3683 Tango Subset Styles in Salon
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:29:35 -0700
From: Derik Rawson <rawsonweb@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Tango Subset Styles in Salon
Dear Smarty Pants, El Bandito:
One very good reason to learn to dance "open embrace"
salon, is for a normal social situation, which happens
all the time. What happens when you ask a woman, who
is a total stranger to dance with you? Do you
immediately go into a close embrace and fondle her?
That behavior is rude and crude. Just ask any woman's
husband, who may watching you dance with her. I have
personally seen many husbands and boy friends get
really pissed of with this kind of behavior, and
rightly so. When dances salon one has to be able to
adapt to any situation on the dance floor and that
means close embrace sometimes, NOT ALL THE TIME. Thank
you.
Derik
d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
--- Mallpasso@aol.com wrote:
> Derik... Derik... Derik:
>
> When you propose to dance with a woman in close
> embrace you've entered into
> an informal contract which she accepted but when you
> change to open embrace she
> has the right to decline and stop dancing. The
> opposite situation would also
> be true. You were wrong to change the embrace
> without asking her first.
>
> As for your other comment "I am talking about women
> who dance close embrace
> who refuse to learn open embrace and cannot dance
> it. This is a very different
> kind of thing. It is about not "growing" in the
> dance." Why should anyone,
> man or woman be obligated to learn other forms of
> tango if they feel
> comfortable and like to dance only one style of
> tango? The last time I checked, we
> don't live in a dictatorship and you weren't elected
> king.
>
> El Bandito de Tango
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/11/2005 11:32:39 Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> rawsonweb@YAHOO.COM writes:
> Dear Melina:
>
> I do agree with you completely about what you are
> saying, but I must say that I do prefer my partners
> to
> be conscious while they are dancing with me.... Just
> kidding...lol.
>
> For me dancing tango is all about communication.
> The
> man and the woman need to be sensitive to each
> other's
> needs, no matter what styles they are dancing. They
> also need to learn enough of the dance styles to be
> capable of good communication with their partners.
>
> I have a friend from Paris, who flew down here to
> Houston to dance and then went on to New York to
> dance
> on her way back home. In New York she encountered a
> great tango dancer who danced her to death. She
> said
> that she hated dancing with him, because he "worked
> her too hard" and made her do all the fancy steps
> which she could do easily, but at the time of the
> dance, he could not tell that she was not in the
> mood
> for dancing her tail off. This was not a dance
> problem for her, it was a communication problem. I
> am
> talking about women who dance close embrace who
> refuse
> to learn open embrace and cannot dance it. This is
> a
> very different kind of thing. It is about not
> "growing" in the dance.
>
> Thank you for your E-mail. I am looking forward to
> meeting you sometime very soon and dancing with you.
> Have a great day.
>
> Derik
> d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:35:35 -0400
From: Richard deSousa <mallpasso@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Tango Subset Styles in Salon
No, I don't "immediately go into a close embrace and fondle her" as you
so crudely put it. I ask her what style she prefers. You were the one
who started the dance in close embrace then switched. That was the
premise of my comment. Obviously you have a reading comprehension
problem.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:29:35 -0700
Subject: [TANGO-L] Tango Subset Styles in Salon
Dear Smarty Pants, El Bandito:
One very good reason to learn to dance "open embrace"
salon, is for a normal social situation, which happens
all the time. What happens when you ask a woman, who
is a total stranger to dance with you? Do you
immediately go into a close embrace and fondle her?
That behavior is rude and crude. Just ask any woman's
husband, who may watching you dance with her. I have
personally seen many husbands and boy friends get
really pissed of with this kind of behavior, and
rightly so. When dances salon one has to be able to
adapt to any situation on the dance floor and that
means close embrace sometimes, NOT ALL THE TIME. Thank
you.
Derik
d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
--- Mallpasso@aol.com wrote:
> Derik... Derik... Derik:
>
> When you propose to dance with a woman in close
> embrace you've entered into
> an informal contract which she accepted but when you
> change to open embrace she
> has the right to decline and stop dancing. The
> opposite situation would also
> be true. You were wrong to change the embrace
> without asking her first.
>
> As for your other comment "I am talking about women
> who dance close embrace
> who refuse to learn open embrace and cannot dance
> it. This is a very different
> kind of thing. It is about not "growing" in the
> dance." Why should anyone,
> man or woman be obligated to learn other forms of
> tango if they feel
> comfortable and like to dance only one style of
> tango? The last time I checked, we
> don't live in a dictatorship and you weren't elected
> king.
>
> El Bandito de Tango
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/11/2005 11:32:39 Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> rawsonweb@YAHOO.COM writes:
> Dear Melina:
>
> I do agree with you completely about what you are
> saying, but I must say that I do prefer my partners
> to
> be conscious while they are dancing with me.... Just
> kidding...lol.
>
> For me dancing tango is all about communication.
> The
> man and the woman need to be sensitive to each
> other's
> needs, no matter what styles they are dancing. They
> also need to learn enough of the dance styles to be
> capable of good communication with their partners.
>
> I have a friend from Paris, who flew down here to
> Houston to dance and then went on to New York to
> dance
> on her way back home. In New York she encountered a
> great tango dancer who danced her to death. She
> said
> that she hated dancing with him, because he "worked
> her too hard" and made her do all the fancy steps
> which she could do easily, but at the time of the
> dance, he could not tell that she was not in the
> mood
> for dancing her tail off. This was not a dance
> problem for her, it was a communication problem. I
> am
> talking about women who dance close embrace who
> refuse
> to learn open embrace and cannot dance it. This is
> a
> very different kind of thing. It is about not
> "growing" in the dance.
>
> Thank you for your E-mail. I am looking forward to
> meeting you sometime very soon and dancing with you.
> Have a great day.
>
> Derik
> d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
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