3584  If picture is worth a thousand of words...

Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:37:16 +0000
From: Oleh Kovalchuke <oleh_k@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: If picture is worth a thousand of words...

...than a movie can make you a billionaire?

Here is movie clip from milonga at El Beso:

https://www.tangospring.com/tangomovies/ElBesoMilonga.mov

This is how most people dance at most downtown milongas in Buenos Aires. I
call this style milonguero. Someone might call it grilled cheese on a stick.
It does not matter really. This is also prevalent style at major milongas in
Villa Urquiza (Sin Rumbo, Sunderland (one of my favorite milongas in BsAs)
and Imagen). There could be other milongas in Villa Urquiza where people
dance mostly in open embrace. It is fine as well.

Don't you wish someone would take similar movie of milonga in the fourties
or in the beginning of twentieth century to take a glimpse at how people
danced at the time (not staged movie but documentary)?

Two additional comments:
The guy in the white shirt entering the frame in the last 15 seconds is me.
Throwing your arms in the air is highly unorthodox way to respond to
cabeseo.


Cheers, Oleh K.

https://TangoSpring.com

Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:36:34 -0500
From: el turco <shusheta@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: If picture is worth a thousand of words...

I agree with Oleh about his wishes for documentation of tango from history.
If anyone interested in, there is a documentary " The Mysteries of
Tango" you can find at Zival's for 79 pesos. This 2-DVD set covers
mostly the history of tango muisc and major orchestras. However, you
will see video clips from 40s and 50s, and you will be surprised tosee
how people used to dance. half closed embrace was the most common one,
plus footwork is quite visible. Imagine, there were alot of things to
practice and "inventing moves" in 50s (as Copes explains about his
memories with older tangueros).

Milonguero style was from 50s, it was a fashion for that period of
time among tango dancers. Hence, whoever dances close embrace is
dancing close embrace literally not milongureo style in the real
world-outside BsAs- In BsAs as Pichi mentions still few people dance
like how they danced in their entire life.

Enjoy the diversity in Tango!!!
Burak "el turco" Ozkosem
Minneapolis
www.tangoshusheta.com




On 7/5/05, Oleh Kovalchuke <oleh_k@hotmail.com> wrote:

> ...than a movie can make you a billionaire?
>
> Here is movie clip from milonga at El Beso:
>
> https://www.tangospring.com/tangomovies/ElBesoMilonga.mov
>
> This is how most people dance at most downtown milongas in Buenos Aires. I
> call this style milonguero. Someone might call it grilled cheese on a stick.
> It does not matter really. This is also prevalent style at major milongas in
> Villa Urquiza (Sin Rumbo, Sunderland (one of my favorite milongas in BsAs)
> and Imagen). There could be other milongas in Villa Urquiza where people
> dance mostly in open embrace. It is fine as well.
>
> Don't you wish someone would take similar movie of milonga in the fourties
> or in the beginning of twentieth century to take a glimpse at how people
> danced at the time (not staged movie but documentary)?
>
> Two additional comments:
> The guy in the white shirt entering the frame in the last 15 seconds is me.
> Throwing your arms in the air is highly unorthodox way to respond to
> cabeseo.
>
>
> Cheers, Oleh K.
>
> https://TangoSpring.com
>

Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:35:40 -0700
From: Igor Polk <ipolk@VIRTUAR.COM>
Subject: If picture is worth a thousand of words...

Good clip, nice dancing. In Portland it is the same, and I love it.

It looks, though, like everybody in the room dance very similarly as if they
copy one another. It is definitely a style - closed circuit of people
dancing with each other start to dance in the same way.

Just yesterday I have seen a professionally produced documentary movie shown
at one of the latest BA festivals. On DVD.

It is called something like "Susana de Piel", and copyright year is 2003.
I will know the details a little bit later and give it to you.

It is a documentary about one of the Buenos Aires milongas and its regular
dancers.

All participants are old. Very old.
What a diversity of styles and techniques! What a great dancing!
This is a breathtaking movie telling so much about tango - its technique,
feel, and people dancing it.
This movie is extraordinary.


Igor Polk
PS
And yet it is far from covering all styles..