4588 Mundial de Tango 2006-non US participants
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:38:22 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alberto Gesualdi <clambat2001@yahoo.com.ar>
Subject: [Tango-L] Mundial de Tango 2006-non US participants
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Hi June
I have some theories about non US participants this time 2006 , some of them , for what they could be useful or not
1) More than 80% of people registered into the tournament were young people (> 35 ). This was commented by local newspapers , and Clarin local newspaper made a special article about this question of age as compared with previous editions of this tournament.
2) There is nothing like a previous arrangement , you came to this tournament on your own , at your own risk, the organization just take your registration and tell you when you have to contest .There were no organized assistance for no spanish speaking assistant, more than the individual effort of the persons within the organization to give a hand.
The invisible motto of this festival is "You know where we are , help yourself and be smart to arrive" .
If you compared this organization with the organization of Daniel Rofman World Tango Festival ( with Aurora Lubiz and Jorge Firpo as hosts in the last edition), differences arise inmediately.
Of course, for the world tango festival you have to book in advance , pay the fees, etc.etc.. but once you pay, the organization takes care of you.
This world festival still lacks and organization abroad .The embassies made some help with promotion and assistance, but do not put money in the event.
3) There were some dancing classifications abroad, made by a company ,. TCS, which has been appointed as the official company by the local town hall of buenos aires to carry on the activities of organization of selections in those places that ask for that . The organizer of the local tango community has to pay u$s 3.000 to this company for fees, and sending of judges , that has to be lodged, feed, etc.. etc.. For the winners of the local contests abroad, there are no payment of any fee or reimbursement, so , once again, you are travelling on your own , two plane tickes, one week in Buenos Aires ... all in all it must be around u$s 4.000 or u$s. 5.000 expenses, to receive a prize of u$s 1.650 ..... it does not look quite tempting, doesnt it ......
4) You may ask Mr Robert Duvall for extra reasons, he was sitting at the first row of the finals , watching all the couples intensevely. Being Mr Duvall appointed a Fellow of the Academia Nacional del Tango, and Tango Ambassador to USA, well, maybe he knows a bit more of the reasons for this show off for american people in this contest.
Maybe there are too many contests, and it is not so interesting to come , or maybe people in USA have their own contests within the country , that can be more practical to assist .
There is also the fact of security, local rentals of properties for tourists have a severe drop this past months, due to the problems in security at airports. Specially after the aborted plan in London airports, the comment around here in Buenos Aires was about a sudden flow of cancellations of reservations for rental in properties ,. a 12 hours flight from USA to Argentina seems to be a potential target , and although controls are reinforced , security here is not yet a 100% safe at airports.
Well, hope that for 2007 this will change :)
warm regards
alberto
june es <esjune@hotmail.com> escribi?:
I notice the absence of participants from USA. I found this curious. Could
anyone offer any ideas why no one from the US participated?
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:24:12 +0900
From: "astrid" <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Mundial de Tango 2006-non US participants
To: "Alberto Gesualdi" <clambat2001@yahoo.com.ar>, <tango-l@mit.edu>
The reason why so many Japanese are among the winners and the finalists:
Laura and Jose, the owners of the Luna de Tango company in Tokyo
(www.lunadetango.com) are themselves winners of various tango, folklore
etc. contests in BsAs. If you just look at Cristian's resume on the website,
you find a long list of dance prizes he received in Argentina before the age
of twenty. (he placed 4th last year in the mundial)
And they are the teachers who trained the mixed couples who went to the
mundial from Tokyo. The female partners are from Japan, and are dance
teachers here with their own schools.
The other Japanese couples are mostly pro tango teachers too. The Tanadas
met each other in BA, and got married later. Most of these couples go every
year to BA to participate in contests.
Are there any tango dancers like this in the USA who might participate in
the mundial?
Astrid
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:42:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: NANCY <ningle_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Mundial de Tango 2006-non US participants
There might be a few fantasia dancer couples, but my
friends and I are not interested in the least in any
kind of competition. How do you judge what something
'feels' like? And then there is the issue of
following the rules. Most Americans are usually
pretty tough on rules breakers ( think Death Penalty)
and it seems the rules in Argentina are made to be
ignored ( in all areas!). And who is going to pay the
$3000 entry fee? Fo that I can spend three months
dancing and living in BsAs.
Nah......if the Argentine judges know before the
competition who is going to win as they did in the
Miami competition a few years ago, then what is the
point? I am also amazed that anyone would go to stand
in line for tickets at 6:00am when, if you wait until
the winners are chosen, you can see them for the price
of an entrada when they make their victory rounds in
the milongas where they always do a brief exhibition.
Looking forward to watching some amazing dancers in
Denver in a few days......and maybe even dancing!
