3258 Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:21:43 -0800
From: Michael Tissington <michael@OAKLODGE.COM>
Subject: Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
Can folks recommend good eating places in Buenos Aires for vegetarians.
Thanks.
Michael Tissington
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:21:20 +0100
From: Christian Lüthen <christian.luethen@GMX.NET>
Subject: Re: Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
No worries, Micheal!
You can survive easily!
Just command a salad! :-)
Also there are enough 'all you can eat' ["eat until you're dead"]
places ...
... they all have salad!!!
Otherwise: Try neighbourhoods as Palermo:
Artists frequent these areas ...
... little tiny restaurants will definitely serve your needs.
And, as allways: some knowledge of spanish will help,
open a lot of doors of friendlyness!
Enjoy Buenos Aires!
Christian
On 23 Feb 2005 at 9:21, Michael Tissington wrote:
> Can folks recommend good eating places in Buenos Aires for
> vegetarians.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Michael Tissington
> https://www.oaklodge.com
> https://www.tabtag.com
>
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:57:01 -0000
From: Daniel Iannarelli <dmi@OSTEOPATH.THERAPIST.ORG.UK>
Subject: Re: Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
Hi Michael.
Being a veggie in Argentina could at one time be quite daunting as it was
quite an unusual thing in such a beef-orientated country (I'm actually
'pescatarian'... i.e. I don't eat anything that runs or flies). Apparently,
since the 1980s vegetarian restaurants have become relatively commonplace
and also mostly non-smoking...! :-) Excellent!
I've been to Buenos Aires 6 times and certainly the main thing to watch out
for is that it's not enough to mumble "sin carne" (without meat) in your
best quasi-Castellano. Trouble is that in doing so, you'll often find that
your meal is presented to you full of ham! They don't consider ham in the
meat category! This is important but easy to forget while hungry and in the
hustle and bustle of ordering your grub.
On my first visit 7/8 years ago, I remember popping in to a restaurant and
ordering a dish (can't quite now remember what it was). I distinctly told
the waiter "sin carne". It came to me riddled with HAM!!! Lots of it!
Anyway, I tried to make them understand that I didn't want ham, that it was
no good to me as I couldn't eat it. Okay, well, they obliged by taking the
meal away to replace it. It came back to me (the exact same dish) with the
ham picked out of it with God only knows what...! Fingers? Toes? Toilet
brush? God knows! Anyhow, I knew it was exactly the same meal as there were
bits of ham still in amongst the now disturbed matrix of the meal! As an
non-Castellano-speaking alien in a strange country and therefore being at a
somewhat disadvantage, I decided to cut my losses, pay for the meal I didn't
touch and just leave.
Saying "sin carne" is simply not good enough... you also have to declare, in
fact insist, "sin jamon" (without ham).
You will also find that in your scrambled eggs at breakfast, they mix in
...yes, you've guessed it...HAM!!! In my hotel last year at CITA, the head
waiter/maitre d' was good enough to have some 'hamless' scrambled eggs made
up for myself personally every morning.
Also, watch out when you order what seems like a meat-free pasta dish. Quite
often, what seems to be an excellent vegetarian option may come with a meat
or ham-infested sugo (Italian sauce)! I can't drive it home enough: "sin
carne y sin jamon!". Declare you're allergic or something...
As far as specific vegetarian restaurants are concerned, over the 6 times
I've been there I've visited three different vegetarian restaurants.
The first one I found (a number of years ago) was downtown somewhere. I'm
sorry (and I'll be saying this to you a lot) but I don't know the name of it
nor the street it's in. It was pretty good, actually.
However, there is a great one (Chinese run) on Avenida Cordoba on the
right-hand side going up towards the junction with Av Callao. The name? I'm
pretty sure (if I remember correctly) it's 'The Lotus' or simply 'Lotus'.
This is a self-serve type restaurant, but not 'all you can eat'... you pay
for what you put on your plates. The Chinese staff, I found, were all
extremely nice, helpful and friendly people.
