2749 Insulting notes
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 10:58:23 -0700
From: Jay Jenkins <jayjenkins888@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Insulting notes
John Gleeson tells Carlos Rojas;
"This above posting has to be one of the most ass. . . .ine statements ever
made to this list !"
It seems to me that Carlos politely gave his opinion about a tango subject. His opinion could be right or wrong, (I happen to believe that it is wrong) but this is irrelevant.
Then we have John Gleeson who writes an insulting E-mail, there is no substantiation of his opinion on the matter, he just insults.
We have seen similar notes from Michael Figart II and also from Rick McGarvey.
It happens that those that act as described above offend valuable contributors to the list.
It is also obvious that they have little knowledge and experience with tango in general.
Rick went to Buenos Aires for the first time about a year ago he acknowledged that he knew little tango. He started sending daily reports of "his" interpretation of milongas codes. The whole thing was a real joke culminating with the note on the "singing meat pies".
Michael Figart II, his pitiful act is so recent that needs no further clarification.
John Gleeson has a failed tango group in New Hampshire. He attempted to start a tango group that failed (see his web page). https://john.gleeson.home.comcast.net/
Now he entertains himself sending insulting notes.
My question is for how long should we allow this sort of behavior to continue.
We allow this to happen by remaining silent and in the process we keep losing the most valuable contributors to our tango list.
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:26:52 -0400
From: John Gleeson <john.gleeson@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Insulting notes
> It is also obvious that they have little knowledge and experience with tango in general.
>
> John Gleeson has a failed tango group in New Hampshire. He attempted to start a tango group that failed (see his web page).
https://john.gleeson.home.comcast.net/
Now who is being insulting, Mr Jenkins ? !!
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:17:06 +0000
From: Oleh Kovalchuke <oleh_k@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Insulting notes
Jay Jenkins has issued a call to arms and among other things wrote or rather
insulted, needless to say without any clarification thus:
>Michael Figart II, his pitiful act is so recent that needs no further
>clarification.
I thought and continue to think that Michael's posts were well reasoned.
Cheers, Oleh K.
>From: Jay Jenkins <jayjenkins888@YAHOO.COM>
>Reply-To: Jay Jenkins <jayjenkins888@YAHOO.COM>
>To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: [TANGO-L] Insulting notes
>Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 10:58:23 -0700
>
>John Gleeson tells Carlos Rojas;
>"This above posting has to be one of the most ass. . . .ine statements ever
>made to this list !"
>
>
>It seems to me that Carlos politely gave his opinion about a tango subject.
>His opinion could be right or wrong, (I happen to believe that it is wrong)
>but this is irrelevant.
>
>Then we have John Gleeson who writes an insulting E-mail, there is no
>substantiation of his opinion on the matter, he just insults.
>
>We have seen similar notes from Michael Figart II and also from Rick
>McGarvey.
>
>It happens that those that act as described above offend valuable
>contributors to the list.
>
>It is also obvious that they have little knowledge and experience with
>tango in general.
>
>Rick went to Buenos Aires for the first time about a year ago he
>acknowledged that he knew little tango. He started sending daily reports of
>"his" interpretation of milongas codes. The whole thing was a real joke
>culminating with the note on the "singing meat pies".
>
>Michael Figart II, his pitiful act is so recent that needs no further
>clarification.
>
>John Gleeson has a failed tango group in New Hampshire. He attempted to
>start a tango group that failed (see his web page).
>https://john.gleeson.home.comcast.net/
>
>Now he entertains himself sending insulting notes.
>
>My question is for how long should we allow this sort of behavior to
>continue.
>We allow this to happen by remaining silent and in the process we keep
>losing the most valuable contributors to our tango list.
>
>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 18:54:19 -0600
From: David Hodgson <DHodgson@TANGO777.COM>
Subject: Re: Insulting notes
This is getting interesting with all the aspersions being cast around.
Now with the exitment of the Tango festival being over perhaps some of us
are a little wound up.
Might I suggest a nice coffee enema to help relax.
