2643 Florid prose
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:15:20 EDT
From: Crrtango@AOL.COM
Subject: Florid prose
Leonardo Kunkello wrote:
"I approach the dance floor as a large blank canvas. The orchestra's rich
tango sounds are absorbed, flowing from my concentrating ears into a
brain filled with anticipation. The multiple rich layers of the music
are interpreted to then flow to the shoulders to speak instantaneously
to my connected partner through our strong yet sensitively responsive
embrace. Down from our shoulders the language is filtered by our hearts
giving communication to each pelvis, which transmits energy and power to
our lower bodies. The feelings emanate out our feet with the emotions of
numerous brushes, from quick explosions to stokes of quiet meaningful
movements and anticipating pauses. The soles of our feet are now moving
and caressing the floor as if painting this once empty canvas into a
beautiful landscape. A colorful painting which is visible solely to our
entwined souls. This expression of our hearts, that sought a resolution
to come together, now beat as one. The tango is concluded with a
signature that punctuates our now satisfied souls with a glowing pride
in a beautifully completed canvas. A painting of our emotions that is
never ever to be exactly duplicated again."
Are you serious?
Cheers
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:46:42 -0700
From: Michael <michael@TANGOBELLINGHAM.COM>
Subject: Re: Florid prose
Crrtango@AOL.COM wrote:
> Leonardo Kunkello wrote:
>
> "I approach the dance floor as a large blank canvas. The orchestra's rich
> tango sounds are absorbed, flowing from my concentrating ears into a
> brain filled with anticipation. The multiple rich layers of the music
> are interpreted to then flow to the shoulders to speak instantaneously
> to my connected partner through our strong yet sensitively responsive
> embrace. Down from our shoulders the language is filtered by our hearts
> giving communication to each pelvis, which transmits energy and power to
> our lower bodies. The feelings emanate out our feet with the emotions of
> numerous brushes, from quick explosions to stokes of quiet meaningful
> movements and anticipating pauses. The soles of our feet are now moving
> and caressing the floor as if painting this once empty canvas into a
> beautiful landscape. A colorful painting which is visible solely to our
> entwined souls. This expression of our hearts, that sought a resolution
> to come together, now beat as one. The tango is concluded with a
> signature that punctuates our now satisfied souls with a glowing pride
> in a beautifully completed canvas. A painting of our emotions that is
> never ever to be exactly duplicated again."
>
> Are you serious?
>
> Cheers
>
>
Yep, my sentiments exactly, although my first inclination was to yell,
"Three pounds of flax!"
Although that's a rather esoteric reference....
--
Michael
Tango Bellingham
www.tangobellingham.com
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:43:29 -0700
From: Daniel Lapadula <clubstyletango@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Florid prose
Leonardo:your way to interpretate what a tango could
be from your heart is a beatiful gift for all the list
members....
Thanks.
Daniel Lapadula
--- Michael <michael@TANGOBELLINGHAM.COM> wrote:
> Crrtango@AOL.COM wrote:
> > Leonardo Kunkello wrote:
> >
> > "I approach the dance floor as a large blank
> canvas. The orchestra's rich
> > tango sounds are absorbed, flowing from my
> concentrating ears into a
> > brain filled with anticipation. The multiple rich
> layers of the music
> > are interpreted to then flow to the shoulders to
> speak instantaneously
> > to my connected partner through our strong yet
> sensitively responsive
> > embrace. Down from our shoulders the language is
> filtered by our hearts
> > giving communication to each pelvis, which
> transmits energy and power to
> > our lower bodies. The feelings emanate out our
> feet with the emotions of
> > numerous brushes, from quick explosions to stokes
> of quiet meaningful
> > movements and anticipating pauses. The soles of
> our feet are now moving
> > and caressing the floor as if painting this once
> empty canvas into a
> > beautiful landscape. A colorful painting which is
> visible solely to our
> > entwined souls. This expression of our hearts,
> that sought a resolution
> > to come together, now beat as one. The tango is
> concluded with a
> > signature that punctuates our now satisfied souls
> with a glowing pride
> > in a beautifully completed canvas. A painting of
> our emotions that is
> > never ever to be exactly duplicated again."
