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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:07:32 -0700
From: Lima <amilsolrac@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Hope

I am quite surprised that Manuel Patinno finds Herve' incoherent, as it seems
that he does.

Herve' obviously writes in a hurry, letting a few non-native inaccuracies,
and lots of typos, stand -- I believe because he wants it that way. (But not
always.) Readers, including myself, are also in a hurry, so we may miss the
feeling at first). It usually takes me at least a couple of careful readings
to do his sayings justice.

Let me quote from one of his contributions, under the caption

Question about: "The Intention".

(EN: I took the liberty of some minor editing, to allow his paragraph to be
readily understood by a wider audience. I have not obtained his permission,
but I believe this falls clearly under fair use, and I am in a hurry myself.)

Herve':

>

Let's say that it's a dark room and we touch each other at times but not
always. There is a rainbow of choices on the floor for a very complicated
dance. Let's say that we started together yet apart and ended apart yet
joined.

The light is suddenly switched on and off, and it is a very dark milonga. How
do you find your way back into each other's arms? I know that the floor is a
guide; and you see, but your eyes are not adjusted to the floor fully. <

This is as hard to come by as sensible practical judgement and logic. I very
much fear that we will have none, then. I cannot shake the suspicion that
Herve' has said his goodbyes, and that we will never hear from him again. I
fervently hope that I am wrong. Or perhaps he will change his mind.

Cheers,




Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:39:57 -0400
From: WHITE 95 R <white95r@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Hope

I'm surprised that Carlos Limma finds that I find anyone's writing
incoherent. Firstly, I responded to Sergio's post as I found it amusing. I
responded with nonsense because it was non-sensical. Whether I find anyones'
writing inchoerent or not shall remain within my own mind until I decide to
share it with others (I'll probably never will, but whaever....)

Cheers,

Manuel

----Original Message Follows----



Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:40:17 -0700
From: obscure bardo <obscurebardo@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Fwd: [TANGO-L] Hope

Compared to Brad McFalls 1500+ posts over at the Evolution vs.
Creationism forum everyone here is transparently clear. I don't think
Brad tangoes, but given the example below try to imagine what he would
say about it if he did and then count your blessings!

Brad McFall posting to EvCforum (bear in mind that this is just 1 of
1500 posts);

"I had not expected whatever thruth may be modeled from Maxwell's
vorticies given some actuality fro my use of Pascal's triangle
(Chinese, QM model used in histogeny, Croizat's central, centric, and
internal for any intertia, mass, gravity sorts) that direct
quantitative phenotypic measures would compass the actual opposition
to another direction that quantum mechanical matter could be moving
this orbit but while this may not be communicable at this time, I will
attempt to specifiy what is required as it was so kindly expressed
that I present my views ( in as little print as possible) rather than
trying to turn the governor tighter for any visualization actually of
Maxwell's idle wheels. It is entirely possibe that biology does not
deserve the full extent of its current seperation from chemistry and
physics that is presently being enjoyed.

Right and left keeps Kant's space by three triangles that really could
exist but can not as yet be niavely commtted while I prosecute this
end of neophenogenesis.
Maxwell thought any conditions oppositie in terms of size this could
be expressed as a trait becomes would be dependent on relations to
rays of light along a magnetic line bound kinematics but instead of
composing the variables this generally I will restrict myself to all
external variables on Anuran taxa that are due or will be due to shear
between a longitudinal and transverse of sound propagation in the
media surrounding an environs of frog, toads and treefrog ribbits no
matter the landscape with drawn from Wright's more popular 30's
illustration assigned by CU. Some internal from that may affect
typanum diameter, relative size to whole soma, time of growth realtive
to bone, nervous system innervating structure may be missed in this
preliminary green-print (blueprint).
These trajectories would be found to go through locations in
population genetics whether falling more for instance to the sun or
the earth for the metabolism being reproduced hence the use of group
selection in this implementable metrics. Whether with Faraday or
Pascal this line need not be a geodesic though the chemistry would
still be less organized -genetic if term change in germ are also
specifically; to become called for in the calltype boundary of
"sonogram hedge hoge space" divisions of sound wave propogation
differences in any matter no matter the center of gravity, shear pf
Tree Frog on Toads, Toads on Frogs, effect of tadpole emergence of
future fecundity, transverse matching of topography due to sound
directums, occult limits of material contained ontogenically, for
bounding any such conditioned to a south to north direction for
reference to sister groups."