Now that I have posted to this string the moderators will allow this message
through and perhaps the string will die.
My two cents.
David Hodgson
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 03:18:10 +0000
From: herve michel <herve_michel1@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Insulting notes
Coffee enema, Perjhaps a mocha swirl with 4 shot expresso(organic/fair trade
coffee beans) anema, some of us on the west coast have style even with the
enema
felt like sharing...
herve
This electronic message transmission contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL
information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named
above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are
hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this
communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its
attachments and notify sender immediately. Thank You.
>From: David Hodgson <DHodgson@TANGO777.COM>
>Reply-To: David Hodgson <DHodgson@TANGO777.COM>
>To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] Insulting notes
>Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 18:54:19 -0600
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Received: from mc6-f26.hotmail.com ([65.54.252.162]) by mc6-s9.hotmail.com
>with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 8 Sep 2004 18:03:00 -0700
>Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com ([209.119.0.109]) by
>mc6-f26.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 8 Sep 2004
>18:02:56 -0700
>Received: from vms.dc.lsoft.com (209.119.0.2) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com
>(LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id
><3.00E747F7@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:02:52 -0400
>Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
>1.8e) with spool id 0149 for TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Wed, 8 Sep
>2004 21:01:40 -0400
>Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail
> V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 9469; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:00:32 -0400
>Received: from mail.servingit.net [67.19.48.52] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM
>SMTP Level 430) via TCP with SMTP ; Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:00:31 EDT
>Received: (qmail 96028 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2004 00:40:53 -0000
>Received: from unknown (HELO leatherdancer) (65.100.143.101) by
>mail.servingit.net with SMTP; 9 Sep 2004 00:40:53 -0000
>X-Message-Info: uAlIf6yzHjyGN0gCTxqUbrMX4iouEpRLHoi2EzgfpD8>X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by mail.servingit.net
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
>In-Reply-To: <BAY8-F34mSx0LDGdyoO00006304@hotmail.com>
>Precedence: list
>Return-Path: owner-tango-l@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Sep 2004 01:02:57.0116 (UTC)
>FILETIME=[BE6129C0:01C49608]
>
>This is getting interesting with all the aspersions being cast around.
>Now with the exitment of the Tango festival being over perhaps some of us
>are a little wound up.
>Might I suggest a nice coffee enema to help relax.
>
>Now that I have posted to this string the moderators will allow this
>message
>through and perhaps the string will die.
>
>My two cents.
>David Hodgson
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 00:51:44 -0600
From: David Hodgson <DHodgson@TANGO777.COM>
Subject: Re: Insulting notes
Bloody Hell that is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My dear Herve:
Could I have a shot of (ahem..) Vanilla with that, a dash of Sacada and a
sprinkling of Moleneta around the top. Make sure there is foam (glaring
look).
Note: As a recent transient from Seattle to Denver,, I understand the west
coast style.... I'll take the elegant, rough and tumble flair now.
(Hey it was there.........).
David~
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:18 PM
To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] Insulting notes
Coffee enema, Perjhaps a mocha swirl with 4 shot expresso(organic/fair trade
coffee beans) anema, some of us on the west coast have style even with the
enema
felt like sharing...
herve
This electronic message transmission contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL
information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named
above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are
hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this
communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its
attachments and notify sender immediately. Thank You.