> >
> > Are you serious?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
>
> > Send "Where can I Tango in <city>?" requests to
> Tango-A rather than to
> > Tango-L, since you can indicate the region. To
> subscribe to Tango-A,
> > send "subscribe Tango-A Firstname Lastname" to
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
> >
>
> >
>
> Yep, my sentiments exactly, although my first
> inclination was to yell,
>
> "Three pounds of flax!"
>
> Although that's a rather esoteric reference....
>
> --
> Michael
> Tango Bellingham
> www.tangobellingham.com
>
>
> Send "Where can I Tango in <city>?" requests to
> Tango-A rather than to
> Tango-L, since you can indicate the region. To
> subscribe to Tango-A,
> send "subscribe Tango-A Firstname Lastname" to
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
>
>
=====
Daniel Lapadula
ClubStyleTango@yahoo.com
54114-773-9383
Buenos Aires-Argentina
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:03:09 -0600
From: Bernhard Michaelis <bernhard@NATIVECHILD.COM>
Subject: florid prose
Tango from the heart? Come on....
I call it Kitsch.
Definition of Kitsch:
Derived from the German verkitschen etwas, kitsch means to 'knock
something off'. Today it is synonymous with objects of bad taste that
are so bad they're good in an ironic way. In the fifties and sixties
kitsch was -and still is - highly collectable. Kitsch can be anything
from flying ducks to Tretchikoff paintings and Elvis toilet roll
holders.
Leonardo:your way to interpretate what a tango could
be from your heart is a beatiful gift for all the list
members....
Thanks.
Daniel Lapadula
--- Michael <michael@TANGOBELLINGHAM.COM> wrote:
> Crrtango@AOL.COM wrote:
> > Leonardo Kunkello wrote:
> >
> > "I approach the dance floor as a large blank
> canvas. The orchestra's rich
> > tango sounds are absorbed, flowing from my
> concentrating ears into a
> > brain filled with anticipation. The multiple rich
> layers of the music
> > are interpreted to then flow to the shoulders to
> speak instantaneously
> > to my connected partner through our strong yet
> sensitively responsive
> > embrace. Down from our shoulders the language is
> filtered by our hearts
> > giving communication to each pelvis, which
> transmits energy and power to
> > our lower bodies. The feelings emanate out our
> feet with the emotions of
> > numerous brushes, from quick explosions to stokes
> of quiet meaningful
> > movements and anticipating pauses. The soles of
> our feet are now moving
> > and caressing the floor as if painting this once
> empty canvas into a
> > beautiful landscape. A colorful painting which is
> visible solely to our
> > entwined souls. This expression of our hearts,
> that sought a resolution
> > to come together, now beat as one. The tango is
> concluded with a
> > signature that punctuates our now satisfied souls
> with a glowing pride
> > in a beautifully completed canvas. A painting of
> our emotions that is
> > never ever to be exactly duplicated again."
> >
> > Are you serious?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
>
> > Send "Where can I Tango in <city>?" requests to
> Tango-A rather than to
> > Tango-L, since you can indicate the region. To
> subscribe to Tango-A,
> > send "subscribe Tango-A Firstname Lastname" to
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
> >
>
> >
>
> Yep, my sentiments exactly, although my first
> inclination was to yell,
>
> "Three pounds of flax!"
>
> Although that's a rather esoteric reference....
