Date:    Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:59:17 -0800 
From:    clayton beach <akumushi@ONEBOX.COM> 
Subject: The Future of Tango 
  
     How very interesting that Jonathan Thornton mentioned the minuet, 
for (which some of you might already know) has much more significance 
to classical music and our history than being an antiquated dance.  The 
third movement of many classical era symphonies was a minuet.  Though 
this was later replaced by the Scherzo, the music of the minuet survived 
the dance by a long shot, considering that many symphonies that contain 
it are still played today.  It was taken far beyond its role as a dance 
evovled as part of an amazingly complex form of art. 
     What does this have to do with tango?  The tango music, like the 
music of the minuet has undergone a dramatic transformation.  Piazzolla 
in my opinion, did to tango what classical musicians did with the dance 
music of their time; he took it beyond a form of dance/entertainment 
music to a level of sophistication that calls for the audience to sit 
down, listen and think.  It has become a highly intellectualized music 
and a very complicated art. 
     This leaves us with current tango musicians busy making further 
developments in a classical way, or infusing the tango with jazz style 
variation and harmony.  Though these are great accomplishments for the 
progression of tango music as an art, we as dancers have been left behind. 
  
     Though the practitioners of the minuet were not blessed with the 
recordings of their favorite dance music, it is questionable that the 
dance would have survived long anyway.  The scandalous Waltz came through 
stealing the hearts of the youth, and history has a way of forgetting 
the unpopular.  The fact is that the meat of our danceable tango is a 
small batch of music recorded over a period of thirty years, most of 
which is recorded with regrettably poor fidelity. 
     Tango musicians do not seem too keen on giving up their new found 
freedoms and innovations, and why should they?  Art is dynamic, changing 
and they have every right to alter their music as they see fit.  However, 
that leaves us living in a bubble.  We cannot simply rely on golden age 
music if the tango as a form of dance is ever to survive.  As is, we 
are a relatively small cult of people, our communities are tight nit 
and in many ways exclusive.  We do not have widespread popular appeal. 
 What is the likely hood that a species with a 99 percent infant fatality 
rare would survive extinction?  We as tangueros are suffering from this, 
as well as a loss a viable food source; good tango music. 
     Will any of us live to see the death of tango?  No, it s not going 
anywhere that fast.  But, do we want future generations to feel the passion 
and beauty of our art and obsession?  As I said last time, we need to 
expand our definitions of tango, educate musicians with what we as DANCERS 
want, and give our patronage to the talented few that satisfy us.  We 
also need to pick up the pace of bringing in new blood.  Though I disagree 
vehemently with  Bugs  on many planes, his opinions are valid and represent 
a fairly large group of people, whose passion for dance in general could 
help strengthen our communities if we did not alienate them. 
     I prefer to dance to golden age tango, and don t like to dance to 
anything else, but I m not kidding myself that all is fine and dandy 
in tango land.  If someone can invent new movements that carry the spirit 
of tango, we should support them.  If someone wants to take elements 
of tango and throw them into the mixture of another art, that s phenomenal. 
 If someone can find tango-like inspiration in music other than golden 
age tango, then all the better.  It is idiocy to think that a community 
can thrive, or even survive, with a stagnant, aging pool of music and 
dance moves.  As a whole, tango dancers have lost one of the fundamental 
relationships in dance.  The first two are the relationship between the 
partners and the relationship within the people of the crowd.  The third, 
and the one we have lost, is the relationship that is created as musician 
and dancer interact as a DIALOGUE.  It has been a monologue, and a repetative 
one at that, for far too long. 
  
  
-- 
clayton  beach 
akumushi@onebox.com - email 
(866) 248-7670 x7206 - voicemail/fax 
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
Date:    Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:08:24 -0600 
From:    Stephen Brown <Stephen.P.Brown@DAL.FRB.ORG> 
Subject: Re: The Future of Tango 
 
I have ended up writing two subtantially different, but related responses 
to Clayton's thought-provoking comments. 
My apologies for the length... 
  
+++++First Response+++++ 
  
Like Clayton, I am very much in favor of supporting the contemporary 
musicians who play and record tango dance music...  I have purchased many 
CDs of contemporary tango.  At the right moments, I am able to play music 
from Dan Diaz, Sexteto Sur, El Arranque, Orquesta Color Tango, Quartango, 
New York Tango Trio, etc., but the playlists from contemporary orchestras 
have many overlapping selections.  Furthermore, if I play too much of 
contemporary music, the core group of existing dancers simply stay off the 
dance floor...  If I persist, they will stop attending the milonga I dj. 
  
