1676 Osvaldo Zotto & Mora Godoy videos in Japanese & French
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 16:26:09 -0400
From: Doug Pouliot <doug@THETANGOCATALOGUE.COM>
Subject: Osvaldo Zotto & Mora Godoy videos in Japanese & French
Hi guys,
Please tell your French & Japanese speaking friends that The 5 volume
instructional video series, produced by Solo Tango, with Osvaldo Zotto and
Mora Godoy, is now available in JAPANESE & FRENCH. Contact The Tango
Catalogue for more information.
Best,
Doug Pouliot
Operations Manager
The Tango Catalogue
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 06:21:59 +0100
From: Alex <alejandro.delmonte@NTLWORLD.COM>
Subject: Osvaldo Zotto & Mora Godoy
I've just got the teaching video series 'Asi se baila el tango' by the
above, and I'm quite puzzled that there isn't any mention of the man leading
the woman with his chest and opening from his shoulders in forward and back
ochos, yet I think understanding this is of the essence. Any comments on
this? How come they left this out? Thank you all.
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 08:32:48 -0700
From: Barbara Garvey <barbara@TANGOBAR-PRODUCTIONS.COM>
Subject: Re: Osvaldo Zotto & Mora Godoy
Alex has identified a weakness that extends to all commercially produced
teaching videos I've seen (and I've seen all but a couple that are easily
available). In tapes purporting to teach tango to beginning students there
is never enough mention of technique, posture, placement of the feet,
leading and following, etc. Although videos are not a very satisfactory way
to begin learning tango, a really well produced one would be very helpful
not only for those who live where there are no qualified teachers but as a
practice backup to reinforce lessons. And yet all the videos teach nothing
but steps.
The Zotto/Godoy tapes are puzzling in that not only do they make little or
no mention of technique, but although Osvaldo is one of the best dancers in
the world today, on the tapes his posture is pretty bad.
Has anyone any recommendations for really good beginning tango videos?
Hoping I'm wrong,
Barbara
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Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 10:21 PM
Subject: [TANGO-L] Osvaldo Zotto & Mora Godoy
> I've just got the teaching video series 'Asi se baila el tango' by the
> above, and I'm quite puzzled that there isn't any mention of the man
leading
> the woman with his chest and opening from his shoulders in forward and
back
> ochos, yet I think understanding this is of the essence. Any comments on
> this? How come they left this out? Thank you all.
>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:14:22 -0700
From: Tango Guy <tangomundo55@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Osvaldo Zotto & Mora Godoy
Alex
There are many styles of Tango Argentino. The Tango of Zotto and Godoy is of a more traditional style then the familiar Salon style we do today. The more traditional styles weren't led with the chest but with the arms. Why was this? Well Tango, like most everything, evolves from simple forms toward more complex forms. Early Tango was danced in a more simple form and as the decades passed, different and hopefully better techniques developed. One of those techniques was the chest lead.
I have learned Salon style and I have opted to learn a more traditional style. It's interesting because I notice that many of the moves and figures are but embryonic forms now found in Salon Style. For example: the voleo. In traditional style the voleo was done in a slow easy way. But with the advent of the chest lead, it became possible to do the whipping voleo.
Traditional styles of Tango are still with us today but mostly in South America.
I hope this answers the question.
Warm Regards
Tango Guy
Alex <alejandro.delmonte@NTLWORLD.COM> wrote:
I've just got the teaching video series 'Asi se baila el tango' by the
above, and I'm quite puzzled that there isn't any mention of the man leading
the woman with his chest and opening from his shoulders in forward and back
ochos, yet I think understanding this is of the essence. Any comments on
this? How come they left this out? Thank you all.
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:29:54 -0700
From: Bruno <romerob@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Subject: Re: Osvaldo Zotto & Mora Godoy
>The Tango of Zotto and Godoy is of a more traditional style then the
familiar Salon style we do today. The more traditional styles weren't led
with the chest but with the arms. Why was this? Well Tango, like most
everything, evolves from simple forms toward more complex forms. Early Tango
was danced in a more simple form and as the decades passed, different and
hopefully better techniques developed. One of those techniques was the chest
lead.<
It seems that those who saw their elders dance tango the old fashioned way
change the dance themselves. The norm was and is that the better dancers
have their own style. In hindsight tango appeared to have evolved into a
more eye pleasant form because of the music changes that took place about
1939 with the introduction of Julio De Caro's music style. Tango dancers
began dancing separated as opposed to a close embraced form that will
justify a chest lead. Why? This was to accommodate elements such as
sobrepaso, giros, barridas, etc that would better interpret the new tango
melodies. In Gabriel Angio's interview to Lampazo the latter shared that the
choreographic element that made changes possible in the tango dance was the
"sobrepaso" -- I believe this refers to the extra step that allows switching
legs from a parallel to a cross foot system. Lampazo argues that since 1939
and 1961 to the present there has not been many innovations in the Tango
dance in terms of choreographic elements. Rather dancers continue making
variations on what has been invented already. This lack of creativity in
choreographic elements according to Gabriel is perhaps related to a lack of
creative dancers, and perhaps to the way the Tango dance is taught and
learned these days. Students copy the instructor movements and steps,
instead of adding a personal signature or varying the choreographic element
altogether, which it was the way people learned in the past. Being creative
was the norm the more the better. What do you think?
Regards,
Bruno
