Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 13:34:35 +0000
From: Lucia <curvasreales@YAHOO.COM.AR>
Subject: Re: Italian/Spanish heritage in Tango Argentino?
Again, what about the Italian and Spanish (from Spain)
influence?
What kind of names are Arolas, Greco, Troilo,
Candicamo, Discipolo, Castillo, d'Arienzo, Canaro,
Firpo, Pugliese, Piazzola, Fiorentino, etc, etc, etc?
Why not go to https://www.todotango.com and see the
whole glorious roster?
And then:
"In the peak period of the worlds oversee migration,
1821-1932, [..] Argentina ranked second in the number
of immigrants, with a total of 6,405,000."
Between 1857 and 1958 the main source of immigrants to
Argentina were Italy and Spain accounting for 46 and
33 percent, respectively, of the total. The rest of
the immigrants were made up of different
nationalities, including French, German, British, and
Irish.""
Source:
https://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1990/1/90.01.06.x.html
Lucia
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 10:53:56 -0300
From: Alberto Gesualdi <clambat2001@YAHOO.COM.AR>
Subject: Italian/Spanish heritage in Tango Argentino?
You are right Lucia, the influence of italian and spanish people was sensitive for Tango . The extent and influence of other cultures as the afroamerican is still developing.
Alicia Dujovne Ortiz is an argentine writer . She had an uncle , Ortiz Oderigo, not very well known, but with an impressive research on afroamerican cultural influente into rioplatense culture, the area of the River de la Plata basin, that includes as well, Argentina and Uruguay .
Most of this works were not published, and now , a special agreement with a local University of Tres de Febrero, will made possible to publish some books on poetry, music and afroamerican words into rioplatense culture, and the scanning of all the complete works to be kept at Centro Cultural Borges for consultation . This University has created a special career , a Master in Afroamerican studies, as part of the area of the Social Sciences Department.
The content of this subject of cultural diversity , includes general aspects as " Social segregation and exclusion process " , " Introduction to the cultural halfbreeding and migratory inflows and outflows " , and specific aspects on indoamerican , arabic , arabamerican and muslim studies .
The article appeared at La Nacion Newspaper, unfortunately in spanish only, at https://www.lanacion.com.ar/735432 , with the heading " A small black triumph" . Part of the studies of Ortiz Oderigo were a thorough dictionary of afroamerican voices into the everyday rioplatense languange, such as shangs / tango
warm regards
alberto gesualdi
buenos aires
While visiting the apartment of Ortiz Oderigo, full of books and notes ( more than 20 years of a lonely work by this remarkable man ) , the teacher of the subject "Cultural diversity" at the university , Diana Picotti made this sensible comment to Alicia Dujovne Ortiz , while diving into a huge box of documents " tor
Lucia <curvasreales@YAHOO.COM.AR> escribis:
Again, what about the Italian and Spanish (from Spain)
influence?
What kind of names are Arolas, Greco, Troilo,
Candicamo, Discipolo, Castillo, d'Arienzo, Canaro,
Firpo, Pugliese, Piazzola, Fiorentino, etc, etc, etc?
Why not go to https://www.todotango.com and see the
whole glorious roster?
And then:
"In the peak period of the worlds oversee migration,
1821-1932, [..] Argentina ranked second in the number
of immigrants, with a total of 6,405,000."
Between 1857 and 1958 the main source of immigrants to
Argentina were Italy and Spain accounting for 46 and
33 percent, respectively, of the total. The rest of
the immigrants were made up of different
nationalities, including French, German, British, and
Irish.""
Source:
https://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1990/1/90.01.06.x.html
Lucia
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