4198 Argentines born for tango
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 17:18:50 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alberto Gesualdi <clambat2001@yahoo.com.ar>
Subject: [Tango-L] Argentines born for tango
To: tango-L@mit.edu
Dear friends from tango list
Once again I have to make some rough numbers for your enlightnement.
1) Buenos Aires is a citiy with 2 million inhabitants and 3 million people that come to work from Great Buenos Aires= 5 million people.
2) Tango social dancing activity is made on local milongas, which are around 100 dancing places, not open every day , not really big places. So the average people dancing tango on a random day would be ... around 5.000 persons , with good luck and favourable trade winds pushing them to the dancing floors :)
3) Add if you want the tango paraphernalia that is offered every day , music shows , stage perfomances ,.dining places , this could add 10.000 that do not dance tango socially,but may like to watch a show.
4) Season with some cruisers that come regularly to the Buenos Aires River port tourist facility , with their cargo of people . Usually they are taken to Puerto Madero area, they watch some show of tango , eat meat , drink red wine , and return to their cabins on board.
Tango music is not played on the streets, there are no parades of bandoneonists playing La cumparsita (which is an uruguayan tango by the way ) , sorry for great expectations about it.
The main event this days is not the Tango Festival, but the Cirque du Soleil, that will start this weekend their shows on a special facility on Costanera Sur, with a sold out of tickets that is impressive.
On Tango Festival, the entrance is free, and every day the office of the festival is crowded with people taking out the free tickets, so it is difficult to find a seat at any venue, if you arrive over the hour, unless you have a close aquaintance inside the place, that could let you in .
It is a matter of size of the shows , although it is presented as a city show, the city of Buenos Aires keeps going the pace of the everyday life , the Tango festival would be noticed only the days when some major streers are closed for dancing , making a nightmare for the traffic to go ahead .
warm regards
alberto gesualdi
buenos aires
> > From: Derik Rawson
> > The Argentines are really great dancers because they
> > start dancing tango when they are 6 years old,
. Basically, there are as many kinds of
> Argentines as you can imagine. Or more. ;)
> --
> Michael 'Bink' Knowles
As a matter of fact, there even are Argentines who have lived in Japan for a
number of years, at some point hit hard times with their business, then took
tango lessons, and later declared themselves to be tango teacher who has
danced tango for 15 years or so. One of them takes credit for having been
born in San Telmo, for having been submerged in tango from before he learned
to walk. The first time I met him in Tokyo, in a tango workshop, he could
not even lead a salida, but he does not remember that now.
Having said that, they are still nice guys, you just can't believe their
inflated resume'.
Astrid
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 10:43:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Derik Rawson <rawsonweb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Argentines born for tango
To: Alberto Gesualdi <clambat2001@yahoo.com.ar>, tango-L@mit.edu
Dear Alberto:
Give me a break...lol.
How many US Americans on this list have been dancing
Argentine tango since they were children, say 6 to 12
years old? That is the question.
Could we please have some answers from some of you
teachers out there on this list? Also, it would be
nice if you teachers at least spoke Argentine Spanish
as well. Thank you.
Derik
d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
--- Alberto Gesualdi <clambat2001@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
> Dear friends from tango list
>
> Once again I have to make some rough numbers for
> your enlightnement.
>
> 1) Buenos Aires is a citiy with 2 million
> inhabitants and 3 million people that come to work
> from Great Buenos Aires= 5 million people.
>
> 2) Tango social dancing activity is made on local
> milongas, which are around 100 dancing places, not
> open every day , not really big places. So the
> average people dancing tango on a random day would
> be ... around 5.000 persons , with good luck and
> favourable trade winds pushing them to the dancing
> floors :)
>
> 3) Add if you want the tango paraphernalia that is
> offered every day , music shows , stage perfomances
> ,.dining places , this could add 10.000 that do not
> dance tango socially,but may like to watch a show.
>
> 4) Season with some cruisers that come regularly
> to the Buenos Aires River port tourist facility ,
> with their cargo of people . Usually they are taken
> to Puerto Madero area, they watch some show of tango
> , eat meat , drink red wine , and return to their
> cabins on board.
>
> Tango music is not played on the streets, there
> are no parades of bandoneonists playing La
> cumparsita (which is an uruguayan tango by the way )
> , sorry for great expectations about it.
>
> The main event this days is not the Tango
> Festival, but the Cirque du Soleil, that will start
> this weekend their shows on a special facility on
> Costanera Sur, with a sold out of tickets that is
> impressive.
>
> On Tango Festival, the entrance is free, and every
> day the office of the festival is crowded with
> people taking out the free tickets, so it is
> difficult to find a seat at any venue, if you arrive
> over the hour, unless you have a close aquaintance
> inside the place, that could let you in .
>
> It is a matter of size of the shows , although it
> is presented as a city show, the city of Buenos
> Aires keeps going the pace of the everyday life ,
> the Tango festival would be noticed only the days
> when some major streers are closed for dancing ,
> making a nightmare for the traffic to go ahead .
>
> warm regards
> alberto gesualdi
> buenos aires
>
>
>
> > > From: Derik Rawson
> > > The Argentines are really great dancers because
> they
> > > start dancing tango when they are 6 years old,
>
> . Basically, there are as many kinds of
> > Argentines as you can imagine. Or more. ;)
> > --
> > Michael 'Bink' Knowles
>
> As a matter of fact, there even are Argentines who
> have lived in Japan for a
> number of years, at some point hit hard times with
> their business, then took
> tango lessons, and later declared themselves to be
> tango teacher who has
> danced tango for 15 years or so. One of them takes
> credit for having been
> born in San Telmo, for having been submerged in
> tango from before he learned
> to walk. The first time I met him in Tokyo, in a
> tango workshop, he could
> not even lead a salida, but he does not remember
> that now.
