1042  Sexy Women's Clothes

Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:15:31 -0800
From: Wesley Kirk <weskirk2002@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Sexy Women's Clothes

and Wesley wrote:

Tango women are some of the sexiest women on earth with some of the
sexiest
clothes yet most of these women show very little or no extra skin. Why
is that?

Dear Wesley:

Why? I think it's a total package, not just one thing. The follower's
attitude (her responsiveness to her lead blended with her musicality,
playfulness and sensuality); the smoky looks; and beautiful footwork.

This is the beauty of dance (not just tango). The heaviest, the
geekyist,
the scrawniest people are gods and goddesses on the dance floor.

Carlene
Portland, OR

Thanks Carlene,
This is a very good answer to my question. I posed the question I did
to initiate a general discussion of the concept of sexy-ness and why one
person is sexy and another is not. Although I have my own ideas, I wanted
to solicit other peoples thoughts.
There is the general perception that sexy-ness is limited to 'exposed female
flesh' and form-fitting clothes. Most people seem to forget the internal
aspects altogether. Although many of these people are men, many women seem
to think in this fashion also. Perhaps the word 'sex' in 'sexy-ness' is partly
to blame.
There is little in this world nicer to see then an elegantly dressed
tanguera on the dance floor who moves well as she dances. She seems to have
a feeling of self-value. Her sexy-ness and femininity just seems to flow
outward. Some of these women, if one were to carefully analyze her physically,
could be very unattractive. But she most definitely isn't!
Perhaps women view tangueros in a simular light.

Wes

Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:20:52 -0500
From: ceverett@ceverett.com
Subject: [Tango-L] Hidden benefits of the wall (was Re: Women's
technique)
To: "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)" <patangos@yahoo.com>, "Tango-L"

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 01:06:39 -0700 (PDT), "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)"
<patangos@yahoo.com> said:

> I hope we all can see the problem with the wall method, and
> hopefully, the more imaginative people can see that it can
> be solved by having the student do the same exercise
> standing 3 feet away from the wall. Would one of the
> teachers still using it please explain the hidden benefits
> of the wall that outweigh the obvious problems?

Having just had to relearn how to lead front ochos from scratch, and
because I'm taking Florencia's Fundamentals class here in Minneapolis, I
may have had more recent experience with ocho pedagogy than many or even
most people here.

The benefits to the wall method are several:

-- one learns how to do ochos keeping a constant distance from an
external reference point
-- done close enough to the wall, one has to keep the chest facing the
wall and dissociate the hips to get around
-- one can practice rolling the contact patch of the connection from one
side of the chest to the other during the pivot

The key is having the discipline not to use the hands for balance at
all, to lightly brush the wall as you move in each direction.

Before anyone gets the idea that I'm anti-no-wall-ochos, this exercise
didn't become relevant (eg, possible to execute even poorly) to me until
I was able to do 5 or 6 180 degree no-wall ochos in a row. No wall is
essential for learning to chose and execute the precise amount of pivot
you want. There's a practice pattern I learned in my first year, that
has you take one step forward, and then do front ochos of 45, 90, 90,
135, 225, 270, 270 and 135 degrees -- wash, rinse, repeat 15 to 20 times
a day for 6 months and see how good you get.

Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:13:02 -0500
From: ceverett@ceverett.com
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Hidden benefits of the wall (was Re: Women's
technique)
Cc: tl2@chrisjj.com

So eager to score marks you miss the point.

Control your body, or it controls you.

Control your mouth, or it runs off without you.

Christopher


On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:32:00 +0100, "Chris, UK" <tl2@chrisjj.com> said:

> > There's a practice pattern I learned in my first year, that
> > has you take one step forward, and then do front ochos of
> > 45, 90, 90, 135, 225, 270, 270 and 135 degrees
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> Hey Christopher, you left out 115.
> And 247.5
> And 258.75
> And 264.375 ...
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> Can anyone tell me where to find workshops on 267.1875? ;)
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> Chris
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