3281 What Women Want
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 12:11:33 -0800
From: Yale Tango Club <yaletangoclub@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: What Women Want
Hola Listeros
I was just sharing lunch with a tango friend and of course we discussed only tango. He asked me very earnestly WHAT WOMEN WANT.
He knew the latest expensive move is not at the top of the list. I thought for a bit about what I want, and came up with some things I list below.
This friend thought that was valuable information (from the Mars/Venus point of view) and we decided to ask around and list some of the good input we receive on our website.
So please let me know your point of view! I don't want to do any heavy editing so please send me ONE paragraph (two if you have 2 points to make), i.e. don't send me all your thoughts only the interesting ones. Please put it between words QUOTE and UNQUOTE and IF you want a name listed, include it between the quotes, eg
QUOTE What women like is blablabla. Malena from NYC. UNQUOTE otherwise I'll include it anonymously.
Just to be clear, the question is WHAT WOMEN WANT in general, meaning what is most likely to produce at least a very special warm fuzzy satisfied content feeling at the end of the set, and a desire to dance more with the same guy. The setting is a nice pleasant milonga (not a practica).
Women like to feel that they are good followers, i.e. they are able to receive and follow as many of the leads as possible. It can be stressful to be continually challenged to the edge of their ability because they might mess up a portion of the time and feel inadequate or clumsy as a result.
Women like to be allowed to stay on their balance (assuming they are able to keep their balance), it doesn't feel good to feel like you might topple or swing out of control at any moment. Being off her balance reminds a woman she's not weightless.
Women like a natural and musical interpretation of the music; it is very satisfying to pause on a break, draw out the move on the melody, and receive a double time ON the double time, not to mention a good ending.
Women like a snug embrace that gives a bit with the flow of the dance, and can be readjusted at the appropriate time. I personally like the thoughtful adjustment a lot.
Women may not like it if a complete stranger presumes to do certain invasive moves on them, e.g. leg wraps, and it becomes especially painful if a guy doesn't get the message and keeps forcing the non-leg-wrap by remaining in the position and repeating the hoisting manoever
Women like it when their momentum and inertia is used to inspire the lead, this is as opposed to the fight that results when a guy manhandles you to go into a direction you're not going into naturally.
...
There are things that Men Think Women Want But Women Don't Find That Important
Lots of different moves even if they don't work so well (also known as the Temptation of Complexity)
...
OK, bring them on (your comments)!
Thanks
Tine
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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 13:33:50 -0800
From: "Carrie E. Bodensteiner" <bodenst-tango25606@MAILBLOCKS.COM>
Subject: Re: What Women Want
What I want (I would never presume to speak for all women!):
I want to breathe with your breath, move to the pulse of the music
through the beat of your heart, surrender myself to you (and you to me)
with joy, and share eternity with you in the space of a few dances. And
of course, I want you to make me feel like a goddess-- if only for that
brief, exquisite encounter.
What do men want?
Beautiful tangos to all,
Carrie B.
~~~~~~~~
"Guys, to dance tango, you must listen to the heart of the woman."
--Cacho Dante
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 12:11:33 -0800
Subject: [TANGO-L] What Women Want
Hola Listeros
I was just sharing lunch with a tango friend and of course we discussed
only
tango. He asked me very earnestly WHAT WOMEN WANT.
He knew the latest expensive move is not at the top of the list. I
thought for a
bit about what I want, and came up with some things I list below.
This friend thought that was valuable information (from the Mars/Venus
point of
view) and we decided to ask around and list some of the good input we
receive on
our website.
So please let me know your point of view! I don't want to do any heavy
editing
so please send me ONE paragraph (two if you have 2 points to make),
i.e. don't
send me all your thoughts only the interesting ones. Please put it
between words
QUOTE and UNQUOTE and IF you want a name listed, include it between
the quotes,
eg
QUOTE What women like is blablabla. Malena from NYC. UNQUOTE otherwise
I'll
include it anonymously.
