...
i. ...don't talk back;
ii. ...are not subject to the stupidity of stupid so-called 'political correctness';
iii. ...do what they're told, without question;
iv. ...don't think they're better than they actually are;
v. ...can be dressed in sexy underwear without having to first buy flowers or jewellery;
vi. ...sweep the floors without complaining.
Dani
>:-)))))
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:32:36 -0800
From: meaning of life <kushi_bushi@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom
To: Astrid <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp>, NANCY <ningle_2000@yahoo.com>
Cc: tango-l <tango-l@mit.edu>
i think we should sweep this topic under the rug and GO DANCING
The Tangonista
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> From: astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp
> To: ningle_2000@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:20:39 +0900
> CC: tango-l@mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom
>
>
> And you don't
>> have to talk to them or invite them for coffee or
>> compliment on their attire or shoes or musicality or
>> technique. And they don't have those aggravating
>> FEELINGS!!!!
>
> sounds a lot more practical than a real woman... for SOME people, that is...
> Maybe you could dress up the broom a little bit, sort of like a scarecrow to
> make them look more human? They will never be as sexy as the real thing, but
> hey, the advantages are considerable. ; )
>
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Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 02:38:55 +0900
From: "Astrid" <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom
To: "Club~Tango*La Dolce Vita~" <dani@tango-la-dolce-vita.eu>,
"tango-l" <tango-l@mit.edu>
Cc: NANCY <ningle_2000@yahoo.com>
> Brooms...
> i. ...don't talk back;
> iii. ...do what they're told, without question;
> iv. ...don't think they're better than they actually are;
and especially, don't think they are better than you !! Wouldn't you love
that...
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:32:13 -0800 (PST)
From: steve pastor <tang0man2005@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom
To: Astrid <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp>, Club~Tango*La Dolce Vita~
<dani@tango-la-dolce-vita.eu>, tango-l <tango-l@mit.edu>
Cc: NANCY <ningle_2000@yahoo.com>
Broom's aren't the only ideal partners.
Here's another idea, compliments of Lieber &
Stoller:
The sad sack was a sittin on a block of stone
Way over in the corner weepin all alone.
The warden said, hey, buddy, dont you be no square.
If you cant find a partner use a wooden chair.
Tango, everybody, Tango...
Astrid <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp> wrote:
> Brooms...
> i. ...don't talk back;
> iii. ...do what they're told, without question;
> iv. ...don't think they're better than they actually are;
and especially, don't think they are better than you !! Wouldn't you love
that...
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Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:34:33 -0800
From: "Igor Polk" <ipolk@virtuar.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom
To: <tango-l@mit.edu>
He-he-he..
That all sounds very funny, but...
Have you actually tried dancing with a broom dear ladies?
I can tell you, it is very difficult ! Much more difficult than dancing with
a woman.
Well, except probably when she is dancing like a mop...
Igor Polk
That is what I think.
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:59:53 +1100
From: Victor Bennetts <Victor_Bennetts@infosys.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom
To: tango-l <tango-l@mit.edu>
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I think we can all agree brooms are great to dance with as demonstrated definitively in that CITA video. But I thought I would list a few things I like about dancing with my wife in particular and women in general (when the connection is good) that you don't get from a broom:
1. they embrace you with tenderness
2. you can feel their heart beating
3. you can feel them breathing
4. they are warm
5. if you do something inventive or particularly musical you get a small smile or sometimes a sigh
6. the smell of them when you are both working hard and you both start to sweat
7. the way they hold you for a moment after a beautiful dance before they release you and step away
Maybe someone will invent a broom that can provide these things but I don't believe it will be in my lifetime. In short, despite all your quarrelsome ways, haughtiness, occasional bad breath - god bless you tangueras!
Victor Bennetts
Nancy (?)>> Brooms...
>> i. ...don't talk back;
>> iii. ...do what they're told, without question;
>> iv. ...don't think they're better than they actually are;
Astrid >and especially, don't think they are better than you !! Wouldn't you >love
>that...
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Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:21:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Tango For Her <tangopeer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom
To: tango-l <tango-l@mit.edu>
I'll take the woman who ...
- Hears the music differently than I do.
- Expects me to wait.
- Desires me to slow down.
- Is doing something with her legs that I can't see, but I know is wonderful.
- Snaps to that front step during a quick milonga.
- Makes me wait when she steps over.
- Loves the feel of torsion.
- Loves it when our feet touch during a torsion move.
- Wants me to be there for her as she displays her beauty.
- Likes the little wiggles.
- Teaches me something new.
- Likes the little foot drags in close embrace.
- Notices when I have changed my embrace to loosen up.
- Giggles at a great ending.
- Allows me to say it was my fault.
- Caresses my leg or back with her leg.
- Exchanges lead and follow just enough to keep my on my toes.
- Looks at me with appreciation when I have noticed all of those things.
Victor Bennetts <Victor_Bennetts@infosys.com> wrote:
I think we can all agree brooms are great to dance with as demonstrated definitively in that CITA video. But I thought I would list a few things I like about dancing with my wife in particular and women in general (when the connection is good) that you don't get from a broom:
1. they embrace you with tenderness
2. you can feel their heart beating
3. you can feel them breathing
4. they are warm
5. if you do something inventive or particularly musical you get a small smile or sometimes a sigh
6. the smell of them when you are both working hard and you both start to sweat
7. the way they hold you for a moment after a beautiful dance before they release you and step away
Maybe someone will invent a broom that can provide these things but I don't believe it will be in my lifetime. In short, despite all your quarrelsome ways, haughtiness, occasional bad breath - god bless you tangueras!
Victor Bennetts
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Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:14:33 -0800
From: Norman Tiber <natiber@charter.net>
Subject: [Tango-L] Dancing with a broom
To: tango-l@mit.edu
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At the risk of ?enabling? postings about women as ?metaphors,? I do
have to admit that I have been guilty of using the ?women as a broom?
image.
I have done this when describing the qualities that I look for in a
dance partner, including my favorite partner, my wife Anne, in
certain aspects of the Tango.
I do not want to dance with brooms, violins, etc. etc. etc. at Milongas.
At a workshop/practica, when I am trying to work out my lead on some
new technique or step, I do appreciate it if my partner can tolerate
being pushed and shoved around the floor like a broom. I try to do
this gently and move from a practice hold to close embrace as I gain
some mastery.
Initially, I want my partner to be silent while I am working out my
?cognitive map? of what I am trying to lead. But as I progress,
feedback from my partner about what she is experiencing, what is
working, what is not, suggestions to help me with my lead are
essential. For me, this works much better than using two broom sticks.
I have been a student of Argentine Tango for about three and a half
years. Some women have a zero broom tolerance. I respect this and,
given my learning style, try not to impose my ?broom? needs on them.
My wife has about a ten minute broom tolerance and I try to limit our
practicas, when I am in the ?I don?t know what I?m trying to lead
mode,? to no more than ten minutes.
Now I must admit that I have benefited from the weeks of discussion
on Tango L about women as a metaphor. Everyone in my Tango community
knows about my need for ?broom tolerance? from my workshop/practica
partners. But for the New Year, I am taking a resolution to switch
>from a ?broom? to a ?Stradivarius? metaphor. Any woman who can
tolerate my pushing and shoving her around the floor is as special as
a Stradivarius, whose exceptional qualities I appreciate to the fullest!
Wishing all a New Year filled with Tango and peace!
Norm
