1306 Many emotions come with death
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 20:12:39 EDT
From: Timothy Pogros <TimmyTango@AOL.COM>
Subject: Many emotions come with death
Just a few hours ago I felt sorrow, and happiness with the passing of Nestor
Ray.
And now I'm starting to feel anger. Anger in the sense that I have been
robbed of the pleasure of have Nestor Ray in my life and as my friend and tango
inspiration.
Nestor Ray live in a world of denial, as do many other milongueros living
today. After having most of his chest filled with plastic, he still felt that was
his permission to continue to Smoke Cigarettes. Think of all the Milongueros
you know who have passed away lately and I bet they all smoked.
Carlos Gavito, Unless a miracle happens, we will be soon be sending you our
condolences. Instead of putting on benefits for Cancer Foundations, Please,
give up smoking. Be the inspiration to all of us and your friends to also give up
the ugly habit. If not for your self for me and all the other people who love
watching you dance.
Let Nestor Ray and Rudolfo Cieri, and many more milongueros be your drive
for this new cause
Everyone, Please quite smoking.
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 04:27:39 +0200
From: Peter Bengtson <peter.bengtson@MUSIKELIT.NU>
Subject: Re: Many emotions come with death
On fredag, maj 23, 2003, at 02:12 Europe/Stockholm, Timothy Pogros
wrote:
> Carlos Gavito, Unless a miracle happens, we will be soon be sending
> you our
> condolences. Instead of putting on benefits for Cancer Foundations,
> please,
> give up smoking.
I took classes with Carlos Gavito and María Plazaola a couple of weeks
ago in Stockholm, and I can tell you that Gavito nowadays is a
non-smoker. And his dancing was, as ever, a true inspiration to all.
/ Peter
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 01:51:29 -0300
From: Ruben Carlos Terbalca <rubenmilonga@SINECTIS.COM.AR>
Subject: DESDE BUENOS AIRES [TANGO-L] Many emotions come with death
Yo recibi la noticia de la perdida de Nestor Ray a traves de TANGO-L.
Nos conocimos en el viejo Almagro y en otros lugares de Bs. As.
Nos encontramos nuevamente en S.F. (en la pista, como corresponde).
Teniamos algunos puntos de vista diferentes, pero el mismo placer por el
baile natural, lo que la moda actual llama "estilo milonguero" (ambos nos
reiamos de esta denominacion : ..."estilo milonguero"...)
-- Ambos habiamos conocido MILONGUEROS y ambientes autenticos que bailaban
otros estilos--
Quiero destacar una virtud de Nestor que no es clara para los que no son
argentinos:
EL PASO MAS TIEMPO DE SU VIDA BAILANDO TANGO ......que trabajando con el
tango...-
El valor , la calidad y la autenticidad de su baile provienen de esta
virtud.
Vaya este pequeño recordatorio para el autentico milonguero.
Sirva tambien como alerta para los amigos del mundo: quedan pocos
sobrevivientes de ese mundo... cuando el tango era una identidad profunda y
no intercambiable, cuando el tango era una expresion intima e intimista.
Apurense a venir a Bs. As....
Nos vamos poniendo viejos...
desde Buenos Aires
Ruben Milonga
(Ruben Terbalca)
IF SOMEBODY NEED A TRANSLATION IN BAD ENGLISH, JUST LET ME KNOW
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, 22 de May de 2003 9:12 p.m.
Subject: [TANGO-L] Many emotions come with death
> Just a few hours ago I felt sorrow, and happiness with the passing of
Nestor
> Ray.
> And now I'm starting to feel anger. Anger in the sense that I have been
> robbed of the pleasure of have Nestor Ray in my life and as my friend and
tango
> inspiration.
>
> Nestor Ray live in a world of denial, as do many other milongueros living
> today. After having most of his chest filled with plastic, he still felt
that was
> his permission to continue to Smoke Cigarettes. Think of all the
Milongueros
> you know who have passed away lately and I bet they all smoked.
>
> Carlos Gavito, Unless a miracle happens, we will be soon be sending you
our
> condolences. Instead of putting on benefits for Cancer Foundations,
Please,
> give up smoking. Be the inspiration to all of us and your friends to also
give up
> the ugly habit. If not for your self for me and all the other people who
love
> watching you dance.
> Let Nestor Ray and Rudolfo Cieri, and many more milongueros be your
drive
> for this new cause
>
> Everyone, Please quite smoking.
>
Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 01:15:42 -0300
From: Ruben Carlos Terbalca <rubenmilonga@SINECTIS.COM.AR>
Subject: DESDE BUENOS AIRES TRANSLATION WITH THE HELP OF RICHARD LIPKIN Many emotions come with death
> > > DEAR TANGO PEOPLE,
> > > Tango Guy ask for my translation.And because my bad English I use
> > basically
> > > the Richard Lipkin translation with some alterations.
> > > Thanks
> > > Ruben Milonga.-
>
> > >
> > > > Hola Ruben, Para aquellos que pidan traducción.
> > > > Un abrazo, Richard
> > > > """"
> > > > I received the news of the passing of Nestor Ray through Tango-L.
> - We knew each other from the old Almagro and other places in Bs. As.
> -We met anew in S.F. (on the dance floor, as it should be).
> We had a few different points of view, but the same pleasure for
natural
> dancing, which current fashion calls "milonguero style" (we both
> laughed at this denomination : ..."milonguero style" ...) -- We both
had
> known MILONGUEROS and authentic surroundings where they danced ALSO
> other styles--
> --I would like to point out one of Nestor's virtues which is not clear to
> --those who are not Argentine:
> --HE SPENT A GREATER PART OF HIS LIFE DANCING TANGO .........AND THE
> WORKING
> --TANGO TIME WAS LESS....AND AFTER LONG FEELING EXPERIENCE....
> --The value, the quality and the authenticity of his dance come from that
> --virtue. He don`t start the tango life like a profession.
> > This small reminder is dedicated to the authentic milonguero.
> > Let it also serve as a wake-up call to friends around the world: there
> > remain few survivors of that world.... when the tango was a profound
and
> > non-interchangeable identity, when the tango was an expression both
> > intimate and (DEEP AND DEEP) INTIMACY ? (I am not shure about this
word)
> > Hurry in coming to Bs. As....
> > We are comming olders...
> > From Buenos Aires
> > Ruben Milonga
>
> >
>
