4238 The tango goddess
Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 10:17:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Trini y Sean \(PATangoS\)" <patangos@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] The tango goddess
Oh, El Bandido,
Ignorant men, in their arrogance decree that there is
only one god. Do you really believe that the others
bow to human will, and cease to exist? The Goddess is
alive and well, and still walks among men, secretly
laughing. You can find her on any dance floor.
Ignorant men, in their arrogance decree that there is
only one tango. Do you really believe that the others
bow to human will, and cease to exist? The Tango is
alive and well, and still walks among men, secretly
laughing. You can find her on any dance floor.
Sean
--- Mallpasso@aol.com wrote:
How about godesses, like the pagans, Lucia? Gotta
have them to balance the ying and the yang... ;-)
El Bandido de Tango
Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 13:37:02 -0500
From: Lois Donnay <donnay@donnay.net>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The tango goddess
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Here's an opinion from a follower (and leader) who has danced with lots of men
and women, in BsAs and elsewhere, and had lots of tango moments:
I like open, and have danced plenty on stage and off, and plenty in BsAs. I
prefer close embrace. That's the only way I have ever gotten a Tango Moment.
If you use your fingers to lead me in anything, you will only reluctantly get
another dance.
No, you do not always need to move to lead front ochos. You need a flexible
follower, as well as a good lead.
I recently was asked by a follower who mostly dances open, stagey style tango
what the heck I meant by a Tango Moment. She'd never had one. I guess
that says
most of it.
Lois Donnay, Tango-Goddess-in-Training
Minneapolis, MN
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 19:00:25 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lucia <curvasreales@yahoo.com.ar>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The tango goddess?
To: Lois Donnay <donnay@donnay.net>, tango-l@mit.edu
No. Goddesses are born!
Lois Donnay <donnay@donnay.net> escribi?:Lois Donnay, Tango-Goddess-in-Training
Minneapolis, MN
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 14:01:09 -0600
From: "David Hodgson" <DHodgson@Tango777.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The tango goddess?
As I understand and have learned:
The goddess has always existed and is ever present in every woman that has
lived, is living here and now, that will ever live in the times that
approach.
It is each woman that discovers her individual expression, for her self in
the vast potential we call the goddess.
Zorrito
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From: tango-l-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of
Lucia
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:00 PM
To: Lois Donnay; tango-l@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The tango goddess?
No. Goddesses are born!
Lois Donnay <donnay@donnay.net> escribi?:Lois Donnay,
Tango-Goddess-in-Training
Minneapolis, MN
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 16:13:20 -0400
From: "Stephane Fymat" <stephane_fymat@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The tango goddess?
To: "'David Hodgson'" <DHodgson@tango777.com>, "'Tango L list'"
And our job in the dance, as men, is to be present and loving to the woman,
to contain her in our embrace while allowing her freedom to play, to cherish
and accept all of her in the moment so that her persona falls away as the
goddess reveals herself and she vanishes into pleasure in our embrace.
Compared to that, technique and style, once mastered by the man, fade away
as superficiality.
Stephane
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Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 4:01 PM
To: Tango L list
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The tango goddess?
As I understand and have learned:
The goddess has always existed and is ever present in every woman that has
lived, is living here and now, that will ever live in the times that
approach.
It is each woman that discovers her individual expression, for her self in
the vast potential we call the goddess.
Zorrito
-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The tango goddess?
No. Goddesses are born!
Lois Donnay <donnay@donnay.net> escribi?:Lois Donnay,
Tango-Goddess-in-Training Minneapolis, MN
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 17:48:03 EDT
From: Mallpasso@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The tango goddess
Hehe... don't get me started on religion, Sean... ;-)
Ever since the misogynists took over control of the Christian church at
around 400AD, it hasn't been on an even keel.
El Bandido de Tango
In a message dated 5/5/2006 12:27:05 Pacific Daylight Time,
patangos@yahoo.com writes:
Oh, El Bandido,
Ignorant men, in their arrogance decree that there is
only one god. Do you really believe that the others
bow to human will, and cease to exist? The Goddess is
alive and well, and still walks among men, secretly
laughing. You can find her on any dance floor.
Ignorant men, in their arrogance decree that there is
only one tango. Do you really believe that the others
bow to human will, and cease to exist? The Tango is
alive and well, and still walks among men, secretly
laughing. You can find her on any dance floor.
Sean
--- Mallpasso@aol.com wrote:
How about godesses, like the pagans, Lucia? Gotta
have them to balance the ying and the yang... ;-)
El Bandido de Tango
Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 03:16:46 +0100 (BST)
From: Andrew RYSER SZYMA?SKI <arrabaltango@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The tango goddess
Dear Bandido,
You better check your facts. At the Council of Ephesus
[431] Mary was officially declared "Mother of God".
The supreme all-generating Goddess of 10,000 years ago
was thus brought back into the mainstream. Before that
we had 400 years of very patriarchal
Judeo-Christianity, subsequently revived in the 16th
Century by Martin Luther, and still alive & kicking in
the Anglo-Saxon world, perhaps not now so much as a
religion but as an ideology. This would explain the
patriarchal distortions of our dance in the US & UK.
Ideologically, the Tango comes from a Marianist [&
matriarchal] background, and is therefore "dedicated
to the Woman" [Cacho Dante]. No Latin woman would call
herself a mere "follower"......
Cheers,
Andy.
--- Mallpasso@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hehe... don't get me started on religion, Sean...
> ;-)
>
> Ever since the misogynists took over control of the
> Christian church at
> around 400AD, it hasn't been on an even keel.
>
> El Bandido de Tango
>
Andrew W. RYSER SZYMA?SKI,
23b All Saints Road,
London, W11 1HE,
07944 128 739.
