2240 Oh No! odours
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:04:43 +0900
From: astrid <astrid@RUBY.PLALA.OR.JP>
Subject: Re: Oh No! odours
.."I love garlic myself too, I will try that restaurant/
> dish sometimes, but you know, I don't want to torture my partner with my
> garlic breath. May be you want to try my trick of <xyz> next time you
have
> a lot of garlic before dancing tango..."
>
> So can that sentence be twisted to fit BO?
>
> Word of caution: I am NOT known for diplomacy in the dance community :-)
Well, Bibi, I can't think of any way to twist that sentence to fit BO,
unless you say:"You know, there is that shop down the road that sells a
really nice deodorant..." But who has the nerve to tell their dance partner
that? Thank God, I live in Japan, and we don't have that problem. (Japanese
have smaller sweat glands, and a different diet, so, generally, no smell at
all, in spite of the humid climate in summer.)
Once a teacher here injured his back, and his promotion forced him to go on
working. He managed to get a break in the middle of his classes by
saying:"Please,everybody, change your T-shirts,or I will not dance with you
anymore." I thought, this was quite rude, esp. since nobody had any BO, but
I knew, he was in pain half of the time.
Now, on that etiquette paragraph Ilona sent, I saw another point: "Go easy
on the perfume and eau de cologne." Since I love perfume, the costly French
and Italian kind, not the cheap stuff from the corner drugstore, I would
like to ask the list: Is perfume, even a good one, a problem to many?
I personally appreciate it,when a man wears a good cologne to tango. It
tells me, he is aware of his body and of having people in close physical
proximity, and it conveys a certain elegance. If I really like the scent he
is using , I tell him.
Astrid
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 04:51:14 EST
From: TangoLady@AOL.COM
Subject: Oh No! odours
Dear List:
I am glad for the postings and suggestions on BO. Perhaps and hopefully the
culprits will read them and correct their situations.
Personally, I am completely "turned off" by body odor and smelly men at the
Milongas, especially the ones with smelly, dirty beards and mustaches. I
believe if one has a mustache or beard, it must be washed all the time after eating
anything and sneezing, etc. Massive amounts of hair get germs and bacteria
and become sour and very smelly... I can't stand them.
Astrid wrote:
"Now, on that etiquette paragraph Ilona sent, I saw another point: "Go easy
on the perfume and eau de cologne." Since I love perfume, the costly French
and Italian kind, not the cheap stuff from the corner drugstore, I would
like to ask the list: Is perfume, even a good one, a problem to many?
I personally appreciate it, when a man wears a good cologne to tango. It
tells me, he is aware of his body and of having people in close physical
proximity, and it conveys a certain elegance. If I really like the scent he
is using, I tell him."
Like Astrid, I also love the good kind of French perfume, and worn
appropriately is soft and is not strong and cheap like the Walgreen's or Eckerd's kind.
I am completely "turned on" when a man wears nice expensive perfume on a
"clean and showered body" not on a dirty and sweaty body to cover the smells.
Like Astrid, I also comment on their nice smell and ask them what kind they are
wearing so I can suggest it to other men. I am in 100 percent agreement with
Astrid.
I have had so many bad experiences that I have opted to dance in open embrace
most of the times. I don't want to spend the rest of my life dancing in the
Milongas with my head turned and gagging through most of the dances, the
sacrifice is not worth it.
Pleasant scents and clean partners in all your Tangos,
Lydia
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:24:15 -0500
From: white95r <white95r@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Oh No! odours
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:35:33 -0600
From: Stephen Brown <Stephen.P.Brown@DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: Re: Oh No! odours
Although I enjoy dancing with a woman wearing nice perfume (not cheap
cologne), I would prefer the women I dance with wear their scents in such
a way that it does not rub off them onto me. A way that some women seem
to apply their cologne is to spray a cloud into the air and then walk
under it, getting it all over their clothes, which then comes off onto
anyone they dance with or greet with a hug.
And actually, I would prefer that the men not wear their cologne in a way
that rubs onto their partners. It is not nearly as interesting to dance
with a woman who smells like the men's cologne of the man she just danced
with.
With best regards,
Steve
Stephen Brown
Tango Argentino de Tejas
https://www.tejastango.com/
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:51:14 -0800
From: Ilona Koren-Deutsch <ilonakd@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Oh No! odours
--- astrid <astrid@RUBY.PLALA.OR.JP> wrote:
> Now, on that etiquette paragraph Ilona sent, I saw
> another point: "Go easy
> on the perfume and eau de cologne." Since I love
> perfume, the costly French
> and Italian kind, not the cheap stuff from the
> corner drugstore, I would
> like to ask the list: Is perfume, even a good one, a
> problem to many?
