1243 Looking out for each other
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 15:24:47 -0700
From: sarah La Rocca <danzisima@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Looking out for each other
Dear List, Assuming it was legitimate, this strange correspondence of Horacio "El Pibe" that was somehow published here is both an embarressment and a warning to us all. I knew Horacio here in NYC and he was always a gentleman with me. But we all know too well many many stories of tango teachers taking advantage of students, women in particular, and abusing hospitality. As members of the community, we owe it to each other if we suspect someone is being abused, duped and otherwise maltreated, to say something. Especially seasoned dancers who have seen alot of sh-t go down. We need to do more than just gossip-we need to protect each other, especially the young and the naive. This is an important part of community building too. Sarah La RoccaNYC
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 05:43:54 -0700
From: Marisa Holmes <mariholmes@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Looking out for each other
--- sarah La Rocca <danzisima@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Dear List, Assuming it was legitimate, this strange
> correspondence ...
I don't know personally any of the people mentioned in
this set of documents, and I have no interest,
financial or otherwise, in their private activities.
I would suggest to the readership of this list,
however, that the simple fact that the documents
included translations means that a person other than
the apparent writers was involved in the transmission
of the documents. There is no reason whatsoever to
believe that any of the text is legitimate. One's
working assumption should be that the information is
false, since everything we know about the documents
suggests deceit.
Yours for considering the evidence,
Marisa
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 10:32:15 -0500
From: "Frank G. Williams" <frankw@MAIL.AHC.UMN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Looking out for each other
All,
Marisa wrote:
> One's
> working assumption should be that the information is
> false, since everything we know about the documents
> suggests deceit.
Quite true. Yet, the tenor of the messages has a plausible ring (in my
experience) that serves to remind us that Argentine Tango was not the art of
high(er) society. Every 'dyed in the wool' milonguera/o that I've had the
pleasure to meet has had a strength of personality that qualified them as
'characters'. Sarah's admonition is valid, my dears.
HOWEVER, PLEASE keep that kind of gossip out of tango-l. Since we're now
unmoderated, the occasional four letter word or gutter remark is probably
inevitable. Let's just let it go without an avalanche response, which only
encourages those who enjoy stirring the pot.
Frank in Minneapolis
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 10:35:23 -0600
From: Brian Dunn <Brian@DANCEOFTHEHEART.COM>
Subject: Re: Looking out for each other
Dear Tango-L readers,
Marisa wrote:
>> One's
>> working assumption should be that the information is
>> false, since everything we know about the documents
>> suggests deceit.
Frank further wrote:
> Quite true...Since we're now
> unmoderated, the occasional four letter word or gutter remark is probably
> inevitable. Let's just let it go without an avalanche response, which
only
> encourages those who enjoy stirring the pot.
List-based communities can be like a commuter bus ride - you never know who
will get on and start venting their life story, real or imagined. Like
Frank, I appreciate that the list is taking in the "local color" without
foaming at the mouth in response.
For me, as tango fiction, the messages have entertainment value. They also
have educational value because of the supplied translations. Any opinions
about the veracity of the translation work, form those in a position to
know?
Now if only the author/translator/contributor among us would supplement the
"slanguage" lessons by taking a little more care in formatting...;>
Brian Dunn
Dance of the Heart
Boulder, Colorado USA
1(303)938-0716
https://www.danceoftheheart.com
