4855 "Original," "Oldest," etc.
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:32:49 -0400
From: Carol Shepherd <arborlaw@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] "Original," "Oldest," etc.
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Dear list:
An observation on human behavior and mailing lists --
Asking questions such as "Which is the oldest X?" or "Which is the
original Y?" is destined (particularly on this list) to quickly
deteriorate into a nitpick-fest.
Assuming that's not the objective in the first place, here's a
suggestion on how to avoid that. Why not rephrase this inquiry into
"let's compile a list of all the tango festivals we know about, together
with the city, and the year they had their first festival".
Here's a start to that list:
Festival Tangomarkkinat, July 1985 - ?, Sein?joki, Finland
Regards,
Anna Zelenina wrote:
> "longest running events":
>
> The Finnish Festival Tangomarkkinat started in July 1985 in Sein?joki.
> Other sources tell about a first tango festival in M?xico in June of 1980.
> M?xico has a strong tradition of tango. See also. "el tango en M?xico". M?xico DF. 1995
>
> Anna
>
>
>>Randy wrote:
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>>>Lydia is technically correct saying that Tango Fantasy on Miami Beach
>>>is the longest running event.
>>
>
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essential nutrients are largely removed. Only four of those
nutrients are added back in a process called "enrichment."
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and the thief then returned 4 dollars to his victim for cab
fare home, then that person should be considered "enriched"
by 4 dollars, not robbed of 26." -- Elmer M. Cranton, M.D.
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Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:21:11 -0400
From: Carol Shepherd <arborlaw@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] "Original," "Oldest," etc.
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Updated list of tango festivals....(feel free to jump in and correct
incorrect information)
Festival Tangomarkkinat, July 1985 - ?, Sein?joki, Finland
Tango Fantasy (USTC), 1996 - 2007, Miami Beach, Florida, USA
Regards,
Anna Zelenina wrote:
> "longest running events":
>
> The Finnish Festival Tangomarkkinat started in July 1985 in Sein?joki.
> Other sources tell about a first tango festival in M?xico in June of 1980.
> M?xico has a strong tradition of tango. See also. "el tango en M?xico". M?xico DF. 1995
>
> Anna
>
>
>>Randy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Lydia is technically correct saying that Tango Fantasy on Miami Beach
>>>is the longest running event.
>>
>
> SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und
> kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! https://f.web.de/?mc1192
>
>
>
--
Carol Ruth Shepherd
Arborlaw Associates PLLC
business, technology, entertainment and media law
"practical legal solutions for creative people"
Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
734 668 4646 v 734 786 1241 f
https://www.arborlaw.com
"When grain is made into refined white flour, more than 30
essential nutrients are largely removed. Only four of those
nutrients are added back in a process called "enrichment."
Using this same logic, if a person were robbed of 30 dollars
and the thief then returned 4 dollars to his victim for cab
fare home, then that person should be considered "enriched"
by 4 dollars, not robbed of 26." -- Elmer M. Cranton, M.D.
Updates in business, technology, entertainment and media law
a r b o r l a w -- https://www.arborlaw.com/blog/
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:26:16 +0100
From: " Christian L?then " <christian.luethen@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] "Original," "Oldest," etc.
To: tango-L@MIT.EDU
On 24 Mar 2007 at 12:32, Carol Shepherd wrote:
> Assuming that's not the objective in the first place, here's a
> suggestion on how to avoid that. Why not rephrase this inquiry into
> "let's compile a list of all the tango festivals we know about, together
> with the city, and the year they had their first festival".
>
> Here's a start to that list:
>
> Festival Tangomarkkinat, July 1985 - ?, Sein?joki, Finland
True!
Source: https://www.tangomarkkinat.fi/th/etusivu.htm
BTW: in the first year in 1985 Tangomarkkinat had 18.ooo (!) visitors!!!
In the best year Tangomarkkinat drew 130.600 (!!!) visitors (that was 1999).
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What does all these numbers form all the diverse festivals tell us about the quality of the
next festival there: nothing! I.e. "Festival de la ciudad" in Buenos Aires started in 1998
when I loved it. It was great in 2003 but I liked it less in 2004 allthough bigger but also
much more commercialized!
Draw your conclusions, but most of all: go happy dancing! Any ney festival can be much
better than an old one ... and also: any perception is strictly personal!
Christian
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:32:46 +0100
From: " Christian L?then " <christian.luethen@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] "Original," "Oldest," etc.
To: tango-L@MIT.EDU
On 24 Mar 2007 at 13:21, Carol Shepherd wrote:
> Updated list of tango festivals....(feel free to jump in and correct
> incorrect information)
>
> Festival Tangomarkkinat, July 1985 - ?, Sein?joki, Finland
Seinajoki continues ...! ;-)
Other:
"The Tango Marathon" at New Year's ...at "El Corte" in Nijmegen, The
Netherlands: going strong since 1993.
[https://www.elcorte.com/elcorte/yearbyyear.htm]
The 10th festival in Wuppertal, Germany, this september:
https://www.tango-tango.de/ (organized by Carsten Heveling, also
Bandoneon restaurator)
Christian