>
> --
> Michael
> Tango Bellingham
> www.tangobellingham.com
>
>
> Send "Where can I Tango in <city>?" requests to
> Tango-A rather than to
> Tango-L, since you can indicate the region. To
> subscribe to Tango-A,
> send "subscribe Tango-A Firstname Lastname" to
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
>
>
=====
Daniel Lapadula
ClubStyleTango@yahoo.com
54114-773-9383
Buenos Aires-Argentina
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:17:02 -0700
From: Michael <michael@TANGOBELLINGHAM.COM>
Subject: Re: florid prose
Bernhard Michaelis wrote:
> Tango from the heart? Come on....
> I call it Kitsch.
>
Ah! Much better description, Bernhard - although I still think one word
too many.
"Three pounds of flax!"
https://www.ibiblio.org/zen/gateless-gate/18.html
or perhaps Gutei's Finger
https://www.ibiblio.org/zen/gateless-gate/3.html
Too many words all around....
--
Michael
Tango Bellingham
www.tangobellingham.com
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:51:12 +0000
From: Sergio Vandekier <sergiovandekier990@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Florid prose
More Kitsch . I wrote this piece of kitsch some time ago.
It says the same as Michael's with different words .
Dance is one of the most primitive forms of art. It expresses our life
experiences and our personality in movements of our body.
Tango Argentino facilitates our emotional, social and physical integration.
It increases self-esteem, improves relationships, broadens the possibilities
of movement, favors introspection and it is effective in managing stress and
depression.
Its music is a mixture of melancholy, emotional altitude, transcendental
expression, anxiety, anger and frustration, it wraps you as it floats in
the air with a beauty that moves the heart and shakes the soul.
Its lyrics are poems, the brush of a painter leaving on the canvas images of
the city, the neighborhood, the street where you grew up, played, loved, and
suffered. Mother, friends, lovers, cafes, cabarets, horse races, triumphs,
failures, frustrations, peace and turmoil are the matter from which they are
shaped.
Tango does not require any preconception, you have a different experience
with each partner, you learn more about yourself through the transient
association with the other dancers. It refers to two human beings, wrapped
by a music full of passion. Two entities that are introspected but fused in
one. One could say that the dancing couple is a creature with two heads,
four
arms, four legs and only one heart.
The invitation to dance is an invisible connection , a silent dialog of eyes
and gestures.
I meet my partner on the dancing floor, stand in front of her. I offer my
left hand and receive her right with a smile;
place my right hand around her back, I bend slightly my knees and take a
deep breath as I stretch my chest upwards.
I cradle her in my arms for a moment as I feel the changes of weight of her
body...I concentrate in the beat, let the music invade my body and my heart
and start dancing my emotions, my joys, my sadness, my hopes and my
frustrations. I feel free, I feel my life, I float in the air and glide
away. When the music stops I hold her in my arms for a few extra moments,
I contemplate her dreamy eyes full with gratitude, I smile and then
walk her back to her sit.
Sent: 13 August 2004 22:03
To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: [TANGO-L] florid prose
Tango from the heart? Come on....
I call it Kitsch.
Definition of Kitsch:
Derived from the German verkitschen etwas, kitsch means to 'knock
something off'. Today it is synonymous with objects of bad taste that
are so bad they're good in an ironic way. In the fifties and sixties
kitsch was -and still is - highly collectable. Kitsch can be anything
from flying ducks to Tretchikoff paintings and Elvis toilet roll
holders.
Leonardo:your way to interpretate what a tango could
be from your heart is a beatiful gift for all the list
members....
Thanks.
