4661 Killers
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:20:08 -0500 (EST)
From: "Keith Elshaw" <keith@totango.net>
Subject: [Tango-L] Killers
To: tango-l@mit.edu
<60005.69.159.125.183.1164079208.squirrel@webmail4.pair.com>
Seeing one at work today (poor thing might not even know), it dawned that
there were only 3 or 4 people who have brought Tango-L so low as it is.
Well, there are those active but unhappy folks.
And there are the rest.
Wouldn't it be better if "the rest" just conversed and ignored the
miscreants? I hope this is possible.
Tango-L was once (not long ago) a beautiful thing. A thousand people want
it to be so again.
You 5 grumps are oh, so powerful.
We bow to your quivering voices.
You won.
Now, can you just leave us imbeciles to our little chat room that is naive
and hoping to be somehow positive?
Way beneath you, we know.
Beneath your contempt.
So, just lose the address and move on to your own level.
The power and might you wish to show will surely be appreciated elsewhere.
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:40:52 -0500
From: "Caroline Polack" <runcarolinerun@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Killers
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Cc: keith@totango.net
Keith.
Point taken. I am going to return to my dancing and enjoy the rest of my
vacation.
Caroline
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:03:12 +0900
From: "astrid" <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Killers
To: <tango-l@mit.edu>
Cc: keith@totango.net
> Keith.
>
> Point taken. I am going to return to my dancing and enjoy the rest of my
> vacation.
>
> Caroline
I am not sure he meant you. I don't see anything wrong with your postings,
other than shaking their holy cows a bit, which should be anyone's right.
But it really seems true, a lot of old members
seem to be fed up with posting and have left the field for the loud mouths
to fool around in.
Astrid
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:03:14 +0000
From: "Sergio Vandekier" <sergiovandekier990@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] Killers
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Caroline said :
"Point taken. I am going to return to my dancing and
enjoy the rest of my
vacation."
My interpretation of Keith note is that there are very few members in the
list that only open their mouth to show envy, anger and hostility to anyone
that writes any note of interest discouraging any interesting discussion.
Typical examples are recent notes written by Jake Spatz and Caroline Polack,
which were answered with monosyllabic, critical, rather irrelevant,
discouraging comments despite of the fact that they are well written and
covered very relevant subjects.
The most interesting thing is that the ones that show their inferiority
complex by acting that way never make an intelligent contribution to the
list, they just wait in the shadows to jump out and spit their poison
destroying everything that they touch in their miserable lives including
their own.
Even worse, I speak out of my own experience, those elements drag you into
reacting with anger and hostility as well, emotional feelings that, at times
may be positive and that we all exhibit in our lives, but that should
appear in a forum like this one as infrequently as possible..
IMO the ones that remain silent when facing these elements are in some way
their accomplices.
Interesting people and interesting notes attract more people with similar
characteristics; the poor situation in which we find the list these days is
the result of the opposite, the ones that do not have anything to say
attracting their equal.
I would suggest that when you disagree with the concepts written in a note
refrain of directly criticizing the author of the note and proceed to give
your honest point of view in a cordial and kind form.
If you are not interested delete and let other members, that may be
interested, continue with the discussion or even better yet, after a while,
start a discussion of a subject that interests you.
I will do like Caroline go back to dancing and enjoy my vacation.
I am getting ready for my yearly trip to Argentina, I will return next May.
Have a good winter and good luck!.
Sergio
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:40:04 +0000
From: suecockrell@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Killers - Bravo Sergio and Caroline - Encore
To: tango-l@mit.edu
<112120061640.1193.45632BE4000BC4CE000004A9220700095304040A9D050C010C0A9A9C@comcast.net>
I'm new to learning to tango (6 months) and even newer to reading this list -
- learning tango is difficult. And the more I understand where I should put
my attention (in both the learning process and in my dancing), the better.
Thank you so much Caroline for your well-written posts with their keen observations,
directness, honesty, lovingly stated. That's what I learn from. Your posts have been wonderful. Please continue them.
and thank you Sergio for your equally straightforward, daring, engaging, well-spoken post. I'm one of the ones
who stays silent when I could be speaking - thank you for providing me with an example that I might imitate on
other lists in similar recurring situations.
Susan
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:05:55 +0900
From: "astrid" <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Killers
To: "Sergio Vandekier" <sergiovandekier990@hotmail.com>,
<tango-l@mit.edu>
Bravo, Sergio, very well said !
Astrid
> My interpretation of Keith note is that there are very few members in the
> list that only open their mouth to show envy, anger and hostility to
anyone
> that writes any note of interest discouraging any interesting discussion.
>
> Typical examples are recent notes written by Jake Spatz and Caroline
Polack,
> which were answered with monosyllabic, critical, rather irrelevant,
> discouraging comments despite of the fact that they are well written and
> covered very relevant subjects.
>
> The most interesting thing is that the ones that show their inferiority
> complex by acting that way never make an intelligent contribution to the
> list, they just wait in the shadows to jump out and spit their poison
> destroying everything that they touch in their miserable lives including
> their own.
>
