2820 role analysis
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:50:35 -0500
From: Frank Williams <frankw@MAIL.AHC.UMN.EDU>
Subject: role analysis
Going over a few days worth of posts...
To my thinking these discussions about gender identity in tango are not only
circular and without destination, they sound like they're coming from an
analysts' couch. The very use of the term 'role' suggests that - in some
way, to some extent - some of you are faking it. Worried you can't deliver
something that you think is expected of you? True, practice is a special
case and not what I'm talking about. But if you are dancing 'for real' and
what you do is interpret a 'role', among other things *you are acting*. Do
you think nobody will notice? The better question, I suppose, is whether
your partner(s) will object to the interpersonal presumptions your 'tango
persona' is projecting.
Free advice on enjoying tango: dance WHO you are no matter what.
...it enhances the therapeutic aspects of tango. ;-)
F. - Mpls.
Frank G. Williams, Ph.D.
University of Minnesota
frankw@umn.edu
612-625-6441
Department of Neuroscience
6-145 Jackson Hall
321 Church St. SE.
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Department of Veterinary and Biomedical Sciences
1971 Commonwealth Ave.
St. Paul, Minnesota 55108
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:04:50 +0000
From: herve michel <herve_michel1@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: role analysis
always dance who you are...learning ones rhythm and adjusting it to the
specific milango is all.
herve
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>Going over a few days worth of posts...
>
>To my thinking these discussions about gender identity in tango are not
>only
>circular and without destination, they sound like they're coming from an
>analysts' couch. The very use of the term 'role' suggests that - in some
>way, to some extent - some of you are faking it. Worried you can't deliver
>something that you think is expected of you? True, practice is a special
>case and not what I'm talking about. But if you are dancing 'for real' and
>what you do is interpret a 'role', among other things *you are acting*. Do
>you think nobody will notice? The better question, I suppose, is whether
>your partner(s) will object to the interpersonal presumptions your 'tango
>persona' is projecting.
>
>Free advice on enjoying tango: dance WHO you are no matter what.
>
>...it enhances the therapeutic aspects of tango. ;-)
>
>F. - Mpls.
>
>
>
>Frank G. Williams, Ph.D.
>University of Minnesota
>frankw@umn.edu
>612-625-6441
>
>Department of Neuroscience
>6-145 Jackson Hall
>321 Church St. SE.
>Minneapolis, MN 55455
>
>Department of Veterinary and Biomedical Sciences
>1971 Commonwealth Ave.
>St. Paul, Minnesota 55108
>
>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:25:36 +0000
From: Jay Rabe <jayrabe@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: role analysis
When I started dancing tango, I had bad balance, bad posture, and was timid
and insecure and could not lead. That's who I was. Yet those things make for
a disastrous tango experience, so I practiced and studied. I was coached and
taught to project confidence, to assert my lead with conviction, to stand
tall, stand up to my partner, fearlessly sharing my deeper truth with her.
Was I acting, when a part of me did not believe these things? Was I acting
and projecting a false self if I had to consciously remind myself to stand
tall? My "real" self would have slouched.
For me, this forum is about learning from someone else's point of view.
Occassional grandstanding and passionate narrow-mindedness notwithstanding,
I personally think these discussions do have a destination in broadening
perspectives even if I find nothing worth incorporating into my dance or
teaching.
J in Portland
P.S. Maybe this is a rathole to be taken off-line, Frank, but isn't the
therapeutic process furthered by attempting to change, striving to do
something that you are uncomfortable with, that is different than your
habitual, and in so doing confronting and resolving the blocks and hidden
biases and wounds that impede our full functioning?
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Subject: [TANGO-L] role analysis