Daniel Lapadula
--- Michael <michael@TANGOBELLINGHAM.COM> wrote:
> Crrtango@AOL.COM wrote:
> > Leonardo Kunkello wrote:
> >
> > "I approach the dance floor as a large blank
> canvas. The orchestra's rich
> > tango sounds are absorbed, flowing from my
> concentrating ears into a
> > brain filled with anticipation. The multiple rich
> layers of the music
> > are interpreted to then flow to the shoulders to
> speak instantaneously
> > to my connected partner through our strong yet
> sensitively responsive
> > embrace. Down from our shoulders the language is
> filtered by our hearts
> > giving communication to each pelvis, which
> transmits energy and power to
> > our lower bodies. The feelings emanate out our
> feet with the emotions of
> > numerous brushes, from quick explosions to stokes
> of quiet meaningful
> > movements and anticipating pauses. The soles of
> our feet are now moving
> > and caressing the floor as if painting this once
> empty canvas into a
> > beautiful landscape. A colorful painting which is
> visible solely to our
> > entwined souls. This expression of our hearts,
> that sought a resolution
> > to come together, now beat as one. The tango is
> concluded with a
> > signature that punctuates our now satisfied souls
> with a glowing pride
> > in a beautifully completed canvas. A painting of
> our emotions that is
> > never ever to be exactly duplicated again."
> >
> > Are you serious?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
>
> > Send "Where can I Tango in <city>?" requests to
> Tango-A rather than to
> > Tango-L, since you can indicate the region. To
> subscribe to Tango-A,
> > send "subscribe Tango-A Firstname Lastname" to
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
> >
>
> >
>
> Yep, my sentiments exactly, although my first
> inclination was to yell,
>
> "Three pounds of flax!"
>
> Although that's a rather esoteric reference....
>
> --
> Michael
> Tango Bellingham
> www.tangobellingham.com
>
>
> Send "Where can I Tango in <city>?" requests to
> Tango-A rather than to
> Tango-L, since you can indicate the region. To
> subscribe to Tango-A,
> send "subscribe Tango-A Firstname Lastname" to
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
>
>
=====
Daniel Lapadula
ClubStyleTango@yahoo.com
54114-773-9383
Buenos Aires-Argentina
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 17:33:20 -0600
From: Bernhard Michaelis <bernhard@NATIVECHILD.COM>
Subject: Florid prose
no, Sergio, yours is not kitsch, in my esteem.. What leonard wrote,
seems to be coming right out of a cheap fiction dime novel. Reminds me
of a little old lady, crying over a soapy hollywood movie because she
thinks it's real. Just too melodramatic and pretentious for my taste. Of
course, tango has its share of kitsch recordings and trappings - yet its
essence is related to real emotions.
This thread could end up in another never ending discussion about what
is art, and what's not. some people really love to put a black velvetine
elvis on their wall. For me it's kitsch, for them it's art. In that
sense, for me what Leonard wrote is kitsch, for someone else it's real
feelings.
Bernhard
> More Kitsch . I wrote this piece of kitsch some time ago.
>
> It says the same as Michael's with different words .
>
> Dance is one of the most primitive forms of art. It expresses our life
> experiences and our personality in movements of our body.
>
> Tango Argentino facilitates our emotional, social and physical
integration.
> It increases self-esteem, improves relationships, broadens the
possibilities
> of movement, favors introspection and it is effective in managing
stress and
> depression.
>
> Its music is a mixture of melancholy, emotional altitude,
transcendental
> expression, anxiety, anger and frustration, it wraps you as it floats
in
> the air with a beauty that moves the heart and shakes the soul.
>
> Its lyrics are poems, the brush of a painter leaving on the canvas
images of
> the city, the neighborhood, the street where you grew up, played,
loved, and
> suffered. Mother, friends, lovers, cafes, cabarets, horse races,
triumphs,
> failures, frustrations, peace and turmoil are the matter from which
they are
> shaped.
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 16:58:05 -0700
From: Michael <michael@TANGOBELLINGHAM.COM>
Subject: Re: Florid prose
Bernhard Michaelis wrote:
> no, Sergio, yours is not kitsch, in my esteem..
Agreed!
"No, I can't explain the dance to you; If I could say it--I wouldn't
have to dance it!" --Isadora Duncan
--
Michael
Tango Bellingham
www.tangobellingham.com
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 01:47:48 +0100
From: Daniel Iannarelli <dmi@OSTEOPATH.THERAPIST.ORG.UK>
Subject: Re: Florid prose
A load of bull if you ask me...