> Having said that, they are still nice guys, you just
> can't believe their
> inflated resume'.
>
> Astrid
>
>
>
>
> Correo Yahoo!
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>
>
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 15:17:19 -0600
From: "David Hodgson" <DHodgson@Tango777.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Argentines born for tango
(Note to self: Check email address before sending email)
Hey Alberto, thank you for the posting. I think it would be very cool to
have a group of bandoneonists going around to different restaurants and
parading down the street playing La Cumparsita. A couple of years ago there
was a gorilla art group of accordionists that would show up out of the blue
in costume at restaurants and art galleries. Play a version of "Lady of
Spain" and then move on to the next place.
Derik; you simply assume too much. But thanks for tossing the question out
to the list.
I wish this were someone being annoying for the sheer pleasure of being
annoying and pushing buttons to bring up questions an issues, but alas I am
not seeing this.
I for one have been practicing attentive walking, footwork and movement
since I was a very young child. Was I aware of the existence of Argentine
Tango at that time, No. In hindsight it looks a lot like tango movement. I
have been Dancing Tango as a discipline for around 12 years and have found
all the different things I have experienced in my life, support my
expression of tango.
So, have I been formally studying Tango directly all my life, no.
With the elements that allow my expression of tango to happen, have I been
practicing this all of my life, Yes.
As a child, did anyone tell me to do this, nope. I just did.
So a second question I believe may get brushed aside. What do you bring to
the dance. I am also not asking what you have done with in your community or
accomplished which may or may not be beneficial to your community, I have
not danced there so can not create an opinion.
I also ask you not say "variety is the spice of life" while true, you never
know when you have just added ground habanera thinking it is Cumin.
To the rest of the group, I just need to say something.
TkX10
David~
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:43 AM
To: Alberto Gesualdi; tango-L@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Argentines born for tango
Dear Alberto:
Give me a break...lol.
How many US Americans on this list have been dancing
Argentine tango since they were children, say 6 to 12
years old? That is the question.
Could we please have some answers from some of you
teachers out there on this list? Also, it would be
nice if you teachers at least spoke Argentine Spanish
as well. Thank you.
Derik
d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
--- Alberto Gesualdi <clambat2001@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
> Dear friends from tango list
>
> Once again I have to make some rough numbers for
> your enlightnement.
>
> 1) Buenos Aires is a citiy with 2 million
> inhabitants and 3 million people that come to work
> from Great Buenos Aires= 5 million people.
>
> 2) Tango social dancing activity is made on local
> milongas, which are around 100 dancing places, not
> open every day , not really big places. So the
> average people dancing tango on a random day would
> be ... around 5.000 persons , with good luck and
> favourable trade winds pushing them to the dancing
> floors :)
>
> 3) Add if you want the tango paraphernalia that is
> offered every day , music shows , stage perfomances
> ,.dining places , this could add 10.000 that do not
> dance tango socially,but may like to watch a show.
>
> 4) Season with some cruisers that come regularly
> to the Buenos Aires River port tourist facility ,
> with their cargo of people . Usually they are taken
> to Puerto Madero area, they watch some show of tango
> , eat meat , drink red wine , and return to their
> cabins on board.
>
> Tango music is not played on the streets, there
> are no parades of bandoneonists playing La
> cumparsita (which is an uruguayan tango by the way )
> , sorry for great expectations about it.
>
> The main event this days is not the Tango
> Festival, but the Cirque du Soleil, that will start
> this weekend their shows on a special facility on
> Costanera Sur, with a sold out of tickets that is
> impressive.
>
> On Tango Festival, the entrance is free, and every
> day the office of the festival is crowded with
> people taking out the free tickets, so it is
> difficult to find a seat at any venue, if you arrive
> over the hour, unless you have a close aquaintance
> inside the place, that could let you in .
>
> It is a matter of size of the shows , although it
> is presented as a city show, the city of Buenos
> Aires keeps going the pace of the everyday life ,
> the Tango festival would be noticed only the days
> when some major streers are closed for dancing ,
> making a nightmare for the traffic to go ahead .
>
> warm regards
> alberto gesualdi
> buenos aires
>
>
>
> > > From: Derik Rawson
> > > The Argentines are really great dancers because
> they
> > > start dancing tango when they are 6 years old,
>
> . Basically, there are as many kinds of
> > Argentines as you can imagine. Or more. ;)
> > --
> > Michael 'Bink' Knowles
>
> As a matter of fact, there even are Argentines who
> have lived in Japan for a
> number of years, at some point hit hard times with
> their business, then took
> tango lessons, and later declared themselves to be
> tango teacher who has
> danced tango for 15 years or so. One of them takes
> credit for having been
> born in San Telmo, for having been submerged in
> tango from before he learned
> to walk. The first time I met him in Tokyo, in a
> tango workshop, he could
> not even lead a salida, but he does not remember
> that now.
> Having said that, they are still nice guys, you just
> can't believe their
> inflated resume'.
>
> Astrid
>
>
>
>
> Correo Yahoo!
> Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y
> antispam ?gratis!
>
>
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 17:33:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: God <bailartangos@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Argentines born for tango
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Thanks for the info, Alberto.
Its always a pleasure to read your postings...
G
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