Last year, I found another one very close to the CITA venues (I don't know
how I missed it on previous visits). Basically, it's 'all you can pack onto
your plates' ...pick a very large plate :-) Good quality food and VERY
reasonably priced. This restaurant is on Sarmiento in the first quadra
(block) from the junction with Callao. I think it's called "Ratatouille" but
I'm not too sure. I don't know if you're going to CITA in a few weeks,
Michael, but it's on Sarmiento between the 'COM' CITA venue and Av Callao.
If you are going, I'll probably see you in the restaurant!
To finish off this 'thesis', here's something I took from 'THE ROUGH GUIDE':
"Asados (Asado (from asar , to roast) originally referred to a particular
cut of beef, the brisket, meant to be slowly grilled or roasted, but now
refers to the barbecue as a process and a rite) are not for vegetarians ,
unless an evening of grilled cheese and salad appeals. Asian or Middle
Eastern food (things like stir-fries, hummus and tabbouleh) may be the
answer to vegetarians' prayers; in such a carnivorous land, real vegetarian
food is very hard to come by and the phrase "no como carne" (I don't eat
meat) is sometimes dismissed with a glib "no tiene mucha" (It doesn't
contain much, referring to a pizza with a slice or two of ham on it, for
example). That said, many locals are becoming aware of the health hazards of
eating too much meat (an obsession with ácido úrico has become a nationwide
mania), and health-food shops and "green" restaurants, some of them cooking
very good food, are cropping up in towns and cities right across Argentina.
The other way to survive, apart from self-catering, is on a diet of
omelettes, cheese empanadas , fondues or salads. Vegans ill have a very hard
time - veganism is unheard of in the country - and should be prepared for a
constant battle of wits]".
How true!
Good luck, Michael.
Regards
Dani
Dani Iannarelli
Edinburgh
Scotland UK
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Subject: [TANGO-L] Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
Can folks recommend good eating places in Buenos Aires for vegetarians.
Thanks.
Michael Tissington
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:10:57 -0500
From: Ira Goldstein <eyegee@TWCNY.RR.COM>
Subject: Re: Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
Hi, Michael--
Great vegetarian restaurant named BIO; I don't remmeber the address,
you'll have to look it up--in Palermo Viejo, as I recall.
Enjoy!
--Ira
Ithaca, NY
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>Can folks recommend good eating places in Buenos Aires for vegetarians.
>
>Thanks.
>
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:45:58 +0100
From: Lloica Czackis <mezzo@LLOICACZACKIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Argentinian Veggie Cuisine (was Vegetarian in Buenos Aires)
To put a bit of hope into this issue...
A mouth watering alternative to meet & ham is good old pizza, which tends to
be superb and widely available. Argentina produces some of the best pizzas
in the world (ok, I AM Argentinian, but trust me). There are dozens of
popular flavours, a personal favourite being "fugazzeta" (filled with
mozzarella cheese and topped with on onions), not to be confused with
"fugazza", which just has a cheese & onion topping. Try, for example, the
pizzería "Las Cuartetas", a veritable icon of Buenos Aires.
Also, in asados, and also available in restaurants, try the "provoleta":
grilled provolone cheese. It comes spiced or plane.
Another must is "empanadas", a kind of Cornish pasties but with different
dough, with a variety of fillings, with plenty of veggie options such as
"humita" (corn; a traditional south-american), spinach & cheese, etc.
If you are self catering you might want to try your corner pasta shop.
Remember that Buenos Aires has a 40% of Italian ancestry. Also, in the
"dietéticas" shops you can find meat replacements and such rarities.
As to veggie restaurants, there used to be one called "La esquina de las
flores", in Av. Córdoba. Not sure it's still there.
Buen provecho,
Lloica
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Lloica Czackis
www.lloicaczackis.com/tangele.htm
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Can folks recommend good eating places in Buenos Aires for vegetarians.
Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:48:49 +0100
From: Hélène Eckert <Helene.Eckert@ITU.INT>
Subject: RE : [TANGO-L] Argentinian Veggie Cuisine (w as Vegetarian in Buenos Aires)
Last time I was in Buenos Aires, I went to La esquina..., but was slighly disappointed, still more with the shop part... I wa stold by a =
vegan friend about a resaturant called Krishna, near Scalabrini ortiz y gorriti...