Dani
-----Original Message-----
Sent: 13 August 2004 21:43
To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] Florid prose
Leonardo:your way to interpretate what a tango could
be from your heart is a beatiful gift for all the list
members....
Thanks.
Daniel Lapadula
--- Michael <michael@TANGOBELLINGHAM.COM> wrote:
> Crrtango@AOL.COM wrote:
> > Leonardo Kunkello wrote:
> >
> > "I approach the dance floor as a large blank
> canvas. The orchestra's rich
> > tango sounds are absorbed, flowing from my
> concentrating ears into a
> > brain filled with anticipation. The multiple rich
> layers of the music
> > are interpreted to then flow to the shoulders to
> speak instantaneously
> > to my connected partner through our strong yet
> sensitively responsive
> > embrace. Down from our shoulders the language is
> filtered by our hearts
> > giving communication to each pelvis, which
> transmits energy and power to
> > our lower bodies. The feelings emanate out our
> feet with the emotions of
> > numerous brushes, from quick explosions to stokes
> of quiet meaningful
> > movements and anticipating pauses. The soles of
> our feet are now moving
> > and caressing the floor as if painting this once
> empty canvas into a
> > beautiful landscape. A colorful painting which is
> visible solely to our
> > entwined souls. This expression of our hearts,
> that sought a resolution
> > to come together, now beat as one. The tango is
> concluded with a
> > signature that punctuates our now satisfied souls
> with a glowing pride
> > in a beautifully completed canvas. A painting of
> our emotions that is
> > never ever to be exactly duplicated again."
> >
> > Are you serious?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
>
> > Send "Where can I Tango in <city>?" requests to
> Tango-A rather than to
> > Tango-L, since you can indicate the region. To
> subscribe to Tango-A,
> > send "subscribe Tango-A Firstname Lastname" to
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
> >
>
> >
>
> Yep, my sentiments exactly, although my first
> inclination was to yell,
>
> "Three pounds of flax!"
>
> Although that's a rather esoteric reference....
>
> --
> Michael
> Tango Bellingham
> www.tangobellingham.com
>
>
> Send "Where can I Tango in <city>?" requests to
> Tango-A rather than to
> Tango-L, since you can indicate the region. To
> subscribe to Tango-A,
> send "subscribe Tango-A Firstname Lastname" to
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
>
>
=====
Daniel Lapadula
ClubStyleTango@yahoo.com
54114-773-9383
Buenos Aires-Argentina
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 01:09:03 -0400
From: bailadora2000@EXCITE.COM
Subject: Re: Florid prose
It's really disgusting to me to see the negative responses given to Leonardo's recent posting of his personal interpretation and sentiments. Daniel Lapadula was the only one willing to give a positive feedback. Leonardo, I think what you wrote was very nice, and a relief to all the recent attacks made on Petra and her innocent posting. The negativity that prevails on this list is quite disgusting at times, and makes me wonder how many of those on here really do know what tango is about.
Intimacy. I find it's something truly lacking in this world these days, especially in our relationships with others. I love finding that in a tango dance.... it's rare though, meaning it's rare to find it in the men I dance with...just like in many relationships. Leonardo shared some of his intimacy with us. What a treasure to find.
Nicole
Miami
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 00:43:37 +0900
From: astrid <astrid@RUBY.PLALA.OR.JP>
Subject: Re: Florid prose
> It's really disgusting to me to see the negative responses given to
Leonardo's recent posting of his personal interpretation and sentiments.
In Japan, they have a saying:
"The deepest feelings cannot be expressed in words."
This long wordy description about "my concentrated ears, a brain filled with
anticipation, my connected partner etc,.etc. etc." may be simply a sign that
too much of the dance experience is processed inside the head in an attempt
to supplement what is not really happening in the soul.