I'd say it depends on how much perfume, not on how
much it costs. I was always told that the correct
amount of fragrance for a woman means that a man can
smell it only when he's close enough to kiss you. (My
grandma had a way with words.) But that's probably a
fair point - I like fragrance, in small amounts. But
if someone's wearing enough for me to smell them when
they enter a room, it'll give me an asthma attack.
Amounts in between depend on the type of fragrance -
there are some notes to which I'm allergic, but others
are great. I believe fragrance allergies aren't
uncommon.
-Ilona
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:35:33 -0600
From: Stephen Brown <Stephen.P.Brown@DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: Re: Oh No! odours
Although I enjoy dancing with a woman wearing nice perfume (not cheap
cologne), I would prefer the women I dance with wear their scents in
such
a way that it does not rub off them onto me. A way that some women
seem
to apply their cologne is to spray a cloud into the air and then walk
under it, getting it all over their clothes, which then comes off onto
anyone they dance with or greet with a hug.
And actually, I would prefer that the men not wear their cologne in a
way
that rubs onto their partners. It is not nearly as interesting to
dance
with a woman who smells like the men's cologne of the man she just
danced
with.
With best regards,
Steve
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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 11:50:22 -0600
From: Stephen Brown <Stephen.P.Brown@DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: Re: Oh No! odours
Gary Fay wrote:
>I live over an hour away from most of the dance
>places in the area. Of of the most pleasant part
>of the drive home is smelling all the women you
>danced with that night.
I guess each us has our own tastes, but how you are able to smell all the
women I danced with that night is beyond me.
:-) :-) :-)
As may be noted, I simply stated my own preferences:
>I would prefer the women I dance with wear their scents in
>such a way that it does not rub off them onto me.
I wonder how women feel about dancing with men who are covered in women's
cologne because they have been dancing with a few highly scented women.
With best regards,
Steve (de Tejas)
Stephen Brown
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:56:03 -0600
From: Bibi Wong <bibibwong@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Oh No! odours
>Stepheodorsn wrote:
>Although I enjoy dancing with a woman wearing nice perfume, I would prefer
>the women I dance with wear their scents in such a way that it does not rub
>off them onto me.
I agree with him and have more thoughts:
I was briefly introduced the science of fragrance by a parfume chemist. He
said the art of wearing it is NOT to mix it. Like drinking tea mixed with
coffee and juice-- yuck!
So for a social setting, I would think that if one wants to wear a
fragrance, do not wear on the side where it will rub or pass onto your
partner.
The chemist told me not to spray fragrance onto our clothes (or showering in
it); not only it is expensive to waste a good fragrance that way, it will
stain our clothes. He advised me that it is the body heat and glands that
make the fragrance unique to each person. Isn't it the uniqueness of us the
reason why one wears a fragrance, rather than being a salesperson of brand
xyz?
So based on his advice, understanding that we embrace with our right hand
side in contact, I have singled out the best places to place fragrances are
at the pulse points such as behind the left ear, behind the ankle, under the
left jaw bones, on the left temple, right armpit, etc. and inside our
clothing.. (... I don't want to details on that one here).
I was told that our sense of smell is very powerful and subjective, thus the
real wine and tea tasters do not drink but judge the wine/tea with their
noses. The price of the fragrance may not have direct relationship with our
liking. So, a fragrance considered heavenly for the geese could be hellish
for the gender. Wearing a fragrance is running a risk that your partner
may not like it, or after you finish dancing with one partner, the fragrance
that is passed on to you may not be appreciated by the next partner, as
described by Stephen earlier.
I am neutral in the issue of wearing fragrance or not. Personally I don't
wear it so that my presence is registered solely via our dancing experience,
not by my dress, my hairdo, my make up or my scent. (hope not my odor ^.^)
It is interesting that animals mark their territories as their natural
instincts. Following that logics, if the dancer's intention is to "mark and
conquer" his/ her territory, I guess he/she can no only wear it, but bathe,
shampoo, launder with it before a milonga. :-).
Bibi
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:39:27 -0600
From: Lois Donnay <lois@MNDANCE.COM>
Subject: Oh No! odours
FACTS ABOUT SMELL:
Women's sense of smell is better than men's
As we get older it declines
We can smell happiness
Some dogs can differentiate between any two people's smells, except
identical twins.
Always be happy when you dance!
Lois
Minneapolis