Hélène
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Subject: [TANGO-L] Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
Can folks recommend good eating places in Buenos Aires for vegetarians.
Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:47:02 -0800
From: "Carrie E. Bodensteiner" <bodenst-tango25606@MAILBLOCKS.COM>
Subject: Re: Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
Here's a page that lists four vegetarian restaurants in BsAs, including
BIO with full address, and reviews:
https://www.igougo.com/planning/JournalDestination.asp?LocationIDR4&Mode=3
Carrie B.
~~~~~~~~
"Guys, to dance tango, you must listen to the heart of the woman."
--Cacho Dante
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Sent: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:10:57 -0500
Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
Hi, Michael--
Great vegetarian restaurant named BIO; I don't remmeber the address,
you'll have to look it up--in Palermo Viejo, as I recall.
Enjoy!
--Ira
Ithaca, NY
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>
>Can folks recommend good eating places in Buenos Aires for
vegetarians.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Michael Tissington
>https://www.oaklodge.com
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:38:20 +0100
From: Petra Starmans <petra.starmans@BEFREE.CH>
Subject: Re: RE : [TANGO-L] Argentinian Veggie Cuisine (w as Vegetarian in Buenos Aires)
Salut Helène
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 05:22:56 -0500
From: ako <ako31@NYC.RR.COM>
Subject: Re: Vegetarian in Buenos Aires (5)
On Feb 24, 2005, at 3:00 AM, TANGO-L automatic digest system wrote:
> Vegetarian in Buenos Aires (5)another list of restaurants:
a list of veggie restaaurants:
https://godsdirectcontact.us/com/vegetarian/veg.files/sheet004.htm
it takes a lot of travel in ba to eat vegetarian.
i tell people i live on bread and cheese when there.
but the croissants are better than in paris!
eat well, dance well
!
andrea
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 05:43:23 -0500
From: ako <ako31@NYC.RR.COM>
Subject: Vegetarian in Buenos Aires (5)
On Feb 24, 2005, at 3:00 AM, TANGO-L automatic digest system wrote:
> Vegetarian in Buenos Aires (5)
i forgot-
for an elegant lunch the alvear palace hotel has a beautiful lunch
buffet with many great veggie dishes
and the best dessert room
!
andrea
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:09:18 -0300
From: Alberto Gesualdi <clambat2001@YAHOO.COM.AR>
Subject: Re: Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
Well. talking about vegetarian in Buenos Aires for Michael....
It dependes where you are staying Michael . I recommend in a private mail the Granix restaurant, because it is in Florida pedestrian street, an easy spot to find since it is in Guemes Gallery , 1st floor, and in the same place , underground level, is the Museum Piazzolla. It looks better for an everyday schedule.
Now this BIO restaurant mentioned by Ira Goldstein , yes, it is in Palermo neighbourhood, the so called Palermo Hollywood area . It serves macrobiotic food, made out from organic ingredientes (without fertilizers & pesticides).Prices are a bit more expensive due to this organic ingredients.
I think they have other activities besides restaurant (meditation, seminars of body movement, yoga,etc.etc.)
Bio
Humboldt 2199 - Ciudad de Buenos Aires
Tel. 4774-3880
Palermo
Salads : If you like this option , there are a chain of pizza makers that also offers salads pret a porter, the customer chooses what ingredients he/she wants , up to three different ingredients are not charged as aditional, from the fourth ingredient on, a small charge is added. Helpings are big, with one salad can eat two persons reasonably, a light midday meal.
There is one La Continental premise nearby Zival4s music store at Callao and Corrientes ( over Callao heading to side street Sarmiento). And there is another one one block ahead,over Callao, between Sarmiento and Presidente Peron street.
Pizza: I dont like the pizzas of Las cuartetas, they are too greasy. I think Los inmortales are a bit better , also they offer barbecue meat as their everyday menus.