Astrid
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 12:11:31 -0400
From: Michael B Ditkoff <tangomaniac@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Florid prose
I couldn't understand why so many people were complaining about
Leonardo's recent post. Then it dawned on me. This is not different from
people complaining about different styles of tango. Leonardo wrote in
what I call the "close embrace" style where connection is more important
that figures. People who attacked, not just disagreed, wrote from what I
call the open embrace style. They don't like close embrace. Well, I don't
like alternative tango music and wouldn't go to a milonga that had that
type of music. It would be foolish on my part to complain because some
people love that type of music.
The bottom line is you can disagree without being nasty. One thing Tango
L has taught me: Opinions are just that-- Opinions. Opinions are not
right or wrong. Facts are right or wrong. We need to be sure if we're
talking about opinions or facts.
Leonardo, I've saved your message because of your beautiful description.
Michael Ditkoff
Hoping all my tangos are just like Leonardo described
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 00:43:37 +0900 astrid <astrid@RUBY.PLALA.OR.JP>
writes:
> > It's really disgusting to me to see the negative responses given to
> Leonardo's recent posting of his personal interpretation and
> sentiments.
>
Astrid
>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:14:14 -0700
From: Rick FromPortland <pruneshrub04@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Florid prose
As I recall, Leonardo's posting was a challenge to other listeros. I'm going to see what I can come up with, very privately, as I'm mudding & taping sheetrock joints this afternoon...
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 18:48:57 +0000
From: Oleh Kovalchuke <oleh_k@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Florid prose
Nicole wrote from Miami:
"It's really disgusting to me to see the negative responses given to
Leonardo's recent posting of his personal interpretation and sentiments."
As Tuco, the Ugly would say poetically: "There are two kinds of men, my
friend: poets and those who write florid prose". His intentions might have
been good but Leonardo wrote some pretty turgid florid prose (also known as
kitsch).
Cheers, Oleh K., not a poet.
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:30:55 -0500
From: Leonard Kunkel <image10@SWBELL.NET>
Subject: Re: Florid prose
Hola List,
I have been away for a few days and have not had the opportunity until
now to see the responses to my prose. An attempt by me to put into words
expressing my feelings as I dance tango. It is true that feelings can
never be accurately expressed in words but that does not mean we should
not try.
Feelings and Thinking are two poles on the same plane or line
(Briggs-Myers personality test). Everyone is on a different point along
this line. I tend to test out in the center and toward feelings. In my
youth I tested back more toward thinking but have learned as I mature to
trust my feelings more.
The four categories for Briggs-Myers
Extroversion - Introversion
Sensing - Intuition
Thinking - Feeling
Judging - Perceiving
I am finding some of the comments on my prose amusing especially the
critiques. When I submitted the prose I was not expecting any. After
all, my feelings are my own, owned only by me. I ask myself how can
anyone critique how I feel. But I see now that the critique comes from
the words I used and what they may mean to individuals. All prose is
subject to such critique and each individual may find or disallow how
prose will touch them.
Teachers: Every Individual learns differently. Visually (by example,
watching or by written word), audibly and then by practice. In the same
way, individuals will test on different points in the different
Briggs-Myers categories. If you observe you can begin to know your
students individually. Everyone is different including teachers. That is
why some teachers will appeal to us over other teachers. Different
teachers reach us on different levels. I try to incorporate a number of
styles and techniques in my classes to reach as many students as
possible. In my classes I am not looking for clones of me but
individuals. I encourage, Make the tango your own.
Beginning men have to be in the thinking mode most of the time. Men
remember how when starting out how your head hurt, at least mine did.
Men have to comprehend their dance, their partners dance and to be one
step ahead so that the lead is discern able at the appropriate time. And
as a man progresses in learning he reacts more and more quickly. And
then at some point Feelers may begin to use their own mode.
