5684 Requesting Truth about Impact of Swine Flu on
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 15:49:53 +0000
From: Felix Delgado <felixydelgado@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] Requesting Truth about Impact of Swine Flu on
Buenos Aires milongas
To: <tango-l@mit.edu>
I have a trip planned to go to Buenos Aires (for the first time) at the end of this month. I am still waiting to see what develops, but a declaration by the government of a 'swine flu emergency' is not encouraging. I have family members in Mexico City and their emergency a few months ago essentially shut down the city for several weeks. Residents were captives in their own homes and I can't imagine what tourists did. There's no point in going to Buenos Aires if the milongas are closed and public activities are virtually non-existent. Even if the milongas stay open, this declaration of an emergency is very likely to diminish the number of people going to the milongas. A friend of mine who travels regularly to Buenos Aires for tango just came back and he told me that were 'a lot less people than usual in the milongas, and not many foreigners'. This was before the emergency was declared.
So, I think there needs to be some truth about what is really happening in the milongas in Buenos Aires as a result of this declaration of a 'swine flu emergency'. Given what my friend has said, the reports of 'milongas still open' posted to this list may not give an accurate picture of the situation.
Another thing to take into account is the ability of the Argentine health care system to respond to the epidemic. If a tourist gets sick, he or she will be competing for medical care and medication. Do you really think Argentina has a sufficient supply of Tamiflu?. Swine flu has killed people all over the globe, so this is not something to take lightly.
I don't mean to sound an alarm, but there is a potentially undesirable situation here, at the very least a waste of money because you came to dance and the milongas are either closed or as poorly attended as at home, or worse you get sick and put your life at risk because you can't get the health care you need.
Some honest answers for some honest concerns, please.
Felix
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Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:56:13 -0400
From: Sorin Varzaru <tango@bostonphotographs.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Requesting Truth about Impact of Swine Flu on
Buenos Aires milongas
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I'm in BsAs now. A few milongas and classes have been canceled but not many.
Attendence at milongas is pretty light, but they are not deserted. I'd say
there are half the people there were before the health emergency was
declared, which is quite low as this is the low season to begin with. It's
hard to determine a trend, this seems a knee jerk reaction to the government
"emergemcy" declaration
Sorin
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On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Felix Delgado <felixydelgado@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> I have a trip planned to go to Buenos Aires (for the first time) at the end
> of this month. I am still waiting to see what develops, but a declaration by
> the government of a 'swine flu emergency' is not encouraging. I have family
> members in Mexico City and
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:24:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: NANCY <ningle_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Requesting Truth about Impact of Swine Flu on
Buenos Aires milongas
To: tango-l@mit.edu, Felix Delgado <felixydelgado@hotmail.com>
If you are concerned, then stay where you are. I brought Tamiflu and alcohol gel and masks with me. Yes, the milongas are about 50% right now. But if you wait and inflation continues, there will be even fewer folks in the milongas. This is not the season for tourists ( that's why I come now). If you have a compromised immune system as did almost all the mortalities in the US, then you should not venture out.....anywhere.
WHO has declared this a pandemic, meaning it is world wide and mutating daily. There are no vaccinations for it now. In BsAs it is winter and the usual colds and ordinary flu are upon us. I imagine folks with a little sniffle are scared it might be H1 no they are not going out. That is good for those of us who are still healthy.
I ALWAYS get sick when I come here: drastic change in climate, air pollution, new varities of germs, lots of kissing, holding hands with too many folks, etc etc. I bring an arsenal of comforting things - Nyquil and Puffs with Vicks Vaporub, Tylenol Cold Capsules, and tough it out.
Several folks have given you honest answers ( this is my second post on topic). No one can guarantee you the future or what your dance experience will be like. I have danced five tandas in three days with an 83 year old gentleman whose much younger wife is a medical doctor. I have also watched a decline in numbers of folks in the milongas and the quality of dancing over the 13 years I have been coming here.
I hope this helps you make a very personal decision.
Nancy
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Felix Delgado <felixydelgado@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Felix Delgado <felixydelgado@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Tango-L] Requesting Truth about Impact of Swine Flu on Buenos Aires milongas
> To: tango-l@mit.edu
> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 11:49 AM
>
> I have a trip planned to go to Buenos Aires (for the first
> time) at the end of this month. I am still waiting to see
> what develops, but a declaration by the government of a
> 'swine flu emergency' is not encouraging. I have family
> members in Mexico City and their emergency a few months ago
> essentially shut down the city for several weeks. Residents
> were captives in their own homes and I can't imagine what
> tourists did. There's no point in going to Buenos Aires if
> the milongas are closed and public activities are virtually
> non-existent. Even if the milongas stay open, this
> declaration of an emergency is very likely to diminish the
> number of people going to the milongas. A friend of mine who
> travels regularly to Buenos Aires for tango just came back
> and he told me that were 'a lot less people than usual in
> the milongas, and not many foreigners'. This was before the
> emergency was declared.
>
> So, I think there needs to be some truth about what is
> really happening in the milongas in Buenos Aires as a result
> of this declaration of a 'swine flu emergency'. Given what
> my friend has said, the reports of 'milongas still open'
> posted to this list may not give an accurate picture of the
> situation.
>
> Another thing to take into account is the ability of the
> Argentine health care system to respond to the epidemic. If
> a tourist gets sick, he or she will be competing for medical
> care and medication. Do you really think Argentina has a
> sufficient supply of Tamiflu?. Swine flu has killed people
> all over the globe, so this is not something to take
> lightly.
>
> I don't mean to sound an alarm, but there is a potentially
> undesirable situation here, at the very least a waste of
> money because you came to dance and the milongas are either
> closed or as poorly attended as at home, or worse you get
> sick and put your life at risk because you can't get the
> health care you need.
>
> Some honest answers for some honest concerns, please.
>
> Felix
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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:21:57 -0500
From: Joe Grohens <joe.grohens@gmail.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] Requesting Truth about Impact of Swine Flu on
Buenos Aires milongas
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Cc: Joe Grohens <joe.grohens@gmail.com>
For what it's worth, I just noticed the following announcement about
Practica X closing until August.
> From: Pablo Inza
> July 5 at 5:30am
> debido a la expansi?n en la ciudad de buenos aires del virus H1N1,
> conocido como gripe A, practica x no abrira sus puertas durante el
> mes de julio 2009
>
> reabriremos las puertas el martes 4 de agosto.
> los esperamos
