2948  FAMOUS TANGO TEACHER ......WHERE?

Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:51:28 -0300
From: CARLOS AMOK <desdelejosetejuna@YAHOO.COM.AR>
Subject: Re: FAMOUS TANGO TEACHER ......WHERE?

--- CARLOS AMOK <desdelejosetejuna@yahoo.com.ar>
escribis:

Nicole, this is for you, (at the end , more bad news,
I am sorry)

> Please, ask him about the shows in general, you can
> get a big surprise.- I Will very glad, more then
> you.
> Also please, ask him to publish 2 lines about your
> "high" level and dance and recognaizing.-
> I never can convince you ...till you learn Tango
> Argentino...-
> After that you will be shame...please, don't erase
> your emails this this moment.
> Btw. the mans in the list don'show very much inerest
> to dance with you. Somebody ask about your ballroom
> background....
> doesn't sound so succesfully like you try to show.-
> Also your technical comments looks too ballroom and
> choreograph ideas.... from where comes? from your
> "Tango for Export " teachers?
> Excuse my bad English
> Carlos
> Buenos Aires

The bad news: I receive 2 private emails from mens
from your area talking about your tango is a Ballroom-
Choreograph dance. And there you are not cosidere a
good tango dancer,. Unfortunatly they ask me not
publish her names.
Other email against you: some body told me couldn't
find you in the web like a Tango Teacher .-
Not news about your fans or students....Why?
Sorry for the bad news
Just try to learn, and everything will be changed
have a good day
Carlos.-

>
> --- bailadora2000@EXCITE.COM escribis:
> >
> > Carlos wrote:
> > The people who dance Argentine tango have nothing
> to
> > do with the
> > shows, and b) their beloved "Teachers and Show
> > Dancers" neither frequent nor frequented the dance
> > floors or MILONGAS, except for nowadays the former
> > [teachers] at places where the _market of
> potential
> > foreign potential students_ meets. (There are also
> > honorable exceptions, very few.)
> >
> > I'll be glad to tell Miquel Zotto next time he is
> in
> > town that you said that. Renowned as a
> > choreographer and performer of Tango x 2, yes, but
> > he also grew up in the milongas and still
> frequents
> > them regularly. He is only one example of these
> > teachers you seem to disregard who is a true
> > milonguero and dances only as such when dancing in
> a
> > milonga, and understands the difference to what
> you
> > put on stage and what you dance on the floor.
> > Carlos, you really seriously believe that teachers
> > teach one thing down there and then teach another
> > thing here? So, they've invented a tango form to
> > export? Well, I know tons of people who have
> studied
> > in both areas who would contradict that. And you
> > can't convince me there is only one way being
> taught
> > in BA. I know many that will contradict that too.
> >
> > Nicole
> > Miami
> >
> > --- On Thu 10/28, Ming Mar < ming_mar@YAHOO.COM >
> > wrote:
> > From: Ming Mar [mailto: ming_mar@YAHOO.COM]
> > To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:58:05 -0700
> > Subject: [TANGO-L] TABOO SUBJECT TRANSLATION WORK
> > ORDER
> >
> > I didn't see anyone do the translation. So, I
> > thought<br>I'd try it. I don't speak Spanish.
> > There were parts<br>I wasn't sure of.<br><br> ---
> > translation below ---------<br><br>TABOO SUBJECT
> > TRANSLATION WORK ORDER, I request that<br>somebody
> > translates this.<br><br>Dear members of the
> > *Argentine* Tango list,<br><br>There exists from
> > part of the foreign public<br>(USA-Europe-Asia,
> > etc.) an honest absolute _belief_ in<br>the Tango
> > Argentino that they get -- to such a point<br>that
> > the majority believe that the great shows
> > that<br>inspire them (Tango Argentino, Forever
> > Tango, Tango<br>Pasion, and others) opened in
> > Argentina and therefore<br>represent it. They did
> > not open (premier) in<br>Argentina, or they tried
> it
> > after worldwide success<br>and failed. I have
> > received from various Argentineans<br>the
> expressed
> > order to not touch this taboo subject<br>because
> it
> > would be bad for business. As I am
> > not<br>interested in business, I shall
> > continue.<br><br>Do foreigners think that the
> stuff
> > they get from<br>traveling teachers (more or less
> > *performers*) is the<br>same Tango Argentino (or
> > some form of its evolution)<br>that also exists in
> > Buenos Aires? I invite everyone<br>to Buenos
> Aires
> > to verify two things: a) The people<br>who dance
> > Argentine tango have nothing to do with
> > the<br>shows, and b) their beloved "Teachers and
> > Show<br>Dancers" neither frequent nor frequented
> the
> > dance<br>floors or MILONGAS, except for nowadays
> the
> > former<br>[teachers] at places where the _market
> of
> > potential<br>foreign potential students_ meets.
> > (There are also<br>honorable exceptions, very
> few.)
> > The consequence of<br>this: with a _naive_
> attitude
> > a large part of the<br>foreign public consumes a
> > Tango Argentino that doesn't<br>exist here (but
> > thanks to which we receive many<br>visitors who
> help
> > us with their presence). I know<br>that this is a
> > subject that will not be received
> with<br>pleasure,
> > but it is good to discover it
> someday.<br><br>Yours
> > truly,<br><br>Carlos<br>Buenos Aires<br>Good
> >
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:38:34 -0700
From: Huck Kennedy <huck@ENSMTP1.EAS.ASU.EDU>
Subject: Re: FAMOUS TANGO TEACHER ......WHERE?