Just to be clear, the question is WHAT WOMEN WANT in general, meaning
what is
most likely to produce at least a very special warm fuzzy satisfied
content
feeling at the end of the set, and a desire to dance more with the same
guy. The
setting is a nice pleasant milonga (not a practica).
Women like to feel that they are good followers, i.e. they are able
to
receive and follow as many of the leads as possible. It can be
stressful to be
continually challenged to the edge of their ability because they might
mess up a
portion of the time and feel inadequate or clumsy as a result.
Women like to be allowed to stay on their balance (assuming they are
able to
keep their balance), it doesn't feel good to feel like you might topple
or swing
out of control at any moment. Being off her balance reminds a woman
she's not
weightless.
Women like a natural and musical interpretation of the music; it is
very
satisfying to pause on a break, draw out the move on the melody, and
receive a
double time ON the double time, not to mention a good ending.
Women like a snug embrace that gives a bit with the flow of the
dance, and
can be readjusted at the appropriate time. I personally like the
thoughtful
adjustment a lot.
Women may not like it if a complete stranger presumes to do certain
invasive
moves on them, e.g. leg wraps, and it becomes especially painful if a
guy
doesn't get the message and keeps forcing the non-leg-wrap by remaining
in the
position and repeating the hoisting manoever
Women like it when their momentum and inertia is used to inspire the
lead,
this is as opposed to the fight that results when a guy manhandles you
to go
into a direction you're not going into naturally.
...
There are things that Men Think Women Want But Women Don't Find That
Important
Lots of different moves even if they don't work so well (also known
as the
Temptation of Complexity)
...
OK, bring them on (your comments)!
Thanks
Tine
************************
Tango Club at Yale
YaleTangoClub@yahoo.com
www.yaletangoclub.org
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aggravate
anybody. Thanks!
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 16:56:00 -0600
From: "Christopher L. Everett" <ceverett@CEVERETT.COM>
Subject: Re: What Women Want
Carrie E. Bodensteiner wrote:
> What I want (I would never presume to speak for all women!):
>
> I want to breathe with your breath, move to the pulse of the music
> through the beat of your heart, surrender myself to you (and you to me)
> with joy, and share eternity with you in the space of a few dances. And
> of course, I want you to make me feel like a goddess-- if only for that
> brief, exquisite encounter.
>
> What do men want?
Women with presence; nothing worse than trying to dance with a
gaseous vertebrate, that proceeds to complain that you're trying
to dance a solo.
Who believes a man can treat a goddess poorly without suffering
Divine Retribution? For that matter, can a man embrace a goddess
and not know it?
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:24:39 -0800
From: Rick Jones <rwjones@FROZENGRAVITY.COM>
Subject: Re: What Women Want
According to my wife, what a woman wants from a man in tango is the same
thing she wants from a man in anything else: politeness, attention, a
delicate touch, a little bit of humor, a little bit of intrigue, and
every once in a while a burst of passion.
Rick Jones
Washington DC
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 21:48:08 -0500
From: Michael <tangomaniac@CAVTEL.NET>
Subject: Re: What Women Want
Hello Tine:
I wrote an article on this very topic for the now defunct magazine "La Voz del Tango." I asked the question "What do
you want in a partner" and got three major responses
- They want to hold and be held
-Firm but gentle lead. Firm doesn't mean stiff. The lead is so clear (from the chest) there is no room for misunderstanding. Pushing and =
pulling does not improve leading.
-Whatever a man leads, they want it to be on time to the music.
Michael Ditkoff
Washington, DC
One week to Washington Tango Marathon
Why is it called Marathon? We dance 26.2 miles.
> Hola Listeros
> I was just sharing lunch with a tango friend and of course > we discussed only tango. He asked me very earnestly WHAT
> WOMEN WANT.
>
> Thanks
> Tine
