3540 Confiteria Ideal in Buenos Aires
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:43:40 -0300
From: Janis Kenyon <jantango@FEEDBACK.NET.AR>
Subject: Confiteria Ideal in Buenos Aires
There was a newspaper report about an accident which happened in Confiteria
Ideal a few months ago. Alicia "La Turca", who organizes the Monday
afternoon milonga, told me what actually happened. One of the bronze
chandeliers had been lowered for repainting, new bulbs and new steel wiring.
It was secured with temporary wiring and raised until the work could be
completed. A man entered the area which had been roped off and
unfortunately the temporary wiring gave way. The accident did not occur
while people were dancing.
I attended Alicia's milonga on Monday. The renovation work is taking place
in Confiteria Ideal. The huge dome has been repaired and repainted. I could
hardly take my eyes off it because it's magnificent. The walls have been
painted, and the room is looking much better than I've seen it in years.
There were more than 300 dancers there on Monday, including a few
milongueros with whom I had the pleasure of dancing. There aren't as many
tourists here as during the summer months, but I recognized Tom Stermitz on
the floor. The music was excellent, and I stayed five hours to enjoy it.
Many milongas have raised the general entrada to eight or ten pesos. I
wrote about the boycott initiated against Alicia's milonga when she charged
tourists ten pesos. A letter from Alicia is published in the June issue of
B.A. Tango in English on page 26 which says in part: I'd like to make a
remark to tourists. At the Monday matinees, tourists who live in the city
and who patronize the milonga pay the regular admission.
Alicia and her daughter Laura are looking forward to celebrating the tenth
anniversary of the milonga.
Janis Kenyon
Buenos Aires
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:36:38 +0200
From: Christian Lüthen <christian.luethen@GMX.NET>
Subject: Re: Confiteria Ideal in Buenos Aires
Janis kindly gave us an update about tourist prices / tourist rip-off at
Confideria Ideal on mondays:
On 23 Jun 2005 at 16:43, Janis Kenyon wrote:
>
> Many milongas have raised the general entrada to eight or ten pesos. I
> wrote about the boycott initiated against Alicia's milonga when she charged
> tourists ten pesos. A letter from Alicia is published in the June issue of
> B.A. Tango in English on page 26 which says in part: I'd like to make a
> remark to tourists. At the Monday matinees, tourists who live in the city
> and who patronize the milonga pay the regular admission.
Read the last sentence again:
> At the Monday matinees, tourists who live in the city
> and who patronize the milonga pay the regular admission.
Fantastic euphemism!
This means other tourists still pay extra!!!! :-(((((
Buhhhh!!!!
I am planning to go back to Bs.As. as soon as possible. I definitely would
have passed along and danced ... and payed the regular entrance fee.
Probably quite a couple of times ... resulting in a combined total entrance
fee higher than the regular one.
That way I definitely will NOT visit this milonga at all ... resulting in a total
entrance fee equaling NIL.
Alicias own fault!
> Alicia and her daughter Laura are looking forward to celebrating the tenth
> anniversary of the milonga.
First decade ... but because of her inacceptable tourist rip-off I am not sure
wether she'd make it up to the second decace! Pity her!!!
Christian
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:36:38 +0200
From: <christian.luethen@GMX.NET>
Subject: Re: Confiteria Ideal in Buenos Aires
Janis kindly gave us an update about tourist prices / tourist rip-off at
Confideria Ideal on mondays:
On 23 Jun 2005 at 16:43, Janis Kenyon wrote:
> Many milongas have raised the general entrada to eight or ten pesos. I
> wrote about the boycott initiated against Alicia's milonga when she
charged
> tourists ten pesos. A letter from Alicia is published in the June issue
of
> B.A. Tango in English on page 26 which says in part: I'd like to make a
> remark to tourists. At the Monday matinees, tourists who live in the city
> and who patronize the milonga pay the regular admission.
I did not support the boycott of Alicia's milonga. Someone who attends her
milonga once or twice a year will be charged ten pesos. I feel that's fair.
People need to realize that milongas won't continue unless they are
supported by tourism. Local dancers cannot afford to go everyday to
milongas where current entradas are 7 to 10 pesos. It just isn't
economically possible for most who live on a small fixed income. The
general entrada on Saturday night at El Beso and El Cachafaz is ten pesos.
El Beso may charge more due to the fact they are limited to 150; El Cachafaz
had to raise the price last week since they still have the rent and
employees to pay with fewer dancers during the winter months. The general
entrada at Ideal on Thursday night is ten pesos. You'll be charged that
entrada in most milongas if you aren't recognized as a regular.
That's the way it is. There are fewer milongas than last year--I believe
there are only 68 places registered with the government as official
milongas.
Lo de Celia is awaiting its final inspection this week. I don't care how
much Celia charges, I'll pay whatever to dance at the milongueros' favorite
place with the music of Daniel Borelli. We've missed our second home for
six months!