Nancy
--- astrid <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp> wrote:
> The reason why so many Japanese are among the
> winners and the finalists:
> Laura and Jose, the owners of the Luna de Tango
> company in Tokyo
> (www.lunadetango.com) are themselves winners of
> various tango, folklore
> etc. contests in BsAs. If you just look at
> Cristian's resume on the website,
> you find a long list of dance prizes he received in
> Argentina before the age
> of twenty. (he placed 4th last year in the mundial)
> And they are the teachers who trained the mixed
> couples who went to the
> mundial from Tokyo. The female partners are from
> Japan, and are dance
> teachers here with their own schools.
> The other Japanese couples are mostly pro tango
> teachers too. The Tanadas
> met each other in BA, and got married later. Most of
> these couples go every
> year to BA to participate in contests.
> Are there any tango dancers like this in the USA who
> might participate in
> the mundial?
>
> Astrid
>
>
>
<<Rito es la danza en tu vida
y el tango que tu amas
te quema en su llama>>
de: Bailarina de tango
por: Horacio Sanguinetti
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:53:10 +1000
From: "Tango Tango" <tangotangotango@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Mundial de Tango 2006-non US participants
To: tango-l@mit.edu
<9fb1555a0608282253i6134a22o1bf3ec060f7aa53@mail.gmail.com>
Americans don't need to go to Argentina. We already know how to dance tango,
thank you very much. Besides, as a long-time teacher of authentic Argentine
tango, I've now improved tango so much that it's impossible to demonstrate
my superior skills on a crowded dance floor.
Neil
On 8/29/06, Alberto Gesualdi <clambat2001@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
>
> Hi June
>
> I have some theories about non US participants this time 2006 , some of
> them , for what they could be useful or not
>
> 1) More than 80% of people registered into the tournament were young
> people (> 35 ). This was commented by local newspapers , and Clarin local
> newspaper made a special article about this question of age as compared with
> previous editions of this tournament.
>
> 2) There is nothing like a previous arrangement , you came to this
> tournament on your own , at your own risk, the organization just take your
> registration and tell you when you have to contest .There were no organized
> assistance for no spanish speaking assistant, more than the individual
> effort of the persons within the organization to give a hand.
> The invisible motto of this festival is "You know where we are , help
> yourself and be smart to arrive" .
>
> If you compared this organization with the organization of Daniel Rofman
> World Tango Festival ( with Aurora Lubiz and Jorge Firpo as hosts in the
> last edition), differences arise inmediately.
> Of course, for the world tango festival you have to book in advance ,
> pay the fees, etc.etc.. but once you pay, the organization takes care of
> you.
>
> This world festival still lacks and organization abroad .The embassies
> made some help with promotion and assistance, but do not put money in the
> event.
>
> 3) There were some dancing classifications abroad, made by a company ,.
> TCS, which has been appointed as the official company by the local town
> hall of buenos aires to carry on the activities of organization of
> selections in those places that ask for that . The organizer of the local
> tango community has to pay u$s 3.000 to this company for fees, and sending
> of judges , that has to be lodged, feed, etc.. etc.. For the winners of the
> local contests abroad, there are no payment of any fee or reimbursement, so
> , once again, you are travelling on your own , two plane tickes, one week in
> Buenos Aires ... all in all it must be around u$s 4.000 or u$s. 5.000expenses, to receive a prize of u$s
> 1.650 ..... it does not look quite tempting, doesnt it ......
>
>
> 4) You may ask Mr Robert Duvall for extra reasons, he was sitting at the
> first row of the finals , watching all the couples intensevely. Being Mr
> Duvall appointed a Fellow of the Academia Nacional del Tango, and Tango
> Ambassador to USA, well, maybe he knows a bit more of the reasons for this
> show off for american people in this contest.
>
> Maybe there are too many contests, and it is not so interesting to come
> , or maybe people in USA have their own contests within the country , that
> can be more practical to assist .
>
> There is also the fact of security, local rentals of properties for
> tourists have a severe drop this past months, due to the problems in
> security at airports. Specially after the aborted plan in London airports,
> the comment around here in Buenos Aires was about a sudden flow of
> cancellations of reservations for rental in properties ,. a 12 hours flight
> from USA to Argentina seems to be a potential target , and although controls
> are reinforced , security here is not yet a 100% safe at airports.
>
>
> Well, hope that for 2007 this will change :)
>
>
> warm regards
> alberto
>
> june es <esjune@hotmail.com> escribi?:
> I notice the absence of participants from USA. I found this curious.
> Could
> anyone offer any ideas why no one from the US participated?
>
>
>
>
>
> Pregunt?. Respond?. Descubr?.
> Todo lo que quer?as saber, y lo que ni imaginabas,
> est? en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta).
> Probalo ya!
>
