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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:22:36 -0300
From: SMC Administracion <adm@SMCAR.COM.AR>
Subject: tango & sex

Dear friends from the tango list

There was a farewell message from Larry de Los Angeles with his last
contribution to the list, a message about tango & sex.

I keep thinking abou this subject, and how the issue of "the forbidden"
seems to be an attraction for this dancing .

I will like to translate , part of an interview made in Italy to Ernesto
Carmona , a tango maestro . Ernesto teaches also in Buenos Aires, he is
about to come this days on early july .

" It is necessary to understand the true essence of tango. It is not a
beautiful silk dress that I use when to show off when I go to dance. You can
not make a show off to dance tango. If you are showing off, you showing off
of yourself also, you are showing off to be rich , to be beautiful .. If I
truly danced tango to made it in a way to be good , it has to be , above
all, honest , and it doesn t matter the step or the embellishment, it is
enough with what I have : I offer what I have, I can not offer what I don t
have:
Normally people does not risk to give oneself up , because they fear, now ,
that to dance tango has something of sin , considering the tango is a dance
that progress by means of a deep contact with the bodies ... but it is not
true that it is something that is related with sin !!

In other words, if people could thought only that dance tango is simply
dance feeling the body of the other , offering what you have , then
everything would became much more spontaneous.

I go by the street and see a person ; I like that person , and it is
possible that something important could happen. I can decide to dance tango
just as if I was walking with a person, just as I was having a coffee with
this person.

The intensity between them, the things in common, sometimes, may produce an
outflow of something "different" ; put it is just the pleasure to dance for
the pleasure of the dance itself, whithout any hidden purpose, that permit
myself to dance freely.

It is possible that something more could happen : a man seduce a woman ... a
woman seduce a man , all of this could happen. But do we do this, just this
way , just so simply ??? No, we dont do this simple way , it is necessary
that so many factors and random facts to convey in one, to make a story to
arise.
Or it may just happen that way : an encounter , to go for a walk, a simple
coffee.. but that is all, all ends there!! This fear so big to confront
bodies, makes that in many moments, one rejects to offer, and to be
rejected. There ( in Buenos Aires) we are more accustomed to this situation!
Let īs make a one an only body , and see what happens !! It may not happen
nothing , or it may arise a most beautiful friendship, a very romantic story
, an engagement ...
How should I know ?????
***********************
Warm regards
Alberto Gesualdi
Buenos Aires




Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:29:33 -0700
From: Jai Jeffryes <doktordogg@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: tango & sex

--- SMC Administracion <adm@SMCAR.COM.AR> wrote:

> I will like to translate , part of an interview made
> in Italy to Ernesto
> Carmona , a tango maestro .

> If I
> truly danced tango to made it in a way to be good ,
> it has to be , above
> all, honest...

Being honest is great advice.

As far as I'm concerned, the last word on just about
anything tango comes from Carlos Gavito.

"The relation between you and your partner is not
personal. What is personal between the two of you is
that you are both tring to caress the music with your
feet."

And...

"The embrace looks personal, but what we are actually
embracing is the music."

An attitude of devotion to art is sufficiently rich
and challenging for a lifetime. Add presumption to
that (whether it's presumption towards a partner or
presumption about someone you see with a different
partner) and you can just drive yourself crazy
unnecessarily or even violate and entirely ruin the
dance experience for yourself or even someone else,
too.

Jai






Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:34:00 +0100
From: Chris John Jordan TANGO-L <TANGO-L@CHRISJJ.COM>
Subject: tango & sex

Who said "Tango and sex are the same thing done different ways?"

Or only if you do them right. ;)

Perhaps the link is that Tango lets the man show she can be trusted to be
sensitive to and meeting of her needs, and the woman that she can receive
and in doing so give pleasure.

Then again, I recall a partner getting turned on to the point I started
feeling pleased with myself, when she whispered "This music is so
arousing..." ;)

--
Chris, UK


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