On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:39:57 -0400, WHITE 95 R <white95r@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm surprised that Carlos Limma finds that I find anyone's writing
> incoherent. Firstly, I responded to Sergio's post as I found it amusing. I
> responded with nonsense because it was non-sensical. Whether I find anyones'
> writing inchoerent or not shall remain within my own mind until I decide to
> share it with others (I'll probably never will, but whaever....)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manuel
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Lima <amilsolrac@YAHOO.COM>
>
> >I am quite surprised that Manuel Patinno finds Herve' incoherent, as it
> >seems
> >that he does.
>




Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:09:40 -0700
From: obscure bardo <obscurebardo@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [TANGO-L] Hope

Eva,

How does that differ from fair use with attribution? I only used an
excerpt of the post and attributed. Replies often duplicate the entire
post. I understand the issue with private emails but I could have
published a link to the entire post as it is publicly archived on the
net. Is there a FAQ or something that discusses these issues?

Thank you,
Jonathan Thornton


----- Original Message -----



Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:02:36 -0400
Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] Fwd: [TANGO-L] Hope
To: obscure bardo <obscurebardo@gmail.com>

BTW- republishing others posts requires their permission.........



obscure bardo wrote:
Compared to Brad McFalls 1500+ posts over at the Evolution vs.
Creationism forum everyone here is transparently clear. I don't think
Brad tangoes, but given the example below try to imagine what he would
say about it if he did and then count your blessings! Brad McFall
posting to EvCforum (bear in mind that this is just 1 of 1500 posts);
"I had not expected whatever thruth may be modeled from Maxwell's
vorticies given some actuality fro my use of Pascal's triangle
(Chinese, QM model used in histogeny, Croizat's central, centric, and
internal for any intertia, mass, gravity sorts) that direct
quantitative phenotypic measures would compass the actual opposition
to another direction that quantum mechanical matter could be moving
this orbit but while this may not be communicable at this time, I will
attempt to specifiy what is required as it was so kindly expressed
that I present my views ( in as little print as possible) rather than
trying to turn the governor tighter for any visualization actually of
Maxwell's idle wheels. It is entirely possibe that biology does not
deserve the full extent of its current seperation from chemistry and
physics that is presently being enjoyed. Right and left keeps Kant's
space by three triangles that really could exist but can not as yet be
niavely commtted while I prosecute this end of neophenogenesis.
Maxwell thought any conditions oppositie in terms of size this could
be expressed as a trait becomes would be dependent on relations to
rays of light along a magnetic line bound kinematics but instead of
composing the variables this generally I will restrict myself to all
external variables on Anuran taxa that are due or will be due to shear
between a longitudinal and transverse of sound propagation in the
media surrounding an environs of frog, toads and treefrog ribbits no
matter the landscape with drawn from Wright's more popular 30's
illustration assigned by CU. Some internal from that may affect
typanum diameter, relative size to whole soma, time of growth realtive
to bone, nervous system innervating structure may be missed in this
preliminary green-print (blueprint). These trajectories would be found
to go through locations in population genetics whether falling more
for instance to the sun or the earth for the metabolism being
reproduced hence the use of group selection in this implementable
metrics. Whether with Faraday or Pascal this line need not be a
geodesic though the chemistry would still be less organized -genetic
if term change in germ are also specifically; to become called for in
the calltype boundary of "sonogram hedge hoge space" divisions of
sound wave propogation differences in any matter no matter the center
of gravity, shear pf Tree Frog on Toads, Toads on Frogs, effect of
tadpole emergence of future fecundity, transverse matching of
topography due to sound directums, occult limits of material contained
ontogenically, for bounding any such conditioned to a south to north
direction for reference to sister groups." On Tue, 28 Sep 2004
19:39:57 -0400, WHITE 95 R <white95r@hotmail.com> wrote:
I'm surprised that Carlos Limma finds that I find anyone's writing
incoherent. Firstly, I responded to Sergio's post as I found it
amusing. I responded with nonsense because it was non-sensical.
Whether I find anyones' writing inchoerent or not shall remain within
my own mind until I decide to share it with others (I'll probably
never will, but whaever....) Cheers, Manuel ----Original Message
Follows---- From: Lima <amilsolrac@YAHOO.COM>
I am quite surprised that Manuel Patinno finds Herve' incoherent, as
it seems that he does.




Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:15:50 -0500
From: Suzanne Miller <s.miller@UTORONTO.CA>
Subject: Re: Orthopedic tango shoes

I don't know of this particular case, but I do know of a shoemaker in Buenos
Aires, actually a family, that makes shoes for many of the best dancers, and
many of the tango shoe stores, and they can make shoes for you to address
specific problems with feet, walk, etc. They actually made a cast of my
friend's feet, (she has very bad bunions), and use the cast to make her
shoes, with special pads, supports, padding and lifts. I have had a number
of pairs made, and they are my most comfortable dance shoes, and they last
very well. They have a wide variety of styles, colours, heels, etc. for
women and men, and work with you to solve your particular problem. They
also have shoes in standard sizes made up, and can make beautiful custom
shoes for 'normal' feet as well. Their prices are excellent, less than you
will pay at most of the other tango shoe places.

The name is PH Tango Shoes. The address is Grito de Ascencio 3602, and the
phone number is 4911 0295. You can get there by bus, but its a bit of walk,
and easy to get lost, so I recommend taking a taxi there (a radio taxi, of
course), and call before you go to make sure they are open. I hope you have
some Spanish, because they don't speak English, though you can probably
explain with diagrams, body language, etc. And bring a pair of shoes that
work for you, to show them what you need.

My partner and I are going to B.A. at the end of the month, and the first
thing I will do is go to PH to order some new shoes, as they take a while
(usually two weeks) to make them. And you may have to go for a fitting
before they are completed.

I hope this is helpful. Good luck, and enjoy B.A.!

Best regards from Suzanne Miller in Toronto, Canada

----- Original Message -----



attitude of the hosts that keep people from flocking
to New Orleans?

------
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:07:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Valorie Hart <mizvtheb@yahoo.com>
Subject: I hope to see you !


hey you beautiful man,

your milonga sounds like more fun than a barrel of
monkeys! seriously, who thinks up all these cute
things you do? i really wish i could be there!

anyhoo (that's not a real word, that's a valorie
word),
the new orleans tangofest has come and gone. it was
great.our best success yet. maybe you'll come next
year. aug 4-5-6. tell loreen to put in for her
vacation time now

hey, i have a question my friend. do you know this
woman annatina who dances with junior? and what do you
think about junior?

i was hot to have him teach at the tangofest,
partnering with guillermina quiroga. months ago, he
said okay. then no he'd be out of the country. then he
turns up in nyc and we can't get a hold of him. we
were ready to cancel paiva jr. because his argentine
partner mariana couldn't get her visa to come to the
usa, and he substituted a woman from las vegas, a
young skinny ballet dancer. okay eye candy, but no
tango dancer if you know what i mean. guiilermina was
in buenos aires, and was willing to come and work with
junior, but we and she couldn't get in touch with
junior. this was three days before the start of our
festival, so we said no, this is crazy and just kept
paiva jr.

then this annatina announces junior at her milonga on
our weekend that we wanted him to work here. we
emailed him several times but he never answered .

finally we told guillie to forget it. and we took
paiva jr. with the flaca from las vegas. it was okay,
but not the best. and i like the best darling.

so now i write annatina, to help me work on junior for
next year. she kind of is pushing herself as his
professional partner....i politely said i need a big
name to match the big name of junior (idon't want
anymore flacca from the usa if you know what i mean).
i asked her for his current email and phone number
about a week ago, and i am still waiting

so give me some information please. is junior worth
it?
and whay is his deal with annatina? do you have his
current email and/or phone number?

it gets harder every year to get a name top couple to
guest teach. they're all pregnant! or already have the
small babies to take care of!

we've been trying to get gustavo and giselle ann for
two years. ditto the balmacedas (julio and corina).
i'd also take osvaldo zotto and lorena, happily.

don't get me wrong. paiva is decent, but he's not his
daddy, in talent or personality. just another pibe
from rosario but born in the usa, and now trying to
pass as 100% "i live in argentina (but really in los
angeles)". i'm kidding. he's okay. but i want the best
darling.

love you and miss you. when you comin' down here?

valorie



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