98 Calo/Beron: Milonga Que Peina Canas
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 16:33:47 -0500
From: Stephen Brown <Stephen.P.Brown@DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: Calo/Beron: Milonga Que Peina Canas
Can anyone tell me of a CD that contains the Miguel Calo/Raul Beron
recording of Milonga Que Peina Canas?
With best regards,
Steve (de Tejas)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 21:37:29 -0800
From: Dan Boccia <redfox@ALASKA.NET>
Subject: Re: Calo/Beron: Milonga Que Peina Canas
{" Can anyone tell me of a CD that contains the Miguel Calo/Raul Beron
recording of Milonga Que Peina Canas?"}
With best regards,
Steve (de Tejas)
This is a nice milonga on at least 2 currently available albums:
On the Reliquias label: "Sus Exitos con Podesta, Ortiz, y Beron", track 18.
This is a superb album with several excellent tracks, including some
excellent valses. Sound quality is outstanding - definitely one of my
favorite Calo albums and highly recommended. Here's the track listing:
https://www.tangostore.com/spanish/index.php?d=info&idx34
Also another album that contains this song: "Milongas Pa' Sacarle Viruta Al
Piso". This is a compilation of milongas, several of which are from the
50's and beyond. I don't reach for it very often when I'm DJing but it does
have some nice tracks and some that are hard to find otherwise. Here's the
track listing:
https://www.tangostore.com/spanish/index.php?d=info&idxg8
The track listings above are from Zival's in Bs As, but Mark Celaya of
Classic Tangos also has both of them:
https://www.classictango.com/reliquas.htm
https://www.classictango.com/misc.htm
With pleasure -
Dan
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 07:52:25 +0200
From: Hannes Rieger <hrieger@GMX.DE>
Subject: Re: Calo/Beron: Milonga Que Peina Canas
Hi Stephen,
> Can anyone tell me of a CD that contains the Miguel Calo/Raul Beron
> recording of Milonga Que Peina Canas?
the only CD I know containing this record is
FM: Milongas... Pa' Sacarle Viruta Al Piso
EMI 8 28544-2
Greetings
Hannes
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:14:10 -0700
From: Sergio <sergio@NCINTER.NET>
Subject: Milonga
I am surprised to see that milonga seems to be more difficult to dance than
tango.
I always thought the opposite.
Milonga is one of tango roots therefore it has some genetical similarities.
The musical notation is 2x4, this means 2 quarter notes (blacks in European
notation) per musical segment.
This is the same as the original tangos, such as those played by "Tuba
Tango" or "Los muchachos de antes", which are sometimes difficult to
distinguish from milongas.
It is said that tango obtained its choreography from milonga. Its melody and
emotional strength from the Habanera and its rhythm from Candombe. The
Andalusian tanguillo probably gave its dignity and feeling. There are some
investigators that feel that tango is a brother rather than a son of those
other dances.
The primitive bands were formed by violin, flute and guitar. Those tangos
the same as milonga have a fast, upbeat, happy rhythm. It was later that
perhaps due to Italian influence tango became more melancholic, this was
accentuated by the inclusion of Bandoneon and the notation change from 2x4
to 4x4 (4 quarter notes per beat).
Milonga then is one of several tango roots. As tango evolved it slowed down,
became more melancholic and developed a different choreography.
Milonga is easier to dance because one steps on every beat, pauses are
determined by the music that at times stops, it is danced in close embrace.
The technique is particular in the sense that moves are adapted to the fast
beat.
It cannot be danced with the same technique as tango since it is a different
dance. Ochos, both front and back require an adaptation (shorter, fast
steps, hips remain more aligned with the partner). The leader changes his
choreography during the executions of ochos in milonga. Finally there is
more use of 'contrapaso' and syncopations.
Perhaps one of the most important elements is to dance in close embrace and
acquire a good understanding of the beat.
If you start by learning musicality and then dance in close embrace you will
discover that actually milonga is much easier to learn and dance than tango.
Happy milongas to everybody.