Janis Kenyon
School of the Milongueros
Buenos Aires
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:36:38 +0200
From: <christian.luethen@GMX.NET>
Subject: Re: Confiteria Ideal in Buenos Aires
Janis kindly gave us an update about tourist prices / tourist rip-off at
Confideria Ideal on mondays:
On 23 Jun 2005 at 16:43, Janis Kenyon wrote:
> Many milongas have raised the general entrada to eight or ten pesos. I
> wrote about the boycott initiated against Alicia's milonga when she
charged
> tourists ten pesos. A letter from Alicia is published in the June issue
of
> B.A. Tango in English on page 26 which says in part: I'd like to make a
> remark to tourists. At the Monday matinees, tourists who live in the city
> and who patronize the milonga pay the regular admission.
I did not support the boycott of Alicia's milonga. Someone who attends her
milonga once or twice a year will be charged ten pesos. I feel that's fair.
People need to realize that milongas won't continue unless they are
supported by tourism. Local dancers cannot afford to go everyday to
milongas where current entradas are 7 to 10 pesos. It just isn't
economically possible for most who live on a small fixed income. The
general entrada on Saturday night at El Beso and El Cachafaz is ten pesos.
El Beso may charge more due to the fact they are limited to 150; El Cachafaz
had to raise the price last week since they still have the rent and
employees to pay with fewer dancers during the winter months. The general
entrada at Ideal on Thursday night is ten pesos. You'll be charged that
entrada in most milongas if you aren't recognized as a regular.
That's the way it is. There are fewer milongas than last year--I believe
there are only 68 places registered with the government as official
milongas.
Lo de Celia is awaiting its final inspection this week. I don't care how
much Celia charges, I'll pay whatever to dance at the milongueros' favorite
place with the music of Daniel Borelli. We've missed our second home for
six months!
Janis Kenyon
School of the Milongueros
Buenos Aires
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Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:36:38 +0200
From: <christian.luethen@GMX.NET>
Subject: Re: Confiteria Ideal in Buenos Aires
Janis kindly gave us an update about tourist prices / tourist rip-off at
Confideria Ideal on mondays:
On 23 Jun 2005 at 16:43, Janis Kenyon wrote:
> Many milongas have raised the general entrada to eight or ten pesos.
> I wrote about the boycott initiated against Alicia's milonga when she
charged
> tourists ten pesos. A letter from Alicia is published in the June
> issue
of
> B.A. Tango in English on page 26 which says in part: I'd like to make
> a remark to tourists. At the Monday matinees, tourists who live in
> the city and who patronize the milonga pay the regular admission.
I did not support the boycott of Alicia's milonga. Someone who attends her
milonga once or twice a year will be charged ten pesos. I feel that's fair.
People need to realize that milongas won't continue unless they are
supported by tourism. Local dancers cannot afford to go everyday to
milongas where current entradas are 7 to 10 pesos. It just isn't
economically possible for most who live on a small fixed income. The
general entrada on Saturday night at El Beso and El Cachafaz is ten pesos.
El Beso may charge more due to the fact they are limited to 150; El Cachafaz
had to raise the price last week since they still have the rent and
employees to pay with fewer dancers during the winter months. The general
entrada at Ideal on Thursday night is ten pesos. You'll be charged that
entrada in most milongas if you aren't recognized as a regular.
That's the way it is. There are fewer milongas than last year--I believe
there are only 68 places registered with the government as official
milongas.
Lo de Celia is awaiting its final inspection this week. I don't care how
much Celia charges, I'll pay whatever to dance at the milongueros' favorite
place with the music of Daniel Borelli. We've missed our second home for
six months!
Janis Kenyon
School of the Milongueros
Buenos Aires
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Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:36:38 +0200
From: <christian.luethen@GMX.NET>
Subject: Re: Confiteria Ideal in Buenos Aires
Janis kindly gave us an update about tourist prices / tourist rip-off at
Confideria Ideal on mondays:
On 23 Jun 2005 at 16:43, Janis Kenyon wrote:
> Many milongas have raised the general entrada to eight or ten pesos.
> I wrote about the boycott initiated against Alicia's milonga when she
charged
> tourists ten pesos. A letter from Alicia is published in the June
> issue
of
> B.A. Tango in English on page 26 which says in part: I'd like to make
> a remark to tourists. At the Monday matinees, tourists who live in
> the city and who patronize the milonga pay the regular admission.
I did not support the boycott of Alicia's milonga. Someone who attends her
milonga once or twice a year will be charged ten pesos. I feel that's fair.
People need to realize that milongas won't continue unless they are
supported by tourism. Local dancers cannot afford to go everyday to
milongas where current entradas are 7 to 10 pesos. It just isn't
economically possible for most who live on a small fixed income. The
general entrada on Saturday night at El Beso and El Cachafaz is ten pesos.
El Beso may charge more due to the fact they are limited to 150; El Cachafaz
had to raise the price last week since they still have the rent and
employees to pay with fewer dancers during the winter months. The general
entrada at Ideal on Thursday night is ten pesos. You'll be charged that
entrada in most milongas if you aren't recognized as a regular.
That's the way it is. There are fewer milongas than last year--I believe
there are only 68 places registered with the government as official
milongas.
Lo de Celia is awaiting its final inspection this week. I don't care how
much Celia charges, I'll pay whatever to dance at the milongueros' favorite
place with the music of Daniel Borelli. We've missed our second home for
six months!
Janis Kenyon
School of the Milongueros
Buenos Aires
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