Another critique was that as I used the word, head or brain suggested
too much thinking. Well thinking is both on a conscious and subconscious
level (which can then be automatic or can be your feelings). I had
intended the meaning to be on a subconscious level.
Most arguments are from people that are coming from different make ups.
(90% of our arguments in life are over semantics - the meaning that we
attach to words) When disagreeing with someone the first step to
understanding is to have each person come back with their own
definitions. Most times Individuals are much more in agreement than they
realize. They can be only in disagreement over the choice of words and
their meanings to words..
I try to remember that each persons opinion or feelings are valid. Each
has merit. Because we all are individuals. God made us that way. Life
would be very boring otherwise. And until each individual realizes this
the arguments will go on.
My prose and subsequent challenge was to encourage other feelers to
express their feelings. But when feelers see others get flamed they will
most likely not risk it. My feelings, no one can take away from me.
They are mine, I own them for they make me who I am. And I like myself
as I am.
Tango has different styles because the tango community has individuals
who approach the dance from their own different personalities and
learning experiences. I suggest, first get to know yourself before you
venture to analyze someone else. Everyone looks through their own
filter. Some need to clean their filters and take another look before
opening their mouths.
Blessings to ALL
Leonardo Kunkello
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:38:56 +1000
From: Gary Barnes <garybarn@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Florid prose
Thankyou Leonard, for having the courage to attempt to express your feelings
about tango in words; and then the strength to endure the flames of others
with equanimity.
Some choose to judge your words as literature, and find them wanting. As we
have seen, one person's 'florid prose' is another's poetry; perhaps just as
one person's 'passionate and close connection' may be another's 'limited
steps'; and one person's 'fully expressing the music' may be another's
'overly flashy moves'.
For myself, while I would not use the same words (of course!), I am pleased
to see some attempt at expressing the other sides of tango in this generally
very analytical forum.
"The cynic is his own worst enemy. It requires far less skill to run a
wrecking company than it does to be an architect."
it seems that around 17/08/04 3:30 AM, Leonard Kunkel at image10@SWBELL.NET
wrote (among other things):
> It is true that feelings can
> never be accurately expressed in words but that does not mean we should
> not try.
<big snip>
> My prose and subsequent challenge was to encourage other feelers to
> express their feelings. But when feelers see others get flamed they will
> most likely not risk it.
Please, risk it!
--
Gary Barnes
Canberra, Australia
"more tango, more often"
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:56:25 -0700
From: Jean-Marie Herve Michel <jhmichel@STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Florid prose
subtelties are always best. it's always good to 'surrender' to master
teacher regardless of their age.
herve
Quoting Gary Barnes <garybarn@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>:
> Thankyou Leonard, for having the courage to attempt to express your
> feelings
> about tango in words; and then the strength to endure the flames of
> others
> with equanimity.
>
> Some choose to judge your words as literature, and find them wanting. As
> we
> have seen, one person's 'florid prose' is another's poetry; perhaps just
> as
> one person's 'passionate and close connection' may be another's 'limited
> steps'; and one person's 'fully expressing the music' may be another's
> 'overly flashy moves'.
>
> For myself, while I would not use the same words (of course!), I am
> pleased
> to see some attempt at expressing the other sides of tango in this
> generally
> very analytical forum.
>
> "The cynic is his own worst enemy. It requires far less skill to run a
> wrecking company than it does to be an architect."
>
> it seems that around 17/08/04 3:30 AM, Leonard Kunkel at
> image10@SWBELL.NET
> wrote (among other things):
>
> > It is true that feelings can
> > never be accurately expressed in words but that does not mean we
> should
> > not try.
>
> <big snip>
>
> > My prose and subsequent challenge was to encourage other feelers to
> > express their feelings. But when feelers see others get flamed they
> will
> > most likely not risk it.
>
> Please, risk it!
>
>
> --
>
> Gary Barnes
> Canberra, Australia
>
> "more tango, more often"
>
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
>
