1561 Robot Waltzer.
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:18:37 -0400
From: A Coleman <gurps_npc@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Robot Waltzer.
This web site:
https://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_800705.html
discusses a japanese Robot that can Follow the Waltz.
Tango might be just a couple of innovations away.
New arguement:
Should they become available, is it better to learn to lead using a robot
follower, that will always do what you tell it to, or a beginner human being
that will make mistakes.
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:48:03 -0300
From: Alberto Gesualdi <clambat2001@YAHOO.COM.AR>
Subject: Robot waltzer
The website mentioned in recent posting
https://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_800705.html
includes a description of a robot that have been programmed to anticipate the movements of a dancer, by pressure sensors on shoulders and hands/arms.
It is a replicant , a machine that makes a countermove using as input the move that the human part produces. Huge quantities of programming time have been necessary to make a frame of action within whom this machine could work.
It does not look like a follower , there is not a presence , but a programmed reaction.
Alberto Gesualdi
Buenos Aires
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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:48 AM
To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: [TANGO-L] Robot waltzer
The website mentioned in recent posting
https://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_800705.html
includes a description of a robot that have been programmed to anticipate
the movements of a dancer, by pressure sensors on shoulders and hands/arms.
It is a replicant , a machine that makes a countermove using as input the
move that the human part produces. Huge quantities of programming time have
been necessary to make a frame of action within whom this machine could
work.
It does not look like a follower , there is not a presence , but a
programmed reaction.
Alberto Gesualdi
Buenos Aires
Usuario: yahoo; contraseqa: yahoo
Desde Buenos Aires: 4004-1010
Mas ciudades: clic aqum.
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:52:41 +1000
From: Gary <garybarn@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Robot Waltzer.
I believe you cannot tell a follower what to do, you can only ask.
Dancing with a 'beginner human being' does complicate the learning in some
ways, as there are mistakes being made by both partners. I think every
leader benefits by trying their dancing on excellent followers - then you
can be clearer about which problems are yours alone. But dancing with other
beginners also has major advantages - in particular, you get experience,
right from the start, in dancing _with_ your partner, whoever they may be,
and however they dance.
But a 'perfect follower' is not a blank slate - they are a strong,
passionate personality of their own, that form half the dance.
Dancing with a robot probably just makes you good at dancing with a robot...
It is unlikely either of you would end up dancing tango in anything but the
most banal sense.
Anyway, in most tango communities there seems to be no shortage of followers
- so much so that good followers will dance with complete beginners who
(inadvertently) treat them like, well, robots - just to be dancing at all.
(Thankyou all for your patience!).
Now, if we can develop the Tango Leaderbot, we might have a worthwhile
project. Perhaps it could have a Prime Directive to never tread on the
followers feet...
my 2c worth
Gary
it seems that around 22/07/03 3:18 AM, A Coleman at gurps_npc@HOTMAIL.COM
wrote (among other things):
> Should they become available, is it better to learn to lead using a robot
> follower, that will always do what you tell it to, or a beginner human being
> that will make mistakes.