Dancing tango is an participatory art which has traditionally had a high 
barriers to admission.  Some instructors have had success in reducing the 
admission barriers by teaching milonguero style tango, others by providing 
an insight into the structure of tango.  The use of more contemporary music 
may increase tango's appeal to some degree, but as Clayton notes, 
contemporary tango music is more challenging for dancing which further 
raises the barriers to admission. 
  
I am not too concerned about tango becoming a museum piece.  Many 
contemporary tango orchestras have recognized the needs of tango dancers 
and have tried to develop music that expresses their own artistic 
sensibilities that will also support dancing.  Many of the milongas at 
tango weeks have live music and a number of tango orchestras have a regular 
or semi-regular circuit of milongas for which they play. 
  
I must say live tango music is truling compelling...  Last fall, Dan Diaz' 
Tango Camerata played for a milonga in Dallas in a facility that was 
hosting a swing dance with a very good live band in another room.  People 
were allowed to go back and forth between dance floors.  Dan Diaz' Tango 
Camerata really pulled in the swing dancers. 
  
In addition, tango dancing continues to evolve...  As I previously wrote, 
milonguero-style tango has become much more popular outside Buenos Aires 
than it was ten years ago.  Nuevo tango, which is one way to approach 
contemporary music, has developed in the past decade.  Liquid tango--which 
combines nuevo and milonguero-style tango--has appeared in recent years. 
  
For, the most part, however, few of these innovations have reduced the 
admission barriers to tango.  If one wants to go beyond walking to the 
music, tango remains a dance for those who are willing to make the effort 
to learn it. 
  
Creating a simpler, more appealing version of tango might help the 
community grow... And if we were trying to sell Cadillacs that might be a 
commercial objective that would help .  But if future generations are not 
willing to make an effort to learn tango, who cares whether they dance some 
version of it?  I do not understand the point of making sacrifices now, so 
that future generations can dance some light version of tango. 
  
+++++Second Response+++++ 
  
One of the difficulties I am beginning to recognize in these discussions 
about the direction tango is going or ought to go is that each of our views 
may be affected by the experiences in our own communities...  Having 
visited a number of communities, I think there are universal issues and 
issues that are unique to each community. 
  
Some communities may have a dj who has poor equipment and plays only music 
from the 1920s and 30s because he approaches the music like a museum 
curator rather than a dancer...  Some communities may have a dj who plays 
only music from the 1950s and 60s and ignores all of the classics from the 
1940s...  Some communities may have a dj who plays only post-Piazzolian 
tangos... Some communities may have a teacher who teaches a stiff-framed 
style of tango that consists of multi-step patterns. 
  
Many communities do not have many tango dancers in their 20s...  Someone 
might have been asked by a coworker or acquaintance in their 20s "Why can't 
tango be more fun like swing or salsa?"  It might be natural to look at the 
shortcomings in the community and think that those are the reasons that 
people in their 20s are not dancing tango... 
  
As far as attracting people in their 20s, I do not think the fidelity of 
the music or even the style of dance is that important -- though many of 
the younger tango dancers favor the nuevo and liquid styles.  What 
interests most people in their 20s is other people in their 20s... The San 
Francisco Bay Area saw a huge surge in people in their 20s dancing tango 
when Mariella Frangnillo and Miller Ramil started teaching together there. 
When Mariela left, the people in their 20s had each other, Miller and his 
new partner,..., and this age group has remained a sizable part of the the 
SF tango community.  And believe me, Mariela and Miller do not teach any 
simplified tango... 
  
In addition, some members of a tango community can inadvertently put off 
the younger dancers.  Suppose a young couple in their 20s shows up for a 
practica to work on things they learned in in their first class...  The 
woman in her 20s is grabbed and taken out on the dance floor by a man in 
his 50s who has just annointed himself a teacher...  The man in his 20s is 
grabbed and taken out on the dance floor by a woman in her 40s who has just 
annointed herself a teacher...  How many times do you think the couple in 
their 20s will attend the practica?? 
  
With best regards, 
Steve (de Tejas) 
  
  
 
    
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