Date:    Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:07:32 -0700 
From:    Lima <amilsolrac@YAHOO.COM> 
Subject: Hope 
  
I am quite surprised that Manuel Patinno finds Herve' incoherent, as it seems 
that he does. 
  
Herve' obviously writes in a hurry, letting a few non-native inaccuracies, 
and lots of typos, stand -- I believe because he wants it that way. (But not 
always.) Readers, including myself, are also in a hurry, so we may miss the 
feeling at first). It usually takes me at least a couple of careful readings 
to do his sayings justice. 
  
Let me quote from one of his contributions, under the caption 
  
Question about: "The Intention". 
  
(EN: I took the liberty of some minor editing, to allow his paragraph to be 
readily understood by a wider audience. I have not obtained his permission, 
but I believe this falls clearly under fair use, and I am in a hurry myself.) 
  
Herve': 
 > 
 Let's say that it's a dark room and we touch each other at times but not 
always. There is a rainbow of choices on the floor for a very complicated 
dance. Let's say that we started together yet apart and ended apart yet 
joined. 
  
The light is suddenly switched on and off, and it is a very dark milonga. How 
do you find your way back into each other's arms? I know that the floor is a 
guide; and you see, but your eyes are not adjusted to the floor fully. < 
  
This is as hard to come by as sensible practical judgement and logic. I very 
much fear that we will have none, then. I cannot shake the suspicion that 
Herve' has said his goodbyes, and that we will never hear from him again. I 
fervently hope that I am wrong. Or perhaps he will change his mind. 
  
Cheers, 
  
  
 
 
 
Date:    Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:39:57 -0400 
From:    WHITE 95 R <white95r@HOTMAIL.COM> 
Subject: Re: Hope 
  
I'm surprised that Carlos Limma finds that I find anyone's writing 
incoherent. Firstly, I responded to Sergio's post as I found it amusing. I 
responded with nonsense because it was non-sensical. Whether I find anyones' 
writing inchoerent or not shall remain within my own mind until I decide to 
share it with others (I'll probably never will, but whaever....) 
  
Cheers, 
  
Manuel 
  
----Original Message Follows---- 
 
 
 
Date:    Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:40:17 -0700 
From:    obscure bardo <obscurebardo@GMAIL.COM> 
Subject: Fwd: [TANGO-L] Hope 
  
Compared to Brad McFalls 1500+ posts over at the Evolution vs. 
Creationism forum everyone here is transparently clear. I don't think 
Brad tangoes, but given the example below try to imagine what he would 
say about it if he did and then count your blessings! 
  
Brad McFall posting to EvCforum (bear in mind that this is just 1 of 
1500 posts); 
  
"I had not expected whatever thruth may be modeled from Maxwell's 
vorticies given some actuality fro my use of Pascal's triangle 
(Chinese, QM model used in histogeny, Croizat's central, centric, and 
internal for any intertia, mass, gravity sorts) that direct 
quantitative phenotypic measures would compass the actual opposition 
to another direction that quantum mechanical matter could be moving 
this orbit but while this may not be communicable at this time, I will 
attempt to specifiy what is required as it was so kindly expressed 
that I present my views ( in as little print as possible) rather than 
trying to turn the governor tighter for any visualization actually of 
Maxwell's idle wheels. It is entirely possibe that biology does not 
deserve the full extent of its current seperation from chemistry and 
physics that is presently being enjoyed. 
  
Right and left keeps Kant's space by three triangles that really could 
exist but can not as yet be niavely commtted while I prosecute this 
end of neophenogenesis. 
Maxwell thought any conditions oppositie in terms of size this could 
be expressed as a trait becomes would be dependent on relations to 
rays of light along a magnetic line bound kinematics but instead of 
composing the variables this generally I will restrict myself to all 
external variables on Anuran taxa that are due or will be due to shear 
between a longitudinal and transverse of sound propagation in the 
media surrounding an environs of frog, toads and treefrog ribbits no 
matter the landscape with drawn from Wright's more popular 30's 
illustration assigned by CU. Some internal from that may affect 
typanum diameter, relative size to whole soma, time of growth realtive 
to bone, nervous system innervating structure may be missed in this 
preliminary green-print (blueprint). 
These trajectories would be found to go through locations in 
population genetics whether falling more for instance to the sun or 
the earth for the metabolism being reproduced hence the use of group 
selection in this implementable metrics. Whether with Faraday or 
Pascal this line need not be a geodesic though the chemistry would 
still be less organized -genetic if term change in germ are also 
specifically; to become called for in the calltype boundary of 
"sonogram hedge hoge space" divisions of sound wave propogation 
differences in any matter no matter the center of gravity, shear pf 
Tree Frog on Toads, Toads on Frogs, effect of tadpole emergence of 
future fecundity, transverse matching of topography due to sound 
directums, occult limits of material contained ontogenically, for 
bounding any such conditioned to a south to north direction for 
reference to sister groups." 
  