Barbecues: Foreign visitors (tango visitor) whom I talk , have mixed feelings about the barbecues. The first day they arrived, they found fascinating the argentine meat. But if you are in a tango visit, with a tight schedule , having workshops, seminars, classes and milongas ...... Meat is not a light food , and if you are not accustomed , it produces a countereffect , digestion is slow and so on .
Is funny but local natives at Buenos Aires does not eat red meat in barbecue as it may be considered beforehand. Red meat consumption drop the last years , being replaced by white meat ( chicken ) and some pork meat . Although fish is quite good, it is not widely consumed, except during the lent christian days . Local jewish community have excellent meats with fish like the defilde fish (is it the name ??) and other delicious plates.
But this days we are having extreme wet and hot weather, and the chain of freeze is not so well kept at the restaurants by night, due to small cuts of electricity that are made during the night by electric companies.
So the best choice will be still , salads with plenty lemon juice and vinegar to kill any bacteria just in case . And pizza that is placed in an oven at 300 degrees, that kills everything :):)
If there is someone wishing to know abut other options of food, I can answer in private mails, I don t think people not coming to Buenos Aires will find the information useful
warm regards
alberto
Ira Goldstein <eyegee@TWCNY.RR.COM> wrote:
Hi, Michael--
Great vegetarian restaurant named BIO; I don't remmeber the address,
you'll have to look it up--in Palermo Viejo, as I recall.
Enjoy!
--Ira
Ithaca, NY
>
>
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>
>Can folks recommend good eating places in Buenos Aires for vegetarians.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Michael Tissington
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 05:32:56 -0800
From: Diane Hillbrant <diane_hillbrant@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
Michael,
I do not remember the name of the resturant, but I ate at one at Umberto and Peru in the San Telmo area. It is primarily for lunch but I did eat an early dinner there several times. Many times the menu contained something with tofu. They also had an area with refrigerated foods that you could use to cook for yourself. I did not purchase any of these items but they looked good. They also have a limited selection of organic crackers, cookies and bread, all freshly baked. Mate' too!
Diane
Michael Tissington <michael@OAKLODGE.COM> wrote:
Can folks recommend good eating places in Buenos Aires for vegetarians.
Thanks.
Michael Tissington
https://www.oaklodge.com
https://www.tabtag.com
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:56:52 -0500
From: Doug Pouliot <doug@THETANGOCATALOGUE.COM>
Subject: Re: Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
Hi all,
I had an experience in Buenos Aires at a "vegetarian restaurant" on Florida
St. walking mall. All the food looked great but when I ate it my body's
response was that it was all over cooked, no nutriental value. The only
thing that was bursting with vitamins was the wholegrain bun.
Doug
on 2/24/05 5:22 AM, ako at ako31@NYC.RR.COM wrote:
> On Feb 24, 2005, at 3:00 AM, TANGO-L automatic digest system wrote:
>
>> Vegetarian in Buenos Aires (5)another list of restaurants:
>
> a list of veggie restaaurants:
>
> https://godsdirectcontact.us/com/vegetarian/veg.files/sheet004.htm
>
> it takes a lot of travel in ba to eat vegetarian.
>
> i tell people i live on bread and cheese when there.
>
> but the croissants are better than in paris!
>
> eat well, dance well
>
> !
>
> andrea
>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:52:17 -0500
From: Nitinkibe@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Vegetarian in Buenos Aires
Try a South Asian, or more specifically, Indian or Nepali restaurant. The division of the food world into vegetarian and non-vegetarian is very well established and sharply defined in India/Nepal. And veg means veg: sometimes not even onions or garlic. Jamon or fish as veg would be inconceivable.
Two examples below from Bs As, of which the second, Hare Krishna, sounds more "pukka" (Hindi for strict) vegeterian.
1. Katmandu, Avenida Csrdoba 3547, Capital Federal, Buenos Aires 1188 Argentina
Phone: +54 11 49631122 - indianrest@impsatl.com.ar
2. Hare Krishna, Avenida Alvear 1777, local 12, Capital Federal, Buenos Aires 1014 Argentina
Phone: +54 11 48168988
Good wishes to all.
Nitin Kibe
Washington DC