>From: David Hodgson <DHodgson@TANGO777.COM>
>Reply-To: David Hodgson <DHodgson@TANGO777.COM>
>To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] Insulting notes
>Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 18:54:19 -0600
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Received: from mc6-f26.hotmail.com ([65.54.252.162]) by mc6-s9.hotmail.com
>with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 8 Sep 2004 18:03:00 -0700
>Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com ([209.119.0.109]) by
>mc6-f26.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 8 Sep 2004
>18:02:56 -0700
>Received: from vms.dc.lsoft.com (209.119.0.2) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com
>(LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id
><3.00E747F7@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:02:52 -0400
>Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
>1.8e) with spool id 0149 for TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Wed, 8 Sep
>2004 21:01:40 -0400
>Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail
> V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 9469; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:00:32 -0400
>Received: from mail.servingit.net [67.19.48.52] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM
>SMTP Level 430) via TCP with SMTP ; Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:00:31 EDT
>Received: (qmail 96028 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2004 00:40:53 -0000
>Received: from unknown (HELO leatherdancer) (65.100.143.101) by
>mail.servingit.net with SMTP; 9 Sep 2004 00:40:53 -0000
>X-Message-Info: uAlIf6yzHjyGN0gCTxqUbrMX4iouEpRLHoi2EzgfpD8>X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by mail.servingit.net
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
>In-Reply-To: <BAY8-F34mSx0LDGdyoO00006304@hotmail.com>
>Precedence: list
>Return-Path: owner-tango-l@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Sep 2004 01:02:57.0116 (UTC)
>FILETIME=[BE6129C0:01C49608]
>
>This is getting interesting with all the aspersions being cast around.
>Now with the exitment of the Tango festival being over perhaps some of us
>are a little wound up.
>Might I suggest a nice coffee enema to help relax.
>
>Now that I have posted to this string the moderators will allow this
>message
>through and perhaps the string will die.
>
>My two cents.
>David Hodgson
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 10:45:58 -0700
From: ilona <ilonakd@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Insulting notes
--- Jay Jenkins <jayjenkins888@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> It seems to me that Carlos politely gave his opinion
> about a tango subject. His opinion could be right or
> wrong, but this is irrelevant.
>
> Then we have John Gleeson [...]
> We have seen similar notes from Michael Figart II
> and also from Rick McGarvey.
>
> It happens that those that act as described above
> offend valuable contributors to the list.
>
> My question is for how long should we allow this
> sort of behavior to continue.
My question is why are you the arbiter of who makes
"valuable" contributions and who doesn't?
Now I happen to agree with your opinions of the
individuals in question. However, I'm a big fan of
using the delete key or filters, rather than of
letting you or anyone else determine who gets to post
and in what style they are required to do so.
-Ilona
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:03:04 -0700
From: Daniel Lapadula <clubstyletango@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Insulting notes
Hi Ilona and the list.
The main think here is ,that you do not know what is
in there until you open the mail.
The filter should be in their keyboard.
I agreed with Jay: We should report to the list what
we know about this particular individuals that hide
them self behind a computer talking sh.. and atacking
,when they are SO poor dancers
Lets bring back the moderator!!!!
Regards.
Daniel
--- ilona <ilonakd@YAHOO.COM> wrote:...
> --- Jay Jenkins <jayjenkins888@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> > It seems to me that Carlos politely gave his
> opinion
> > about a tango subject. His opinion could be right
> or
> > wrong, but this is irrelevant.
> >
> > Then we have John Gleeson [...]
> > We have seen similar notes from Michael Figart II
> > and also from Rick McGarvey.
> >
> > It happens that those that act as described above
> > offend valuable contributors to the list.
> >
> > My question is for how long should we allow this
> > sort of behavior to continue.
>
> My question is why are you the arbiter of who makes
> "valuable" contributions and who doesn't?
>
> Now I happen to agree with your opinions of the
> individuals in question. However, I'm a big fan of
> using the delete key or filters, rather than of
> letting you or anyone else determine who gets to
> post
> and in what style they are required to do so.
>
> -Ilona
>
>
> should be sent to
> send the
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
>
>
=====
Daniel Lapadula
ClubStyleTango@yahoo.com
54114-773-9383
Buenos Aires-Argentina
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:03:24 -0700
From: Daniel Lapadula <clubstyletango@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Insulting notes
Hi Ilona and the list.
The main think here is ,that you do not know what is
in there until you open the mail.
The filter should be in their keyboard.
I agreed with Jay: We should report to the list what
we know about this particular individuals that hide
them self behind a computer talking sh.. and atacking
,when they are SO poor dancers
Lets bring back the moderator!!!!
Regards.
Daniel
--- ilona <ilonakd@YAHOO.COM> wrote:...
