2975 Tango fusion/electronic & Tango ITOFW
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:08:27 -0300
From: Alberto Gesualdi <clambat2001@YAHOO.COM.AR>
Subject: Tango fusion/electronic & Tango ITOFW
Dear friends from tango list
I have been listening this days to some material of tango fusion/electronic , such as Tanghetto, Supervielle ( the new CD of Bajofondo tango group) and Narcotango from Libedinsky. They are not bad , they just sound different , and there will be needed a waiting period to see wether this experiences are just that , experiences, or if they continue into an alternate style for tango music. There is a feeling of a loss in belonging , certain uneasiness of this music that has part of eerie, part of being from a land that is still out of reach .
I remember an experience that a radio DJ made several years ago in USA . His experience was called " Music on a long thin wire " . He just got a metal wire, and hold it tense with two holders. Then apply magnetos to the sides of the wire, to produce random sounds due to the attraction of the wire to the magnetos and the bending of the wire , that produce a sound , recorded live for the audience. This last a day and a night , and there were calls of people saying they heard chorus of voices like angels, music, patterns ,etc..etc.. This was electronic experiences , and maybe some of this tango electronic/fusion, are also experiences.
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Now, talking about Tango ITOFW , in the old fashion way . I listened to the CD "El arranque" from the group of the same name. I do not know this CD , just by chance last saturday at La Viruta milonga, the DJ Horacio Godoy send a tanda with this music and gave me the information of this material.
This group has a piano/keyboad player, a bass, two violins , two bandoneons,. an electric guitar/other guitars player and a singer . Later CDs have the singer changed, also one of the bandonions ( I think he went with Erica Di Salvo group )
Now, talking about this group El Arranque, do you think that it is possible to play "Canaro en Paris " different that we are accustomed to listen ?? Well ,. they do , they keep the pattern of the music, but here and there , little variations, some chords of a guitar, some violin solos, even some pauses , but all the performance is outstanding . They just know how to play together . So maybe this is other possibility , to annalyze the "old" tangos and to see wether is possible an arrangement different from the usual that we are accustomed to listen and to dance.
There are other tangos to remark in this CD , "Recuerdo " for instance, has the Pugliese flavour , but there is something from them , something that is related to the commitment of the artists as interpeters , many hours of rehearse , until the instruments of this musical group fit together like a glove to a hand.
And there is a sense of belonging here, that is not only local, there is something related to the dance , and the dance floors ,and the milongas and the people at the milongas wherever/whenever/whoever they are .
I know I sound enthusiastic about El Arranque, but they are good and have kept good for this years since they start as the first promotion of Orquesta Escuela de Tango project, so Maestro Emilio Balcarce can be proud of his "tango siblings".
Warm regards
Alberto Gesualdi
Buenos Aires
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:25:49 -0300
From: CARLOS AMOK <desdelejosetejuna@YAHOO.COM.AR>
Subject: Re: Tango fusion/electronic & Tango ITOFW-- PREGUNTA
Alberto,
Como escribis desde Buenos Aires , pregunto: ?existen
casos donde el concepto "fusion" no incluya
elementos musicales o instrumentales que no provengan
de la cultura USA o sus derivados?.-
Estuve tratando de encontrar "fusion" con cultura
boliviana, paragueya, australiana,hindu,colombiana,
tahitiana y otras y no los he hallado (seguramente por
falta de informacion).-
Si Fusion es el concepto amplio de FUSION: podrias
informar de "otras fusiones" que no incluyan elementos
del primer mundo" (....?)
De no encontrarse : ?tendria algun sentido particular
....la "fusion"
Gracias
Carlos
--- Alberto Gesualdi <clambat2001@YAHOO.COM.AR>
escribis:
> Dear friends from tango list
>
> I have been listening this days to some material of
> tango fusion/electronic , such as Tanghetto,
> Supervielle ( the new CD of Bajofondo tango group)
> and Narcotango from Libedinsky. They are not bad ,
> they just sound different , and there will be needed
> a waiting period to see wether this experiences are
> just that , experiences, or if they continue into an
> alternate style for tango music. There is a feeling
> of a loss in belonging , certain uneasiness of this
> music that has part of eerie, part of being from a
> land that is still out of reach .
>
> I remember an experience that a radio DJ made
> several years ago in USA . His experience was called
> " Music on a long thin wire " . He just got a metal
> wire, and hold it tense with two holders. Then apply
> magnetos to the sides of the wire, to produce random
> sounds due to the attraction of the wire to the
> magnetos and the bending of the wire , that produce
> a sound , recorded live for the audience. This last
> a day and a night , and there were calls of people
> saying they heard chorus of voices like angels,
> music, patterns ,etc..etc.. This was electronic
> experiences , and maybe some of this tango
> electronic/fusion, are also experiences.
>
> ******
> Now, talking about Tango ITOFW , in the old fashion
> way . I listened to the CD "El arranque" from the
> group of the same name. I do not know this CD ,
> just by chance last saturday at La Viruta milonga,
> the DJ Horacio Godoy send a tanda with this music
> and gave me the information of this material.
>
> This group has a piano/keyboad player, a bass, two
> violins , two bandoneons,. an electric guitar/other
> guitars player and a singer . Later CDs have the
> singer changed, also one of the bandonions ( I
> think he went with Erica Di Salvo group )
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 06:22:01 -0800
From: Larry Gmucs <gmucs@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Tango fusion/electronic & Tango ITOFW-- PREGUNTA
"Fusion" isn't anything new or mysterious. It's a
natural evolution of musical language. Some of the
attempts work out well and continue to develop, most
are dead ends and stop.
REAL musicians and dancers are inherently creative.
They will notice something out of the ordinary, and
try to incorporate it into their repertoire.
Beethoven's Third Symphony was scandalously dissonant
for its time. Stravinsky's Rite of Spring caused a
near-riot at its premier. Look at Brahms' Hungarian
Rhapsodies, Vaughan-Williams' use of English folk
songs. Remember the musical world before Rap music?
People have made lots of money with Rap, whether we
like it or not.
If nobody tried anything new, we'd all be dancing to
drums around campfires. As soon as you stop learning,
or quit trying new things, you're dead.
Larry in Cleveland
