5602  genre bendre

Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:49:17 -0500
From: Joe Grohens <joe.grohens@gmail.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] genre bendre
To: tango-L@mit.edu
Cc: Joe Grohens <joe.grohens@gmail.com>

As long as we are redefining categories for the dancing people do, I
have a little taxonomic survey.


Here is a video of Pablo Inza and Mariela Sametband dancing to "Via
Con Me" by Paolo Conte.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvMPXyR0qg0

How would you classify the following things?

- The music? (e.g., "swing")

- The dancing they are doing to this music? (e.g., "swing")

- The dancers? (e.g., "swing dancers")

If possible, justify your label.

Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:19:39 -0400
From: melvillefox@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] genre bendre
To: tango-L@mit.edu

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Subject: [Tango-L] genre bendre

> As long as we are redefining categories for the dancing people do, I

have a little taxonomic survey.

> Here is a video of Pablo Inza and Mariela Sametband dancing to "Via

Con Me" by Paolo Conte.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvMPXyR0qg0

> How would you classify the following things?

> The music? (e.g., "swing")

Not the best music to dance swing to. Sounds a little like 'quickstep'
until it breaks down near the end.

> The dancing they are doing to this music? (e.g., "swing")

I don't know what the hell they are doing. It sure itsn't tango,
although I've seen this kind of aimless dancing at milongas so I'm sure
some people would consider it tango. After all these people are
advertised as tango instructors, so it must be tango to some people.

> The dancers? (e.g., "swing dancers")

> If possible, justify your label.

Are you trolling? Justify your selection of this video. What's your
point?

Mel

Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:42:28 +1000
From: Myk Dowling <politas@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] genre bendre
To: tango-l@mit.edu

Joe Grohens wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvMPXyR0qg0
>
> How would you classify the following things?
>
> - The music? (e.g., "swing")

Yes, I'd say that was fast swing music.

> - The dancing they are doing to this music? (e.g., "swing")

No, they are definitely not dancing swing. I'd call that a fusion of
tango and jazz dancing, leaning heavily on the tango side. Most of what
they are doing is standard tango stuff, with a few jazzy bits thrown in.

> - The dancers?

They are tango performers, as simple as that. Performance dancing rarely
fits precisely into a particular dance genre. Performers fuse elements
from different styles to create a distinctive style of their own in
order to be visually interesting.

--
Myk,
in Canberra

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:34:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jack Dylan <jackdylan007@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] genre bendre
To: Myk Dowling <politas@gmail.com>, tango-l@mit.edu


The first thing they are is professional dancers. My very first Tango
lessons, in the mid-90s, were with Pablo Inza [with his then-wife,
Gladys Fernandez] when they were already travelling the world as
tango teachers. Back then Pablo was super-traditional and
conservative with short slicked-back hair and suit. Almost
unrecognizable from his later nuevo reincarnation.

I guess Pablo just likes to push the boundaries and constantly
experiment with new stuff. But at least he has the training in
traditional tango to back it up. IMHO, this is often lacking in
some of the newer Nuevo dancers.

Jack

> From: Myk Dowling politas@gmail.com

> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvMPXyR0qg0
> >
>
> > - The dancers?
>
> They are tango performers, as simple as that. Performance dancing rarely
> fits precisely into a particular dance genre. Performers fuse elements
> from different styles to create a distinctive style of their own in
> order to be visually interesting.
>