  
  
  
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:39:57 -0400, WHITE 95 R <white95r@hotmail.com> wrote: 
 > I'm surprised that Carlos Limma finds that I find anyone's writing 
> incoherent. Firstly, I responded to Sergio's post as I found it amusing. I 
> responded with nonsense because it was non-sensical. Whether I find anyones' 
> writing inchoerent or not shall remain within my own mind until I decide to 
> share it with others (I'll probably never will, but whaever....) 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Manuel 
> 
> ----Original Message Follows---- 
> From: Lima <amilsolrac@YAHOO.COM> 
> 
> >I am quite surprised that Manuel Patinno finds Herve' incoherent, as it 
> >seems 
> >that he does. 
> 
   
 
 
 
Date:    Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:09:40 -0700 
From:    obscure bardo <obscurebardo@GMAIL.COM> 
Subject: Re: Fwd: [TANGO-L] Hope 
  
Eva, 
  
How does that differ from fair use with attribution? I only used an 
excerpt of the post and attributed. Replies often duplicate the entire 
post. I understand the issue with private emails but I could have 
published a link to the entire post as it is publicly archived on the 
net. Is there a FAQ or something that discusses these issues? 
  
Thank you, 
Jonathan Thornton 
  
  
----- Original Message ----- 
 
 
 
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:02:36 -0400 
Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] Fwd: [TANGO-L] Hope 
To: obscure bardo <obscurebardo@gmail.com> 
  
 BTW- republishing others posts requires their permission......... 
  
  
  
 obscure bardo wrote: 
 Compared to Brad McFalls 1500+ posts over at the Evolution vs. 
Creationism forum everyone here is transparently clear. I don't think 
Brad tangoes, but given the example below try to imagine what he would 
say about it if he did and then count your blessings! Brad McFall 
posting to EvCforum (bear in mind that this is just 1 of 1500 posts); 
"I had not expected whatever thruth may be modeled from Maxwell's 
vorticies given some actuality fro my use of Pascal's triangle 
(Chinese, QM model used in histogeny, Croizat's central, centric, and 
internal for any intertia, mass, gravity sorts) that direct 
quantitative phenotypic measures would compass the actual opposition 
to another direction that quantum mechanical matter could be moving 
this orbit but while this may not be communicable at this time, I will 
attempt to specifiy what is required as it was so kindly expressed 
that I present my views ( in as little print as possible) rather than 
trying to turn the governor tighter for any visualization actually of 
Maxwell's idle wheels. It is entirely possibe that biology does not 
deserve the full extent of its current seperation from chemistry and 
physics that is presently being enjoyed. Right and left keeps Kant's 
space by three triangles that really could exist but can not as yet be 
niavely commtted while I prosecute this end of neophenogenesis. 
Maxwell thought any conditions oppositie in terms of size this could 
be expressed as a trait becomes would be dependent on relations to 
rays of light along a magnetic line bound kinematics but instead of 
composing the variables this generally I will restrict myself to all 
external variables on Anuran taxa that are due or will be due to shear 
between a longitudinal and transverse of sound propagation in the 
media surrounding an environs of frog, toads and treefrog ribbits no 
matter the landscape with drawn from Wright's more popular 30's 
illustration assigned by CU. Some internal from that may affect 
typanum diameter, relative size to whole soma, time of growth realtive 
to bone, nervous system innervating structure may be missed in this 
preliminary green-print (blueprint). These trajectories would be found 
to go through locations in population genetics whether falling more 
for instance to the sun or the earth for the metabolism being 
reproduced hence the use of group selection in this implementable 
metrics. Whether with Faraday or Pascal this line need not be a 
geodesic though the chemistry would still be less organized -genetic 
if term change in germ are also specifically; to become called for in 
the calltype boundary of "sonogram hedge hoge space" divisions of 
sound wave propogation differences in any matter no matter the center 
of gravity, shear pf Tree Frog on Toads, Toads on Frogs, effect of 
tadpole emergence of future fecundity, transverse matching of 
topography due to sound directums, occult limits of material contained 
ontogenically, for bounding any such conditioned to a south to north 
direction for reference to sister groups." On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 
19:39:57 -0400, WHITE 95 R <white95r@hotmail.com> wrote: 
 I'm surprised that Carlos Limma finds that I find anyone's writing 
incoherent. Firstly, I responded to Sergio's post as I found it 
amusing. I responded with nonsense because it was non-sensical. 
Whether I find anyones' writing inchoerent or not shall remain within 
my own mind until I decide to share it with others (I'll probably 
never will, but whaever....) Cheers, Manuel ----Original Message 
Follows---- From: Lima <amilsolrac@YAHOO.COM> 
 I am quite surprised that Manuel Patinno finds Herve' incoherent, as 
it seems that he does. 
  
