5659 Dark milongas prevent Cabeceo (was Invitation and
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:22:07 -0600
From: Tango Mail <tango@springssauna.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] Dark milongas prevent Cabeceo (was Invitation and
refusal)
To: tango-l@MIT.EDU
Martin N. touched on this topic in his post and I'd like to re-post my
question from
a few months back. This is directed to all and any who host/organize
milongas in the US:
Why do you feel it necessary to keep the room so dark?
I never received any responses to that question so I'm posting it
again. I almost solely ask
for dances via cabeceo; about 95% of the time. The remaining 5% I may
ask someone I
know well, that I am sitting next to, if they want to dance or kind of
nudge them, as even uttering
the words sometimes seems too hard a task for me. Maybe 5% of the time
out of that above
5% I will be asked by the woman. I was asked just at the last milonga I
went to, but I declined
because a live band was playing, and I don't dance to live music (unless
I have a partner lined
up that _Wants_ to dance to live music and I don't want to miss out on
_that_ person).
I've gone as far as deciding not to attend any more milongas or
festivals that have in the past
been kept too dark for cabeceo. One of these is the Baltimore tango
fest. I won't return until
assured that the lighting has been taken care of. The "barn" was so
dark last year that you could
have fornicated in the corner without much notice or attention. I
wasn't even able to make a
cabeceo work from 10-feet away, so I left after one or two tandas of
dancing and lots of sitting.
Has no one else noticed how different peoples behavior and energy levels
are at daytime or
well-lit milongas, be they traditional or alternative music'ed, rather
than dark cave-like environments?
People are a lot more lethargic when the room is too dark.
For myself I've found a good measuring stick the digital camera. If I
can take a photo where you
can tell who's being photographed without the flash, the room is
properly lit. If you have to use a
flash the room is too dark.
Ta.
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:33:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dubravko Kakarigi <dubravko_2005@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Dark milongas prevent Cabeceo (was Invitation
and refusal)
To: tango-l@MIT.EDU
This is probably not a secret to anyone -- there are milongas where lights are turned up at the end of the tanda and turned down after the first 30 seconds (or so) of the next tanda. It should not take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:24:19 -0400
From: "Michael" <tangomaniac@cavtel.net>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Dark milongas prevent Cabeceo
To: "Tango Mail" <tango@springssauna.com>, <tango-l@mit.edu>
Ta:
The issue is more than just lighting. Very few people use cabeceo.Some
people look comatose while they wait for a dance. They don't look around the
room for a partner, they just stare into the dance floor.
It's just like ballroom. Women just wait to be asked. Never mind that it
would help to show some interest that they want to dance. Some look
absolutely amazed when they are asked.
With cabeceo, it's 50-50. It's not entirely the man's responsibility to ask.
The woman has an active role. It seems that women feel their role is to
wait-- and wait-- until a tango knight rescues them.
Michael
I danced Argentine Tango - - with the Argentines
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 3:22 PM
Subject: [Tango-L] Dark milongas prevent Cabeceo (was Invitation and
refusal)
Why do you feel it necessary to keep the room so dark?
I've gone as far as deciding not to attend any more milongas or festivals
that have in the past been kept too dark for cabeceo. One of these is the
Baltimore tango
> fest. I won't return until assured that the lighting has been taken care
> of. The "barn" was so dark last year that you could have fornicated in
> the corner without much notice or attention. I wasn't even able to make
> a cabeceo work from 10-feet away, so I left after one or two tandas of
> dancing and lots of sitting.
>
Ta.
