5564 Wiggle
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:08:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Tango For Her <tangopeer@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] Wiggle
To: MACFroggy@aol.com, tango-l@mit.edu
I was asked, "What's a wiggle?" I have to confess
that see things and feel things in tango, but words
will never stick!
When I play BB King-style, or Clapton-style blues
guitar, it's called vibrato. In tango, can someone
help me, here?
When I "wiggle" my partner, I am pivoting our chests
back and forth quickly. The effect is to create
counter-tortions in her body. The energy transfers
down through her body into a wiggle of her free foot.
Musically, it feels great to come out of this movement
into a back ocho.
Anyway, someone else will have to help me, here, with
terminology.
Then, ask me a month from now, and I won't be able to
tell you. :o\
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:25:46 EST
From: MACFroggy@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Wiggle
To: tango-l@mit.edu
I think what you describe is called by milongueros here in BsAs,
"armonisacion."
Cherie
https://tangocherie.blogspot.com/
In a message dated 2/12/08 3:10:18 PM, tangopeer@yahoo.com writes:
> I was asked, "What's a wiggle?"? I have to confess
> that see things and feel things in tango, but words
> will never stick!?
>
> When I play BB King-style, or Clapton-style blues
> guitar, it's called vibrato.? In tango, can someone
> help me, here??
>
> When I "wiggle" my partner, I am pivoting our chests
> back and forth quickly.? The effect is to create
> counter-tortions in her body.? The energy transfers
> down through her body into a wiggle of her free foot.
>
>
> Musically, it feels great to come out of this movement
> into a back ocho.
>
> Anyway, someone else will have to help me, here, with
> terminology.
>
> Then, ask me a month from now, and I won't be able to
> tell you.? :o\?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ?
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:33:28 -0800
From: Ed Loomis <TangoBear@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Wiggle
To: tango-L@mit.edu
What is described below is also called zarandeo.
Ed
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:25:46 EST, MACFroggy@aol.com wrote:
> I think what you describe is called by milongueros here in BsAs,
>"armonisacion."
>
>Cherie
>https://tangocherie.blogspot.com/
>
>
>In a message dated 2/12/08 3:10:18 PM, tangopeer@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>
>> I was asked, "What's a wiggle?"? I have to confess
>> that see things and feel things in tango, but words
>> will never stick!?
>>
>> When I play BB King-style, or Clapton-style blues
>> guitar, it's called vibrato.? In tango, can someone
>> help me, here??
>>
>> When I "wiggle" my partner, I am pivoting our chests
>> back and forth quickly.? The effect is to create
>> counter-tortions in her body.? The energy transfers
>> down through her body into a wiggle of her free foot.
>>
>>
>> Musically, it feels great to come out of this movement
>> into a back ocho.
>>
>> Anyway, someone else will have to help me, here, with
>> terminology.
>>
>> Then, ask me a month from now, and I won't be able to
>> tell you.? :o\?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ?
>
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:32:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Mario <sopelote@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] Wiggle ala Shastro
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Here is a video of Shastro doing some wiggles with his ocho cortado..a little past half way thru, they will definately begin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Ne2cKDFz4
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:55:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Tango For Her <tangopeer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Wiggle
To: tango-l@mit.edu
--- Mario <sopelote@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here is a video of Shastro doing some wiggles with
> his ocho cortado..a little past half way thru, they
> will definately begin.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Ne2cKDFz4
>
No, that definitely isn't it. I don't have access to
youtube at work and I couldn't find it tonight. The
problem is that it is a feel good move, not a show
tango move. It feels good to the woman to have that
tortion put into her body. These videos are
performances. Again, the move isn't for performance.
It is for soft tango.
The woman stands on one foot, feet collected and I
wiggle her body. If I wiggled, once, bigger, rather
than short, it would be a boleo.
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:22:51 -0700
From: "Oleh Kovalchuke" <tangospring@gmail.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] wiggle (zarandeo, armonisacion)
To: tango-l@mit.edu
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Tango For Her <tangopeer@yahoo.com> wrote:
"it is a feel good move, not a show tango move... The woman stands on
one foot, feet collected and I wiggle her body. If I wiggled, once,
bigger, rather than short, it would be a boleo."
Are you referring to this (at 19 seconds):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr21Qic4UPY ?
--
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:29:39 +1300 (New Zealand Daylight Time)
From: "Melroy" <melroyr@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: [Tango-L] Wiggles
To: <tango-l@mit.edu>
Sorry but I just call it a wiggle, if it's the same thing I do - and it
sounds like it.
