132 Troilo on El Bandoneon; Di Sarli insrumentals
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 07:07:04 -0500
From: Stephen Brown <Stephen.P.Brown@DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: Re: Troilo on El Bandoneon; Di Sarli insrumentals
Hi Mike / Everyone:
Mike wrote:
>For Di Sarli, I agree that the BMG release on Tango Argentino is a litle
>disappointing because, ... they applied some unpleasant reverb. ...
>[Y]ou will find ... lovely clean transfers ... on the FM Tango disc.
My comparison of the two CDs indicates that the 16 track Solo Tango/FM
Tango release *Instrumental Vol. 1* and the 20 track Tango Argentino
release *Instrumental* (to which reverb has been applied) have 10 tracks in
common. The Tango Argentino release, *Instrumental Vol. 2* does not seem
to have the same reverb problem.
>In general I agree that the Troilo recordings on El Bandoneon are quite
>poor. However this is not true for EBCD1, El Inmortal Pichuco.
I agree that the Troilo CDs *Del Tiempo Guapo* and *Quejas de Bandoneon* on
El Bandoneon have a more muddy sound than is heard on the El Bandoneon CD
*El Inmortal Pichuco*. But, in comparing the instrumental recordings on
*El Inmortal Pichuco* with the same recordings found on the Tango Argentino
release *Instrumental*, I find a somewhat clearer sound on the latter CD.
The difference between the vocal recordings on *El Inmortal Pichuco* and
those found on the Solo Tango release *Troilo/Fiorentino* is much greater.
I find that the same recordings have a much clearer sound on the Solo Tango
release.
To be perfectly honest, the poor sound quality on *Del Tiempo Guapo*,
*Quejas de Bandoneon*, and the vocal recordings on *El Inmortal Pichuco*
affected how much I appreciated Troilo. Listening to those three CDs, I
could not find much to like other than the instrumentals on *El Inmortal
Pichuco* and Malena on Del Tiempo Guapo. I was actually reluctant to
purchase the Troilo/Fiorentino CD, and would not have done so without Dan
Boccia's urging in private exchanges that contributed to the development of
the list of Classics of Tango Dance Music. Listening to the Solo Tango's
*Troilo/Fiorentino*, I found myself thinking what great music, what it must
have been like to hear such a great orchestra live, what a great
pairing--almost as strong as Calo/Beron or Calo/Podesta. I quickly added
two Troilo/Fiorentino tandas to my play list--one that emphasizes the
rhythmic nature of tango, and one that emphasizes the lyrical nature of
tango.
Sometimes Susan and I recall our first experience of dancing to live tango
music and what an impact it had on our appreciation for tango. I wonder if
in the rush to get old recordings out, some appreciation is lost. Truly
great music can be lost--not just because a record company is sitting on
its vaults--but because someone else issues a poorly mastered CD and the
listeners get a poor ghost of an impression....
The development of modern tango dance orchestras is an exciting precisely
because we can get a much better sense of their playing--both live and on
recordings. Despite their superb musicianship (or perhaps because of it),
modern tango dance orchestras do not seem to have yet developed quite as
much gravity in their playing as the orchestras that played during the
golden age. I think that will come with time.
With best regards,
Steve (de Tejas)
Tango Argentino de Tejas
https://www.tejastango.com/
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:20:01 +0100
From: Mike Lavocah <mlavocah@IPWIRELESS.COM>
Subject: Troilo on El Bandoneon
Mark
Thanks very much for your very interesting and informative post.
I'm sure that in the area of artists' fees Blue Moon behave very properly on
copyright and pay all the regular fees to SADAIC. However, this was not what
I was referring to. Once a 78 disc is transferred onto LP/CD then that
transfer also acquires copyright, even if the copyright on the composition
or the performance has expired.
For instance, every time you see a CD with 12 tracks it is a dead giveaway
that this is an LP transfer. It's all a bit embarrassing - I'll be my own
moderator now and not go into the messy details. I'm a big fan of Blue Moon
and I think they've done a great job promoting the revival.
Hats of to DBN, we should all write them fan mail! It's a real shame to hear
about the cancelled releases, particularly the Biagi instrumentals where
Reliquias have shown they have by far the best originals.
Finally, I agree 100% that CD copying / re-compiling of tango music is bad
for everyone. I refuse to do this myself when asked, which is a bit awkward
sometimes, especially when so many people in the tango world don't have much
money.
For my own use (for DJing) I use MD, it's brilliant. No audible loss of
quality on this material, track titles on the disc - and you can get 2 CDs
of mono material on 1 MD.
Best Regards
Mike Lavocah
https://www.milonga.co.uk/