> --- Jay Jenkins <jayjenkins888@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> > It seems to me that Carlos politely gave his
> opinion
> > about a tango subject. His opinion could be right
> or
> > wrong, but this is irrelevant.
> >
> > Then we have John Gleeson [...]
> > We have seen similar notes from Michael Figart II
> > and also from Rick McGarvey.
> >
> > It happens that those that act as described above
> > offend valuable contributors to the list.
> >
> > My question is for how long should we allow this
> > sort of behavior to continue.
>
> My question is why are you the arbiter of who makes
> "valuable" contributions and who doesn't?
>
> Now I happen to agree with your opinions of the
> individuals in question. However, I'm a big fan of
> using the delete key or filters, rather than of
> letting you or anyone else determine who gets to
> post
> and in what style they are required to do so.
>
> -Ilona
>
>
> should be sent to
> send the
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
>
>
=====
Daniel Lapadula
ClubStyleTango@yahoo.com
54114-773-9383
Buenos Aires-Argentina
_______________________________
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:48:28 -0400
From: WHITE 95 R <white95r@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Insulting notes
Please, lets not bring back the dreaded moderators. This forum as most
others works very well without censorship. The list was moderated before and
it was a terrible thing. The supermoderator took it upon himself to silence
and censor some folks at his whim. I hated that and I hate it worse than the
worst insults and stupid posts.
I suggest to leave the list unmoderated and learn to use the "delete" button
in the keyboard. Perhaps one change that might help is to ask people to only
post and participate under their own name. Maybe if folks could not hide
behind a veil of annonimity, they would be more thoughtful about what they
type. It's much harder to hurl insults and vituperations when one must do it
in one's own name and have to stand by one's words.
Otherwise, please lets no go back to the bad old days of censorship
(moderation). I might not agree with many of the things posted and I might
not like of some of the opinions posted, but I rather use my own discretion
and intellect as a filter and send the offending messages to the trash heap!
Freedom of expression to all,
manuel
----Original Message Follows----
>From: Daniel Lapadula <clubstyletango@YAHOO.COM>
>Hi Ilona and the list.
>in there until you open the mail.
>The filter should be in their keyboard.
>I agreed with Jay: We should report to the list what
>we know about this particular individuals that hide
>them self behind a computer talking sh.. and atacking
>,when they are SO poor dancers
>Lets bring back the moderator!!!!
>Regards.
>Daniel
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:40:00 EDT
From: Mallpasso@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Insulting notes
Yeah, I agree... the person (moderator) was really annoying as he wanted me
to adhere to the most picky protocols of netiquette. Good riddance!
El bandito de Tango
In a message dated 9/10/2004 19:52:30 Pacific Standard Time,
white95r@HOTMAIL.COM writes:
Please, lets not bring back the dreaded moderators. This forum as most
others works very well without censorship. The list was moderated before and
it was a terrible thing. The supermoderator took it upon himself to silence
and censor some folks at his whim. I hated that and I hate it worse than the
worst insults and stupid posts.
I suggest to leave the list unmoderated and learn to use the "delete" button
in the keyboard. Perhaps one change that might help is to ask people to only
post and participate under their own name. Maybe if folks could not hide
behind a veil of annonimity, they would be more thoughtful about what they
type. It's much harder to hurl insults and vituperations when one must do it
in one's own name and have to stand by one's words.
Otherwise, please lets no go back to the bad old days of censorship
(moderation). I might not agree with many of the things posted and I might
not like of some of the opinions posted, but I rather use my own discretion
and intellect as a filter and send the offending messages to the trash heap!
Freedom of expression to all,
manuel
----Original Message Follows----
>From: Daniel Lapadula <clubstyletango@YAHOO.COM>
>Hi Ilona and the list.
>in there until you open the mail.
>The filter should be in their keyboard.
>I agreed with Jay: We should report to the list what
>we know about this particular individuals that hide
>them self behind a computer talking sh.. and atacking
>,when they are SO poor dancers
>Lets bring back the moderator!!!!
>Regards.