I'm sure there is a more correct term, but hey, a wiggle's a wiggle - why
complicate things.
Actually I like wiggles.
Mel.
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:13:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Tango For Her <tangopeer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Wiggles
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Women LOVE wiggles. They say it feels good. But, I
can say that wiggling their hips really accentuates
their shape.
One time, I was dancing with a woman right in front of
her ex-boyfriend, recent ex-boyfriend. I made sure
her back was to him and I led quite a few wiggles as
we passed by his seat. Actually, we wiggled, shared
pivot, wiggled, something else, wiggled. I remember
making quite a display of it!
I mentioned it to her, later. She said, "I know what
you were doing. And, thank you!" :o)
--- Melroy <melroyr@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> Sorry but I just call it a wiggle, if it's the same
> thing I do - and it
> sounds like it.
> I'm sure there is a more correct term, but hey, a
> wiggle's a wiggle - why
> complicate things.
> Actually I like wiggles.
> Mel.
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:24:56 -0700
From: Nina Pesochinsky <nina@earthnet.net>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Wiggles
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Women who are dancers HATE wiggles. It is a meaningless move that
says nothing, misses a bunch of music and does not feel good. If men
want to do it, they better be sure that they know the woman they do
it with, and know for sure that she likes it, or they might run a
risk of woman just standing there waiting for the man to stop wiggling.
Best,
NIna
At 06:13 AM 2/13/2008, Tango For Her wrote:
>Women LOVE wiggles. They say it feels good. But, I
>can say that wiggling their hips really accentuates
>their shape.
>
>One time, I was dancing with a woman right in front of
>her ex-boyfriend, recent ex-boyfriend. I made sure
>her back was to him and I led quite a few wiggles as
>we passed by his seat. Actually, we wiggled, shared
>pivot, wiggled, something else, wiggled. I remember
>making quite a display of it!
>
>I mentioned it to her, later. She said, "I know what
>you were doing. And, thank you!" :o)
>
>
>
>
>--- Melroy <melroyr@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > Sorry but I just call it a wiggle, if it's the same
> > thing I do - and it
> > sounds like it.
> > I'm sure there is a more correct term, but hey, a
> > wiggle's a wiggle - why
> > complicate things.
> > Actually I like wiggles.
> > Mel.
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:16:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Tango For Her <tangopeer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Wiggles
To: tango-l@mit.edu
But, some women who are dancers LOVE wiggles. They
tell me that it is sooooo musical. And, I haven't had
anyone resist it, yet. Hmmmm, food for thought.
--- Nina Pesochinsky <nina@earthnet.net> wrote:
> Women who are dancers HATE wiggles. It is a
> meaningless move that
> says nothing, misses a bunch of music and does not
> feel good. If men
> want to do it, they better be sure that they know
> the woman they do
> it with, and know for sure that she likes it, or
> they might run a
> risk of woman just standing there waiting for the
> man to stop wiggling.
>
> Best,
>
> NIna
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:56:22 -0800 (PST)
From: NANCY <ningle_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Wiggles
To: Nina Pesochinsky <nina@earthnet.net>
Cc: tango-l@mit.edu
--- Nina Pesochinsky <nina@earthnet.net> wrote:
> Women who are dancers HATE wiggles. It is a
> meaningless move that
> says nothing, misses a bunch of music and does not
> feel good.
Nina does not speak for this woman dancer. In fact, I
have been known to initiate a wiggle myself now and
then. And the men seem to enjoy it. It is especially
fun at the end of a milonga.
Nancy
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y el tango que tu amas
te quema en su llama>>
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por: Horacio Sanguinetti
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:05:27 -0700
From: Nina Pesochinsky <nina@earthnet.net>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Wiggles
To: tango-l@mit.edu
So the point is that men need to be sure who they are dancing with
and what that particular woman likes.
To many women, a wiggle, especially at the end of a dance, is a sad,
anticlimactic death of what otherwise could be a memorable dance experience.
Best,
NIna
>Nina does not speak for this woman dancer. In fact, I
>have been known to initiate a wiggle myself now and
>then. And the men seem to enjoy it. It is especially
>fun at the end of a milonga.
>
>Nancy
>
><<Rito es la danza en tu vida
> y el tango que tu amas
> te quema en su llama>>
>de: Bailarina de tango
>por: Horacio Sanguinetti
>
>
>
>Be a better friend, newshound, and
>