CARLOS AMOK <desdelejosetejuna@yahoo.com.ar> writes:

>
> The bad news: I receive 2 private emails from mens
> from your area talking about your tango is a Ballroom-
> Choreograph dance. And there you are not cosidere a
> good tango dancer,. Unfortunatly they ask me not
> publish her names.
> Other email against you: some body told me couldn't
> find you in the web like a Tango Teacher .-
> Not news about your fans or students....Why?
> Sorry for the bad news
> Just try to learn, and everything will be changed
> have a good day
> Carlos.-

No conozco a Nicole, y no me importa si todos
estes chismes sean verdaderos o no: En todo caso
claro que usted no es caballero.

Huck

Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:50:55 EDT
From: FRSASSON@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FAMOUS TANGO TEACHER ......WHERE?

Para Carlos Amok y para que el mundo de tango lo pueda leer.

Sr. Carlos Amok:

Sólo faltaría que usted le preguntara a cualquiera de los profesionales de
tango que hayan pasado por Miami, que calidad de bailarina es Nicole !

Todos los que han tenido el infinito placer de tenerla en sus brazos y de
sentir una pluma, siguiendo los pasos mas complicados que quieran presentarsele,
aún sin ensayos, Nicole es suficientemente diestra, para seguir, coreografiar
y hacer ver al bailarín como un gran marcador aun que no lo sea.

El mundo del tango, está creciendo en nivel mundial a pasos agigantados, por
personas como Nicole; dedicada al baile y a la enseñanza del baile, uno de sus
logros más increíbles ha sido el Miami Dance Machine, que son niños entre 6 y
12 años de edad, de bajos recursos, a los cuales Nicole les ha enseñado a
bailar, ha coreografiado presentaciones, y los ha llevado a ganarse muchos
premios, no sólo en tango, sino tambien en muchos otros tipos de danza.

Sus comentarios hacia una dama de una belleza física, moral y emocional como
Nicole, sin conocerla, lo demuestran a usted cómo una persona burda, mal
educada y llena de un ego personal tan arraigado, que no permite que usted pueda
ver los atributos de otras personas, que aunque usted no lo crea, lo superan
infinítamente.

Que derecho tiene usted de insultar a una dama como Nicole, y de hacerlo
públicamente en un forum como Tango L?

Frank Sasson
Miami Florida