>Daniel
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:17:09 +0000
From: herve michel <herve_michel1@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Insulting notes
IILona talks to much. I will put a filter for her AND you!!!!
This electronic message transmission contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL
information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named
above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are
hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this
communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its
attachments and notify sender immediately. Thank You.
>From: Daniel Lapadula <clubstyletango@YAHOO.COM>
>Reply-To: Daniel Lapadula <clubstyletango@YAHOO.COM>
>To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] Insulting notes
>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:03:24 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Received: from mc3-f25.hotmail.com ([64.4.50.161]) by mc3-s5.hotmail.com
>with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:03:45 -0700
>Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com ([209.119.0.109]) by
>mc3-f25.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Fri, 10 Sep 2004
>07:03:45 -0700
>Received: from vms.dc.lsoft.com (209.119.0.2) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com
>(LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id
><8.00E77A69@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:03:44 -0400
>Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
>1.8e) with spool id 4160 for TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Fri, 10 Sep
>2004 10:02:31 -0400
>Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail
> V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 9303; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:02:15 -0400
>(IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with SMTP ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004
>10:02:14 EDT
>10 Sep 2004 07:03:24 PDT
>X-Message-Info: FdnYIHvXcrKcq2bWp49HsyqBw1V5xmz9Lb+yO+68+Jk
>Precedence: list
>Return-Path: owner-tango-l@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2004 14:03:45.0476 (UTC)
>FILETIME=[FC975840:01C4973E]
>
>Hi Ilona and the list.
>The main think here is ,that you do not know what is
>in there until you open the mail.
>The filter should be in their keyboard.
>I agreed with Jay: We should report to the list what
>we know about this particular individuals that hide
>them self behind a computer talking sh.. and atacking
>,when they are SO poor dancers
>Lets bring back the moderator!!!!
>Regards.
>Daniel
>--- ilona <ilonakd@YAHOO.COM> wrote:...
> > --- Jay Jenkins <jayjenkins888@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> >
> > > It seems to me that Carlos politely gave his
> > opinion
> > > about a tango subject. His opinion could be right
> > or
> > > wrong, but this is irrelevant.
> > >
> > > Then we have John Gleeson [...]
> > > We have seen similar notes from Michael Figart II
> > > and also from Rick McGarvey.
> > >
> > > It happens that those that act as described above
> > > offend valuable contributors to the list.
> > >
> > > My question is for how long should we allow this
> > > sort of behavior to continue.
> >
> > My question is why are you the arbiter of who makes
> > "valuable" contributions and who doesn't?
> >
> > Now I happen to agree with your opinions of the
> > individuals in question. However, I'm a big fan of
> > using the delete key or filters, rather than of
> > letting you or anyone else determine who gets to
> > post
> > and in what style they are required to do so.
> >
> > -Ilona
> >
> >
> > should be sent to
> > send the
> > LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
> >
> >
>
>
>=====
>
>Daniel Lapadula
>ClubStyleTango@yahoo.com
>54114-773-9383
>Buenos Aires-Argentina
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 03:28:39 EDT
From: TangoLady@AOL.COM
Subject: Insulting Notes
Hola List:
Manuel Patino wrote: QUOTE -
The supermoderator took it upon himself to silence
and censor some folks at his whim. I hated that and I hate it worse than the
worst insults and stupid posts. UNQUOTE
I was a victim of the supermoderator, and would not want to go back to that
system, PLEASE!
Manuel also wrote: QUOTE -
I suggest to leave the list unmoderated and learn to use the "delete" button
in the keyboard. Perhaps one change that might help is to ask people to only
post and participate under their own name. Maybe if folks could not hide
behind a veil of annonimity, they would be more thoughtful about what they
type. It's much harder to hurl insults and vituperations when one must do it
in one's own name and have to stand by one's words. UNQUOTE
I agree with Manuel, and I also suggest the use of the "delete" key to trash
all undesireable messages. It is not hard to find on your keyboard and it
works.
Yes, Freedom of Espression to All.
UNCENSORED MESSAGES TO ALL!!
Lydia Henson