  
 
 
 
Date:    Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:15:50 -0500 
From:    Suzanne Miller <s.miller@UTORONTO.CA> 
Subject: Re: Orthopedic tango shoes 
  
I don't know of this particular case, but I do know of a shoemaker in Buenos 
Aires, actually a family, that makes shoes for many of the best dancers, and 
many of the tango shoe stores, and they can make shoes for you to address 
specific problems with feet, walk, etc.  They actually made a cast of my 
friend's feet, (she has very bad bunions), and use the cast to make her 
shoes, with special pads, supports, padding and lifts.  I have had a number 
of pairs made, and they are my most comfortable dance shoes, and they last 
very well.  They have a wide variety of styles, colours, heels, etc. for 
women and men, and work with you to solve your particular problem.  They 
also have shoes in standard sizes made up, and can make beautiful custom 
shoes for 'normal' feet as well.  Their prices are excellent, less than you 
will pay at most of the other tango shoe places. 
  
The name is PH Tango Shoes.  The address is Grito de Ascencio 3602, and the 
phone number is 4911 0295.  You can get there by bus, but its a bit of walk, 
and easy to get lost, so I recommend taking a taxi there (a radio taxi, of 
course), and call before you go to make sure they are open.  I hope you have 
some Spanish, because they don't speak English, though you can probably 
explain with diagrams, body language, etc.  And bring a pair of shoes that 
work for you, to show them what you need. 
  
My partner and I are going to B.A. at the end of the month, and the first 
thing I will do is go to PH to order some new shoes, as they take a while 
(usually two weeks) to make them.  And you may have to go for a fitting 
before they are completed. 
  
I hope this is helpful.  Good luck, and enjoy B.A.! 
  
Best regards from Suzanne Miller in Toronto, Canada 
  
----- Original Message ----- 
 
 
 
attitude of the hosts that keep people from flocking 
to New Orleans? 
  
------ 
   Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:07:44 -0700 (PDT) 
   From: Valorie Hart <mizvtheb@yahoo.com> 
Subject: I hope to see you ! 
  
  
hey you beautiful man, 
  
your milonga sounds like more fun than a barrel of 
monkeys! seriously, who thinks up all these cute 
things you do? i really wish i could be there! 
  
anyhoo (that's not a real word, that's a valorie 
word), 
the new orleans tangofest has come and gone. it was 
great.our best success yet. maybe you'll come next 
year. aug 4-5-6. tell loreen to put in for her 
vacation time now 
  
hey, i have a question my friend. do you know this 
woman annatina who dances with junior? and what do you 
think about junior? 
  
i was hot to have him teach at the tangofest, 
partnering with guillermina quiroga. months ago, he 
said okay. then no he'd be out of the country. then he 
turns up in nyc and we can't get a hold of him. we 
were ready to cancel paiva jr. because his argentine 
partner mariana couldn't get her visa to come to the 
usa, and he substituted a woman from las vegas, a 
young skinny ballet dancer. okay eye candy, but no 
tango dancer if you know what i mean. guiilermina was 
in buenos aires, and was willing to come and work with 
junior, but we and she couldn't get in touch with 
junior. this was three days before the start of our 
festival, so we said no, this is crazy and just kept 
paiva jr. 
  
then this annatina announces junior at her milonga on 
our weekend that we wanted him to work here. we 
emailed him several times but he never answered . 
  
finally we told guillie to forget it. and we took 
paiva jr. with the flaca from las vegas. it was okay, 
but not the best. and i like the best darling. 
  
so now i write annatina, to help me work on junior for 
next year. she kind of is pushing herself as his 
professional partner....i politely said i need a big 
name to match the big name of junior (idon't want 
anymore flacca from the usa if you know what i mean). 
i asked her for his current email and phone number 
about a week ago, and i am still waiting 
  
so give me some information please. is junior worth 
it? 
and whay is his deal with annatina?  do you have his 
current email and/or phone number? 
  
it gets harder every year to get a name top couple to 
guest teach. they're all pregnant! or already have the 
small babies to take care of! 
  
we've been trying to get gustavo and giselle ann for 
two years. ditto the balmacedas (julio and corina). 
i'd also take osvaldo zotto and lorena, happily. 
  
don't get me wrong. paiva is decent, but he's not his 
daddy, in talent or personality. just another pibe 
from rosario but born in the usa, and now trying to 
pass as 100% "i live in argentina (but really in los 
angeles)". i'm kidding. he's okay. but i want the best 
darling. 
  
love you and miss you. when you comin' down here? 
  
valorie 
  
  
  
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